Best Jerryd Bayless Comparison?

[MAS RipCity]

Found this poll on iamatrailblazers fan and wanted to see the opinion here:
Who does he remind you of currently?

 

[Natebishop3]

I hate to say it, but he reminds me of a bigger version of this guy (at least his shot does)

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[julius]

I don't see how anything Jerryd does resembles anything Damon ever did.

 

[illmatic99]

A smarter, faster, better Jarrett Jack.

As KP said, "Jarrett Jack on steroids."

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

A bigger Damon is an interesting comparison.

 

[STOMP]

I don't see how anything Jerryd does resembles anything Damon ever did.

don't you remember the excitement of Damon taking it to the rack? The highlight dunks? Living at the FT line? Me either. In defense of the other poster's point, I do see some of the same limitations as far as playmaker mentality with the two... both seem to have more of a scorer's mentality. But come on, barefoot Damon stood about 5'9 while Jerryd is 6'2

My best case comparison for JB is KJ

STOMP

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Best case?

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[Boob-No-More]

It's extremely premature after a few good games, but our backcourt of Bayless and Roy has the potential of being this generation's version of the early 70s Lakers' backcourt of Gale Goodrich and Jerry West. While Goodrich was technically listed as the PG and West the SG, West was the main distributor (like Roy) and Goodrich's primary role was to score (like Bayless).

By that point in his career, Wilt was 5th on the team in FGA/G (at less than 10 FGA/G) and "only" averaged about 15 PPG, but was one of the best defensive centers in the game, led the league in rebounding and FG% (sound like anyone you know?).

Although Roy's production last season, was similar to West's, Bayless still has a long way to go before our backcourt can be considered a modern version of Stumpy and Mr. Clutch (even the nicknames seem to fit).

BNM

 

[alex42083]

The Microwave. Just heats up coming off the bench.

 

[hypnosmurf]

A bigger Damon is an interesting comparison.

Except Bayless has no problem finishing around the basket.

 

[julius]

I like the KJ comparison.

 

[Pinwheel1]

i am hoping for Kevin Johnson.

EDIT: I did not see that you guys already suggested that. I guess we are on the same page.

 

[Luther]

The Microwave. Just heats up coming off the bench.

I like this one the most...KJ had 20 and 10 for a few years and that's not going to happen for Bayless. Francis, I just dont see it. Damon...No. JJack on steroids would still be really extremely annoying to watch.

 

[Natebishop3]

don't you remember the excitement of Damon taking it to the rack? The highlight dunks? Living at the FT line? Me either. In defense of the other poster's point, I do see some of the same limitations as far as playmaker mentality with the two... both seem to have more of a scorer's mentality. But come on, barefoot Damon stood about 5'9 while Jerryd is 6'2

My best case comparison for JB is KJ

STOMP

Notice how I said "a bigger version" and by bigger I mean taller and stronger.

I think the scorers mentality and shooting form are very similar between the two. If Damon were 6'2 and as big as Jerryd, don't you think we would have seen the same dunks? He was just too small to be an efficient scorer around the rack.

 

[Stevenson]

It's extremely premature after a few good games, but our backcourt of Bayless and Roy has the potential of being this generation's version of the early 70s Lakers' backcourt of Gale Goodrich and Jerry West. While Goodrich was technically listed as the PG and West the SG, West was the main distributor (like Roy) and Goodrich's primary role was to score (like Bayless). BNM

That's a pretty good comparison, although I don't recall Jerry being the distributor. He averaged 25 ppg after all. But Gail was a great shooting PG, sort of like bayless might become - IF he learns how to do more than put his head down and drive to the hoop.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Kevin Johnson and Steve Francis would be great best possible comparisons.

He reminds me of Ellis and Billups as well.

Another name I was thinking about is Sam Cassell

 

[maxiep]

Good Lord, if he's Kevin Johnson, then we're set. For those who have forgotten how good he was, here were his stats:

http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=JOHNSKE01

When checking the comparitive players, notice the one that most closely mirrors Johnson.

As an aside, at one point the Suns had KJ, Kidd and Nash on their roster. Unreal.

 

[STOMP]

Notice how I said "a bigger version" and by bigger I mean taller and stronger.

I think the scorers mentality and shooting form are very similar between the two. If Damon were 6'2 and as big as Jerryd, don't you think we would have seen the same dunks? He was just too small to be an efficient scorer around the rack.

how would Damon have played if he was 7'2? Thats only a little less relevant.

