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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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wizenheimer said:
I remember sometime, probably in the 80's, my buddies and I had a debate about which band, The Rolling Stones or The Who, would do the best rendition of Sugar Sugar. Yeah, we'd been drinking
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Oh c’mon. Metallica hands down……
 
tykendo said:
Yes, even LeBron.
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A lot of the Hard Rock groups i still like are hitting their 70's. Man! when i was in my teens, 70's seemed like total geezers. The well heeled do seem to age better though.
 
Idog1976 said:
oh what does that have to do with dog poop in shoes? And yes I have heard this now that you play it! My dad was born in 43' so there you go!
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My mom too, are you 57 - 60 in age.
 
Chris Craig said:
Blazers get Siakam, Draymond

TOR Gets CJ, DJJ, pick from Portland

GSW gets Simmons, Curry

Philly Gets Wiseman, Wiggins, Kuminga, Moody and a pick from each of the Blazers, Raptors, and Warriors.
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Philly wouldn't give up Simmons & Curry for that package. Also, Wiseman backing up Embiid would have little value to them
If they would though, Warriors would keep Draymond and just give the additional picks to Philly, cutting us out of the deal.
If Toronto was willing to take CJ/DJJ/pick from us for Siakam, we should do that, independent of any other deal.

IMO, more realistic is a framework sending Wiggins/Wiseman to TOR, Siakam here, Simmons to GSW, and CJ/Kuminga/Moody/(PDX)1st to PHI (if Morey moves off his Dame demand).
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Philly wouldn't give up Simmons & Curry for that package. Also, Wiseman backing up Embiid would have little value to them
If they would though, Warriors would keep Draymond and just give the additional picks to Philly, cutting us out of the deal.
If Toronto was willing to take CJ/DJJ/pick from us for Siakam, we should do that, independent of any other deal.

IMO, more realistic is a framework sending Wiggins/Wiseman to TOR, Siakam here, Simmons to GSW, and CJ/Kuminga/Moody/(PDX)1st to PHI (if Morey moves off his Dame demand).
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That seems like a potential, even probable trade.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Philly wouldn't give up Simmons & Curry for that package. Also, Wiseman backing up Embiid would have little value to them
If they would though, Warriors would keep Draymond and just give the additional picks to Philly, cutting us out of the deal.
If Toronto was willing to take CJ/DJJ/pick from us for Siakam, we should do that, independent of any other deal.

IMO, more realistic is a framework sending Wiggins/Wiseman to TOR, Siakam here, Simmons to GSW, and CJ/Kuminga/Moody/(PDX)1st to PHI (if Morey moves off his Dame demand).
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I don't see Golden State giving up all its young assets for Simmons when Simmons and Green are such a poor fit together. If Golden State could somehow swap Green for Simmons, with a small premium on top, I'm sure they'd do that, but since Philadelphia almost certainly wouldn't agree to that, it seems like trying to get Golden State into a Simmons deal wouldn't really work.

I mean, even though Simmons is a much better player in a vacuum than Wiggins, one could reasonably argue that Wiggins is a far better fit for Golden State, since he can shoot in addition to being a versatile defender.
 
Minstrel said:
I don't see Golden State giving up all its young assets for Simmons when Simmons and Green are such a poor fit together. If Golden State could somehow swap Green for Simmons, with a small premium on top, I'm sure they'd do that, but since Philadelphia almost certainly wouldn't agree to that, it seems like trying to get Golden State into a Simmons deal wouldn't really work.

I mean, even though Simmons is a much better player in a vacuum than Wiggins, one could reasonably argue that Wiggins is a far better fit for Golden State, since he can shoot in addition to being a versatile defender.
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I'm simply operating under the assumption that since GSW is pursuing Simmons, they're doing so with the intention of adding him to their core. They could very easily be planning to play him in the Andrew Bogut/Zaza Pachula role (albeit an epanded version), and I don't believe there were any complaints about their fit with Draymond in those championship team lineups.
 
wizenheimer said:
I remember sometime, probably in the 80's, my buddies and I had a debate about which band, The Rolling Stones or The Who, would do the best rendition of Sugar Sugar. Yeah, we'd been drinking
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Stones
 
We have no idea if Simmons really truly wants only CA teams, but IF he does, this puts an end to the discussion for me about this guy. I was already not excited about it and thought he’s a diva before this. Now? Hell no. Give up the bank for a guy who will leave as soon as he can, doesn’t work on his shot, isn’t coach able, and doesn’t want to be here?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm simply operating under the assumption that since GSW is pursuing Simmons, they're doing so with the intention of adding him to their core. They could very easily be planning to play him in the Andrew Bogut/Zaza Pachula role (albeit an epanded version), and I don't believe there were any complaints about their fit with Draymond in those championship team lineups.
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Bogut was at the start of their run, when the Warriors had just barely dusted off the "death lineup" and the rest of the league hadn't caught up to the small ball ethos yet. Zaza coincided with them also having Durant making "fit" a bit less important (and the league still hadn't gone full-on small ball yet like today). I think neither player (in their "Warriors prime") would be a fit for them today in the current league environment.

Also, in both cases, they were guys the Warriors could take off the court for the "closer" lineup. Simmons isn't a minor role-player--they aren't going to trade all their assets outside their core stars for a guy they take off the floor in crunch time.

I think the Warriors "have interest" because they look into any star/superstar that might become available. But they've reportedly already turned down a "Simmons for every young asset you have" deal, so I think it's clear that they don't consider Simmons someone who works well enough with their existing core to do something like that.
 
