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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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THE HCP said:
So I'm going to give you this LAST chance..... YES or NO......Zeller and Nas will be better for us than Melo and Kanter?
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LET'S GO ANALYTICS GUY. Step up. I'm quite sure Nas and Zeller will NOT be in a tight 2 point game with a few minutes left to find out. Or in Zeller's case be healthy enough to play that night at all.
 
THE HCP said:
So I'm going to give you this LAST chance..... YES or NO......Zeller and Nas will be better for us than Melo and Kanter?
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We don't know what Little will provide for the team, yet we do know what Melo brought.

We also don't know what Zeller brings to the game, yet we do know what Kanter brings.


Zeller's RPM was better, albeit marginally, than Kanter. both Kanters ORPM and DRPM were negative....
 
THE HCP said:
LET'S GO ANALYTICS GUY. Step up. I'm quite sure Nas and Zeller will NOT be in a tight 2 point game with a few minutes left to find out. Or in Zeller's case be healthy enough to play that night at all.
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We don't know how Nassir will be at that point. But he's not a starter, nor is Melo. Neither one is someone I'd be hanging my hopes on in a tight 2 point game (esp with Melos crap defense).
 
THE HCP said:
This is what we call, "LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR EXCUSES".
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Melo is gone. His #'s were negative overall, and he was a black hole on offense. Nassir showed a lot last year, and since it's not like if they kept Melo the team would be winning any titles with him, I'm 100% fine with him being gone. And since his defense sucked ass, I'm especially fine with him being gone.
 
I don't understand the Melo/Kanter v Zeller/Nas argument when this roster has Larry Nance Jr. on it. Nance, since he plays the 4 and 5 seems to be a major factor in if we will or won't miss having Enes and Melo. I think that Enes was a rebounding specialist and Zeller is just a better all around ball player and while Nance won't get us the points in bunches that Melo could, I'd rather have Nance in the game. I also hope that Nas has a greater impact on this team's success than DJJ did last season.

What I'm really hoping for is that we have Simmons instead of CJ in the starting lineup and lets say a couple less future draft picks.
 
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THE HCP said:
I don’t think you understand the question sir.
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No, I understood it. I just don't think you understand that it's not just a case of Cog out, Cog in.

Nance is a better defensive player than Melo and Kanter. He's a more willing passer/facilitator than Melo is. Expanding the role for players who are better defensively, and are better for the system, will be better for the team.
 
THE HCP said:
You have to factor in what the replacements did last season to make the deduction( Just looked that word up) that we will be better without them.
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Fair enough. Do you really think Nance is a downgrade?

Seriously my man - your valiant attempts to equate Melo with Kanter in this discussion mystify me.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
Fair enough. Do you really think Nance is a downgrade?

Seriously my man - your valiant attempts to equate Melo with Kanter in this discussion mystify me.
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Nah I think I’m going to love Nance on our squad.
I was simply saying a bunch in here are saying Nas and Zeller will EASILY replace what Melo and Kanter brought us and I don’t see it. we lost an offensive punch off the bench and it wasn’t replaced is all I’ve been saying.
 
I really like what I saw in the short time of Zeller on the court. Does all the little things that help you win games. Nothing against Kanter but I think Zeller will be better for the team
 
Orion Bailey said:
In two seasons 95 games out of 154. An average of 1/3rd of the season missed in two seasons.


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so why on earth did Olshey let Kanter go and opt for an injury-prone replacement? I’m sorry but Kanter appeared to be a great teammate and in team sports, there is such a thing as “chemistry”
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
so why on earth did Olshey let Kanter go and opt for an injury-prone replacement? I’m sorry but Kanter appeared to be a great teammate and in team sports, there is such a thing as “chemistry”
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That chemistry led to a first round exit. Who says Zeller won't provide chemistry?
 
THE HCP said:
I don’t think you understand the question sir.
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The question shouldn't be Zeller or Kanter. It should be Zeller or Hollis-Jefferson. Because Hollis-Jefferson, not Kanter, is who we played at center when the season was on the line. I'll take Zeller (and Nance) over Hollis-Jefferson. Easily.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
so why on earth did Olshey let Kanter go and opt for an injury-prone replacement? I’m sorry but Kanter appeared to be a great teammate and in team sports, there is such a thing as “chemistry”
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i dont disagree with that and if you look at his career three teams have taken him back a second time.

That shows me two things.

he is a great locker room teammate. Team player no doubt. But we knew that from him being here.

It also shows those teams got rid of him a second time. Toronto. Boston. Portland. All trying to contend and all of them felt he is not a fit or wouldn't have let him go twice.

To address your NO question. I think its very likely that NO conferred with Billups and Billups said he wants a defensive backup big.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
That chemistry led to a first round exit. Who says Zeller won't provide chemistry?
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Zeller is out

again

chemistry as in “cheerleader” doesn’t help a team win. Last year when Nurk went out with a broken wrist we had Kanter to keep us in games. Now? Coach wants to use RoCo or Nance as fill-in? Yikes, we’re in trouble before this even gets started.
 


Given that he sold and cleared out his house just last week, this stretches credulity. Maybe Morey and Paul are agreeing to send out that message to bump up trade offers?

 
I guess I'm in the minority



Seems like the solution would be to do what Houston is doing with John Wall...
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Given that he sold and cleared out his house just last week, this stretches credulity. Maybe Morey and Paul are agreeing to send out that message to bump up trade offers?
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how exactly does him showing up, or even playing manage to do that? everyone knows they still want to trade him, and that he still wants out.
 
When Morey used the Rogers Packers reference a month ago I felt they would come to an agreement and look to move him before the deadline. This way it helps both parties improve their position.
 
Well that Simmons camp firm ultimatum to hold out "all season" lasted until 9 days before the regular season.
 
I guess the Sixers will send out a "be nice" notice to fans who come to the game.
 
Well, it looks like Ben's camp blinked first.

It doesn't change the fact that we know what Morey's offer to us was and that Olshey should be able to get Simmons with a counter offer of CJ and like half draft assets requested; likely two picks and a swap or Nas a pick and a swap. Olshey should do that deal and we would be a really good team if Nurk continues to shoot and make those threes.
 
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