I don't think a Damon comparison holds much water. Besides playing below the rim, dude could blow any layup.

STOMP

 

[anonymous gambler]

how would Damon have played if he was 7'2? Thats only a little less relevant.

I don't think a Damon comparison holds much water. Besides playing below the rim, dude could blow any layup.

STOMP

man, if Damon was 7'2", he would almost be as good as HA! Imagine if Ha had been 5'10"?

blows the mind, no?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Another name I was thinking about is Sam Cassell

Presumably not in connection with Bayless, though, right? Because there isn't that much similarity, except perhaps in height. Sam was much craftier, less of an athlete, more of a shooter, liked to post up a lot and about the opposite in temperament and happy-go-luckiness.

Anthony Peeler?
Hollywood Robinson?
A shorter Corey Maggette?
A poor man's Rodney Stuckey?

I think the Steve Francis comparison is pretty apt.

 

[MARIS61]

He's Damon or he's nobody, almost a carbon copy.

I mean that as a sincere compliment, Mighty Mouse was a great player IMO, and I only hope Jerryd can live up to the comparison over time.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That's a pretty good comparison, although I don't recall Jerry being the distributor. He averaged 25 ppg after all. But Gail was a great shooting PG, sort of like bayless might become - IF he learns how to do more than put his head down and drive to the hoop.

West averaged 9.7 APG on that great 71-72 Lakers team (and 9.5 APG the year before and 8.8 APG the year after). He was definitely the main distributor on that team. The offense went through him even though he was the bigger of the two guards and a great scorer himself (like Roy).

Goodrich wasn't s athletic as Bayless (no dunks for Stumpy), but he had that same scorer's mentality, attacked teh defense and got to the FT line (abut 7 FTA/G during his prime). Like Bayless, he was a tweener - too short to guard SGs, but not a "pure" PG. That's why he worked so well paired with Jerry West. It let Goodrich guard smaller PGs on defense, but focus on his own scoring, not running the offense on the other end.

Since Roy is most comfortable with the ball in his hands, I see a similar dynamic developing. Bayless guards the other team's PG, Roy runs the offense and Bayless focuses on his own scoring more than setting up his teammates. It would seem to maximize the talents of both players, while not exposing their weaknesses by forcing them out of their comfort zones.

BNM

 

[Public Defender]

It's hard to imagine how Stoudamire would've played if he'd been a few inches taller - because those few inches made a world of difference. But in terms of the quick first step and fearlessness about shooting, Bayless and Stoudamire share that.

I don't see the Kevin Johnson comparison. KJ could certainly shoot, but he was much more of a pure point guard than Bayless. I mean for four straight seasons, Johnson averaged better than 10 assists. I don't see Bayless' style of play ever leading to that. He's too much of a scorer.

I think the Steve Francis comparison isn't that far off, frankly. He scored like KJ, with close to 20 ppg in his prime, but his assists were more like 5 or 6 a game, than 10 or 11. Francis was also pretty relentless about driving to the rack when he was healthy, same as I'd hope to get from Bayless. On defense, Francis was pretty strong, and therefore hard to post up, and he'd get his share of steals and rebounds (for a PG). If Bayless develops to have Francis's ability (and numbers), and not his attitude, I'd be ecstatic.

 

[Schilly]

He's Damon or he's nobody, almost a carbon copy.

I mean that as a sincere compliment, Mighty Mouse was a great player IMO, and I only hope Jerryd can live up to the comparison over time.

Wow you really don't have a clue do you?

 

[illmatic99]

If Damon was as tall as Jerryd, he would have been a perennial all star.

 

[Schilly]

I don't see much of anything in Jerryds game that reminds me of Damon.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Wow you really don't have a clue do you?

He's trolling. Ignore him. Such idiocy isn't worthy of a response.

BNM

 

[Schilly]

I know and he's also going to complain about a personal attack then bitch about the moral code of the Mods as there is a double standard.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I don't see much of anything in Jerryds game that reminds me of Damon.

Don't waste your time trying to figure this one out. Jerryd Bayless' playing style has more in common with Amare Stoudemire's than Damon Stoudamire's.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

I know and he's also going to complain about a personal attack then bitch about the moral code of the Mods as there is a double standard.

Yep. Troll, troll, troll and then bitch, bitch, bitch. It's gotten rather old and more than predictable.

BNM