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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?


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lol we have no idea of the true value of Simmons.

Going from talks about Ben for Dame to Ben for Wall has to be a kick in the pants for Sixer fans.

 
lol we have no idea of the true value of Simmons.

Going from talks about Ben for Dame to Ben for Wall has to be a kick in the pants for Sixer fans.



I'm sure Houston would be interested.

I can't imagine any way Philly is interested, makes more sense to have Simmons sit out and get DNP until the trade deadline.
 
lol we have no idea of the true value of Simmons.

Going from talks about Ben for Dame to Ben for Wall has to be a kick in the pants for Sixer fans.


Jesus, if Morey has to settle for taking on Wall, that's a disaster. There better be a FUCKTON of picks involved.
 
Jesus, if Morey has to settle for taking on Wall, that's a disaster. There better be a FUCKTON of picks involved.
Disaster yes, but also hilarious. Sixer fans are right behind LA fans in my disdain. Them thirsting over Dame constantly was really annoying.

Also, there might be some juice to this. Perkins is VERY WELL connected to Klutch.

 
Disaster yes, but also hilarious. Sixer fans are right behind LA fans in my disdain. Them thirsting over Dame constantly was really annoying.

Also, there might be some juice to this. Perkins is VERY WELL connected to Klutch.
But not to Morey, presumably.

The more I think about this the stupider it seems. In order to match salaries the Sixers would have to throw in $11M of salaries, so at minimum it would be Seth Curry, who ALONE is better than Wall.
 
I think they'd have to do something like this but I still don't know how this helps Philly now. They might think they can hold onto the picks until the off season and then flip Wall's contract and the picks for Dame if we're blowing it up.

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But not to Morey, presumably.

The more I think about this the stupider it seems. In order to match salaries the Sixers would have to throw in $11M of salaries, so at minimum it would be Seth Curry, who ALONE is better than Wall.
They only have to throw in ~2.5M more to meet the 125% rule.
 
But not to Morey, presumably.

The more I think about this the stupider it seems. In order to match salaries the Sixers would have to throw in $11M of salaries, so at minimum it would be Seth Curry, who ALONE is better than Wall.
there would have to be a three way possibly, or Gordon going out as well to make the $ work. Not impossible, but difficult.

But moreso from a basketball and team-building standpoint, that is a horrible fit in Philly.

Like this should work in December once Green can be traded:


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there would have to be a three way possibly, or Gordon going out as well to make the $ work. Not impossible, but difficult.

But moreso from a basketball and team-building standpoint, that is a horrible fit in Philly.

Like this should work in December once Green can be traded:


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Yeah, there's no way in Hell Morey does that. He would literally quit first. The only plausible reason for this Wall stuff being leaked is a ploy by Morey to get others who are sitting around waiting for the Simmons price to drop to jump in now.
 
there would have to be a three way possibly, or Gordon going out as well to make the $ work. Not impossible, but difficult.

But moreso from a basketball and team-building standpoint, that is a horrible fit in Philly.

Like this should work in December once Green can be traded:


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Wall for Simmons and Maxie or Thybulle works just fine... you can throw it into any trade simulator or just multiply the Simmons and Maxie contracts by 1.25 and that's greater than the Wall contract. Obviously Houston would have to also send out a shit ton of picks.
 
Wall for Simmons and Maxie or Thybulle works just fine... you can throw it into any trade simulator or just multiply the Simmons and Maxie contracts by 1.25 and that's greater than the Wall contract. Obviously Houston would have to also send out a shit ton of picks.
ya i know but morey would get tarred and feathered if he gave up simmons + maxey for wall.
 
ya i know but morey would get tarred and feathered if he gave up simmons + maxey for wall.
Yeah, I don't know how you sell that as a win now move... even with picks coming in from Houston. Morey is in a tough position because he can't keep Simmons but he has the team that had the best record in the East last season, so he can't take a step back when moving Simmons.
 
Simmons isnt going anywhere soon.
They will fine his ass big time and then his fam will advise him to show up and play.
Morey will set him down and tell him in order for you to get a trade out of Philly you need to come back and play first so I can engineer a trade that good for both. Just my gut feeling.
 
I think they'd have to do something like this but I still don't know how this helps Philly now. They might think they can hold onto the picks until the off season and then flip Wall's contract and the picks for Dame if we're blowing it up.

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I think Philly would want a 3 way with players to win now instead of those picks, but it would be hard as the Wall contract can't be traded and the other 6ers players have value on the court.
 
