Betting Odds Miller/Scoot at #2/#3

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Why would the Blazers trade up if Kup showed his cards that they're picking Miller?
Yeah I would only trade up if there was a great trade for Scoot on draft night, the Hornets take Scoot but tell us they are open to trading his rights for Miller's for a reasonable price.
 
Why would the Blazers trade up if Kup showed his cards that they're picking Miller?
Could be a smoke screen and/or another team may swoop in for 2.
Again, if there is strong desire to get Scoot as he's your path forward, a little insurance to guarantee the selection may be wise?
If they dont care which of the two then just wait for Hornets to select.
 
Could be a smoke screen and/or another team may swoop in for 2.
Again, if there is strong desire to get Scoot as he's your path forward, a little insurance to guarantee the selection may be wise?
If they dont care which of the two then just wait for Hornets to select.

I get that... it just isn't in line with the previous statement about Kup having already tipped his hand.
 
I get that... it just isn't in line with the previous statement about Kup having already tipped his hand.
It would be a prevent move for sure. They could change course at the last minute and if Scoot is the guy Blazers want? opportunity lost.
 
Here are current betonline.ag odds of who is drafted at #2 and #3. I feel like the betting sites are the most accurate predictor as its actually people and the house putting real money on the line. The reports in the media are so many smokescreens, teams, agents, etc with agendas that its very hard to know which if any of those have substance.

6/13 odds betonline.ag
#2 Brandon Miller -225 Scoot +175
#3 Scoot -225 Miller +165 Amen +900

So you have to bet 225 to win $100 that Miller will go #2, or if you bet $100 you will win $44.44. To bet Scoot at #2 you have to bet $100 to win $175. Thus Miller is a significant favorite to be drafted before Scoot at about 4x.

I posted odds about 1 and 2 weeks ago in some other threads, I'll look for those now. I'll aim to update this thread as we get closer to the draft.

Edit - additions to original post;

6/15 odds betonline.ag
#2 Brandon Miller -235 Scoot +140
#3 Scoot -200 Miller +170 Amen +1200
#4 Amen -135 Whitmore +160

Big shift in the odds with Scoot regaining the spot as favorite to go #2

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It would be a prevent move for sure. They could change course at the last minute and if Scoot is the guy Blazers want? opportunity lost.
The betting odds aren't buying that Kup tipped his hand... or maybe your theory a trade for #2 with Portland is in place (I doubt that though).
 
Wow your right, that's a big shift.

I'll update first post.
It's a huge shift because Miller was 2 to 1 to go to Charlotte but Miller is still almost even money to go to Charlotte. It's basically a pick em' Vegas definitely isn't trying very hard to incentivize people to bet on Miller at 2 (remember Vegas wants the betters to be wrong). If they had about faced on this they would really be pushing the odds for Miller at 2, he'd be +200 or +300.

So many bets had to have come in on Scoot at the old odds and the book doesn't seem to be trying to recoup those bets... more like they're just trying to freeze betting.
 
Lets say instead of DDR the Blazers acquire OG for 23 and Ant
No need to thrown in the 23. Toronto tends to ask for the moon for their players and then leak that out, no reason to think thats reality. OG for Ant straight up is more then fair plus with FVV all but gonzo, they have a real need for a lead guard.

STOMP
 
No need to thrown in the 23. Toronto tends to ask for the moon for their players and then leak that out, no reason to think thats reality. OG for Ant straight up is more then fair plus with FVV all but gonzo, they have a real need for a lead guard.

STOMP

Yes! I agree OG for Ant staright up. No need to add #23
 
Odds continue to shift more and more towards Scoot at #2

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It's over FanDuel has Brandon Miller back up to a 2 to 1 favorite to go number 2 to the Hornets and virtually everyone is reporting that is where Charlotte is headed.

We will be on the clock with Scoot on the board. Joe will be under the most pressure he's faced and will have a chance to really work teams against each other who desperately want Scoot. We better come out of Thursday night a lot better.
 
It's over FanDuel has Brandon Miller back up to a 2 to 1 favorite to go number 2 to the Hornets and virtually everyone is reporting that is where Charlotte is headed.

We will be on the clock with Scoot on the board. Joe will be under the most pressure he's faced and will have a chance to really work teams against each other who desperately want Scoot. We better come out of Thursday night a lot better.

What if we just draft scoot and shop him all summer?
 
What are the odds on Will Levis?

Odds on NFL draft picks are reportedly way too volatile due to limited action, and while the NBA draft might get more bettors involved, this seems like a much less useful measuring stick than for lots of other sports events.
 
It seems like the Blazers might be about to make one of those horrible decisions. It may not be as bad as Bowie over Jordan, or Oden over Durant, but it will be added to that list.
I see a lot of people, Blazer Fans, who know Blazer history, cheering it on. Weird.
 
Brandon Miller up to -400 now… pretty much a lock to go #2
I don't want to pull an Aldo (no offense @AldoTrapani ) but I been telling you all that Charlotte loved Miller for the entire pre draft process and that Scoot stuff would blow over. Now watch Adam Silver step to the podium tomorrow and be like, "With the second pick in the 2023 NBA draft the Charlotte Hornets select Scoot Henderson of the GLeage Ignite."
 
Woj says Miller is Charlotte's pick now and we get Scoot.
 
It seems like the Blazers might be about to make one of those horrible decisions. It may not be as bad as Bowie over Jordan, or Oden over Durant, but it will be added to that list.
I see a lot of people, Blazer Fans, who know Blazer history, cheering it on. Weird.

I see a lot of people thinking that what happened in 1984, under different ownership, a different GM, with different players, is somehow related to 2023 draft.

Super weird.
 
I see a lot of people thinking that what happened in 1984, under different ownership, a different GM, with different players, is somehow related to 2023 draft.

Super weird.
You don't think there's a basic "need vs. best player available" assessment that can be made in both cases?
 
You don't think there's a basic "need vs. best player available" assessment that can be made in both cases?

How does that have anything to do with the poster saying Blazer fans are making the same mistake?

The Blazers are getting the leftover guy in the tier this time. The players are different. The fans aren't making the decision. The roster situations are different. And, there are examples of fit selections working out over BPA, as well as the opposite. In fact, the Blazers probably took fit in 84 and Oden was a clear consensus BPA in 07. Just like there are examples of trade up, trading down, and trading out worked out

There is no Blazer jinx or hoax because two drafts, decades apart, didn't work out.
 
I'm leaning they take Miller. Riley knows that lack of length hurt his team against Denver. Miller and Bam could be a tough dual to deal with.
 
Scoot is the most overhyped player coming into the draft....
His agent is doing a fine job.
 

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