Minstrel said:
I think the Warriors "have interest" because they look into any star/superstar that might become available. But they've reportedly already turned down a "Simmons for every young asset you have" deal, so I think it's clear that they don't consider Simmons someone who works well enough with their existing core to do something like that.
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To be fair, the deal they turned down also included 2 future firsts. Had it just been Wiggins, Wiseman, 7 & 14, I dont think they would have declined.
 
I think Simmons is good and has unlimited upside. But he doesn’t really fit in with what the Warriors do. His skill set of facilitating is kinda redundant next to Green.

Toronto may make some sense if Siakam is dead set on being traded.

With the Portland option, Morey gets what that team desperately needs which is shooting and a player that can create for himself. I think CJ would fit in nicely there and Morey is a guy that long has prioritized outside shooting over defense.

Simmons wants out. I don’t think he’ll be a Sixer come training camp. Who else is reportedly willing to try and pony up what Morey wants for him? I’ve really heard of no other teams.

I think (hope) it’s just a game of cat and mouse between Morey and Olshey and they both got the offers they are want on the table and are just waiting for one another to cave first.

If Olshey truly believes that we can’t part with CJ for Simmons than he’s an idiot. Simmons is an amazing defender and has a really good feel for the game and I don’t give a rats ass if he can’t hit a jumper. He doesn’t really need to, to have an impact on the game.
 
MickZagger said:
I think Simmons is good and has unlimited upside. But he doesn’t really fit in with what the Warriors do. His skill set of facilitating is kinda redundant next to Green.

Toronto may make some sense if Siakam is dead set on being traded.

With the Portland option, Morey gets what that team desperately needs which is shooting and a player that can create for himself. I think CJ would fit in nicely there and Morey is a guy that long has prioritized outside shooting over defense.

Simmons wants out. I don’t think he’ll be a Sixer come training camp. Who else is reportedly willing to try and pony up what Morey wants for him? I’ve really heard of no other teams.

I think (hope) it’s just a game of cat and mouse between Morey and Olshey and they both got the offers they are want on the table and are just waiting for one another to cave first.

If Olshey truly believes that we can’t part with CJ for Simmons than he’s an idiot. Simmons is an amazing defender and has a really good feel for the game and I don’t give a rats ass if he can’t hit a jumper. He doesn’t really need to, to have an impact on the game.
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I think Neil would pull the trigger on Simmons in a nano second if it involved CJ,picks & some.
Could it be that his agent is trying to convince Morey to send him to one of his teams of preference?
 
MickZagger said:
I think Simmons is good and has unlimited upside. But he doesn’t really fit in with what the Warriors do. His skill set of facilitating is kinda redundant next to Green.

Toronto may make some sense if Siakam is dead set on being traded.

With the Portland option, Morey gets what that team desperately needs which is shooting and a player that can create for himself. I think CJ would fit in nicely there and Morey is a guy that long has prioritized outside shooting over defense.

Simmons wants out. I don’t think he’ll be a Sixer come training camp. Who else is reportedly willing to try and pony up what Morey wants for him? I’ve really heard of no other teams.

I think (hope) it’s just a game of cat and mouse between Morey and Olshey and they both got the offers they are want on the table and are just waiting for one another to cave first.

If Olshey truly believes that we can’t part with CJ for Simmons than he’s an idiot. Simmons is an amazing defender and has a really good feel for the game and I don’t give a rats ass if he can’t hit a jumper. He doesn’t really need to, to have an impact on the game.
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I absolutely agree. I still think it's the trade and will until either Simmons or CJ is moved for someone else, or the summer trading period ends. Which I don't think has a hard and fast date, but seems more like a traditional ending period of around the time Summer League ends? What's the latest a blockbuster takes place before training camp starts anyone know?
 
Idog1976 said:
I absolutely agree. I still think it's the trade and will until either Simmons or CJ is moved for someone else, or the summer trading period ends. Which I don't think has a hard and fast date, but seems more like a traditional ending period of around the time Summer League ends? What's the latest a blockbuster takes place before training camp starts anyone know?
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Trading can happen til the deadline in February
 
Ben Simmons shot better from the free throw line in the 2020/21 playoffs than Lillard did in the gold medal game :dunno: just sayin!
 
Per Golden State: the asking price is ridiculous for Simmons. Not one team in the league would make a deal for him as of now because it’s so out of whack.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Morey really is a trash GM.
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He'll cave before preseason because his coach and number one player have completely alienated and humiliated his number two player. He knows that CJ is the best fit and he'll wait until he has to make a trade to try and get the most assets on top of CJ as he can from Neil. I don't actually think he wants another forward. He needs a perimeter scoring guard and I don't know if there are many perimeter scorers better than CJ out there. Steph, Beal, Dame, Harden, KD and Klay if healthy but given the touches I don't know if there are many better than that. CJ gets buckets and has shown when Dame is out that he can facilitate too.

The trade Morey wants is Dame but if he finds out Dame isn't coming and neither are Steph, Beal, Harden, KD, or Klay... I think he'll go with CJ+
 
CJ to Philly, Simmons to GS and Draymond to Portland?
 
royo said:
CJ to Philly, Simmons to GS and Draymond to Portland?
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At first glance, my thought is I would rather cut GS out of the loop and take Simmons. Draymond would fit in nicely with the Blazers for a couple of years, but I think Simmons is better and younger.

But if GS would be sending other assets to Philly that Portland does not have (or Philly does not want) and it was the only way a deal for a PF gets done, then yes I would roll the dice even if I can't stand Green's crying and flopping. Would we be able to save the 7 million in salary difference too?
 
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