Simmons isnt going anywhere soon.
They will fine his ass big time and then his fam will advise him to show up and play.
Morey will set him down and tell him in order for you to get a trade out of Philly you need to come back and play first so I can engineer a trade that good for both. Just my gut feeling.

I agree, I think Morey is they type to say fuck it and not flinch in an uncomfortable situation.

By the trade deadline there will be injuries, losing, or something else that makes an all star available and then the 6ers can try to complete a better trade.
 


I guess we'll see how determined he is when it starts costing him money to sit out. H won't be getting any paychecks and, I'm not sure about this, but it may be Philly can fine him too (maybe not as the missed paychecks are the fine)
 

the 76ers motto this season might be 'contortions-r-us'. They have dug a deep hole, then painted themselves into a corner at the bottom of that hole. And it sure looks like Morey seriously over-played his hand while calling the Simmons bluff of sitting out the season. Of course, that might not have been a bluff and then Philly has a giant mess in that corner at the bottom of the hole

as for the Lillard 'news' there, I'd dispute the idea he's been provided the "roster upgrades" he had in mind when he went 'ballistic'. But to me, it seems pretty clear that a big part of his reaction after the Denver series was motivated by that very recent major disappointment to him personally. he thought last year's team was different than previous versions, but the playoffs proved that assumption wrong. He had a masterful series, but got almost no support. But as time has passed, I think his loyal nature and affection for Portland, the city and the team, has pushed out the disappointment and left him somewhat near where he was before the Denver series. Rip City blood running thru his veins

that not to say if this season goes south, badly, he won't be back to that level of disappointment. But he's a long ways from that point right now, IMO

suck it Philly fans

by the way, how do you find all this stuff? Have you got some kind of Blazer-centic search engine that scans the net, the twitterverse, and instagram?
 
I guess we'll see how determined he is when it starts costing him money to sit out. H won't be getting any paychecks and, I'm not sure about this, but it may be Philly can fine him too (maybe not as the missed paychecks are the fine)
Well how his contract is structured, he can very well sit out.

On the first day of the season, 16 million of his 33million per year will be guaranteed and kick in.
 
Well how his contract is structured, he can very well sit out.

On the first day of the season, 16 million of his 33million per year will be guaranteed and kick in.

if he's sitting out, I'd imagine he'd be violating his contract, meaning Philly wouldn't have to honor the terms

I'd wonder though is he could show up late in the pre-season, dress for the first game of the season, then sit out again. Could he collect that 16M then...?
 
back on IG sleuthing....

Nurk liked the Woj update on Simmons on IG for some reason.

Also, Dame's cousin and de facto team chef (he cooks for Simons/et al) posted this...

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What's the over/under on how long it takes Simmons to get his fragile little feelings hurt and turn against the team he gets traded to?
 
if he's sitting out, I'd imagine he'd be violating his contract, meaning Philly wouldn't have to honor the terms

I'd wonder though is he could show up late in the pre-season, dress for the first game of the season, then sit out again. Could he collect that 16M then...?
If I'm reading this right, the fine for missing a game is 1/145 of his salary (for <20 games) and 1/110 for >20 games.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q107
  • If the suspension is less than 20 games, 1/145 of his base compensation.
  • If the suspension is 20 or more games, or an indefinite suspension that lasts at least 20 games, 1/110 of his base compensation.
If this is the case, then Ben would still be able to collect ~25% of his salary even if he sits out the entire year.
 
If I'm reading this right, the fine for missing a game is 1/145 of his salary (for <20 games) and 1/110 for >20 games.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q107
If this is the case, then Ben would still be able to collect ~25% of his salary even if he sits out the entire year.
there's also this....


It's pretty much at the team's discretion whether they'll fine him. I don't think they do. The backlash internally would be too great just to make a point.
 


Sixers are absolutely fucking delusional if they think we would give them Dame after they tried to play Chicken on which Star wants out first. If Olshey is the holdup...well you know my feelings on that. I'd trade any one in a reasonable configuration not named Lillard for Simmons. Meaning no more than two starters or a Starter a young guy and picks.

Interesting all the attention Blazers players have on the Simmons situation. What about CJ and RoCo do either of them follow him? I could see RoCo following him from back in the day. CJ seems interestingly absent from the interactions with Simmons. That's a hopeful sign as in he might know he would be the one being traded rather than some other package. The fact Nurk and Dame's cousin is paying close attention is very, VERY interesting especially given Nurk is a Klutch client and isn't savvy at all about IG because he gives precisely zero fucks.
 
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