OT Black Man In Minnesota Dies After Cop Kneels On His Neck/ Portland Riots (5 Viewers)

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Propagandist said:
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Colleagues,

As a nation and as a City we continue to grieve the recent loss of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, and others in the country and in our community. We acknowledge that Black employees are experiencing a collective grief and trauma coming from a culmination of oppression that is over 400 years old.

We hear and understand that many of our employees, especially our BiPOC (Black, Indigenous and People of Color) employees, are deeply impacted by these recent events and are hurting.

I want to give our employees space to grieve and reflect: 40 hours of bereavement leave as allowed under HRAR (Human Resources Administrative Rules) 6.03.

I am directing managers and supervisors to approve the leave without question.

I am hopeful that other employers in our community will do likewise.

We're witnessing a dramatic shift in our nation, one that is urgently charting the path forward for restorative justice, inclusion and understanding. I feel tremendous responsibility, as well as tremendous privilege, to be a part of this historic movement. Thank you for walking that path with me as we continue to serve the City of Portland.

Sincerely,

Ted
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wizenheimer said:
the point I was making was that the company moving was actually the result of the actions of that cop, not really the protests. There was a direct correlation between events. And whether it's your intention or not, the fact remains that there are vested political interests that want to weld things like that company moving to the protests, ignoring who actually struck the match that started the fire

I also think there are tons of economic decisions being made that were going to be made anyway, and that Covid and the protests are just handy cover and scapegoats for those decisions.
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are you hypothesizing? Did they say they were leaving because of cop brutality?

did they make that decision after floyds death or after thier factory burnt down?

Unkess you have a statement from them saying this,

they stayed after floyds death.

Then their factory burnt down. Then they announced they are leaving.

Flloyds death didn't cause them to make this decision. The burning of their factory did.

i mean with that logic we can just keep passing the buck


I blame God. He created everyone....
 
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Orion Bailey said:
are you hypothesizing? Did they say they were leaving because of cop brutality?

did they make that decision after floyds death or after thier factory burnt down?

Unkess you have a statement from them saying this,

they stayed after floyds death.

Then their factory burnt down. Then they announced they are leaving.

Flloyds death didn't cause them to make this decision. The burning of their factory did.

i mean with that logic we can just keep passing the buck


I blame God. He created everyone....
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I'm not diving down a food-fight rabbit hole with you OB

just remember the chronology. HG posted the article about the company 'leaving' Minny and said "this is what happens when a city allows anarchy"

I pointed out that the same city allowed the cop to kill George Floyd and if you were assigning blame for the factory fire, you could assign it to the latter event before the former one.

besides that, I think the notion that Minneapolis 'allowed' anarchy is kind of loopy. Set aside the definition of anarchy and if it fits. Sometimes, events get out of control. I'm not sure how that the city was supposed to 'not allow' the chaos. Was it suppose to machine gun the crowds from blackhawk helicopters? Maybe have an armored division run thru and crush the "mobs"? How about a tactical nuke? Maybe nothing that drastic....just put more cops out on the streets plus the national guard and kneel on 10,000 necks....that would be cheaper and create less collateral damage; be symbolic too
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not diving down a food-fight rabbit hole with you OB

just remember the chronology. HG posted the article about the company 'leaving' Minny and said "this is what happens when a city allows anarchy"

I pointed out that the same city allowed the cop to kill George Floyd and if you were assigning blame for the factory fire, you could assign it to the latter event before the former one.

besides that, I think the notion that Minneapolis 'allowed' anarchy is kind of loopy. Set aside the definition of anarchy and if it fits. Sometimes, events get out of control. I'm not sure how that the city was supposed to 'not allow' the chaos. Was it suppose to machine gun the crowds from blackhawk helicopters? Maybe have an armored division run thru and crush the "mobs"? How about a tactical nuke? Maybe nothing that drastic....just put more cops out on the streets plus the national guard and kneel on 10,000 necks....that would be cheaper and create less collateral damage; be symbolic too
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"Sometimes events get out of control" "Not sure how the city was to not allow chaos" "machine gun the crowds from blackhawks" talk about loopy. I never said the Minny police caused anarchy, I used city which means more than police.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not diving down a food-fight rabbit hole with you OB

just remember the chronology. HG posted the article about the company 'leaving' Minny and said "this is what happens when a city allows anarchy"

I pointed out that the same city allowed the cop to kill George Floyd and if you were assigning blame for the factory fire, you could assign it to the latter event before the former one.

besides that, I think the notion that Minneapolis 'allowed' anarchy is kind of loopy. Set aside the definition of anarchy and if it fits. Sometimes, events get out of control. I'm not sure how that the city was supposed to 'not allow' the chaos. Was it suppose to machine gun the crowds from blackhawk helicopters? Maybe have an armored division run thru and crush the "mobs"? How about a tactical nuke? Maybe nothing that drastic....just put more cops out on the streets plus the national guard and kneel on 10,000 necks....that would be cheaper and create less collateral damage; be symbolic too
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Did you read the article and what the owner said about it? I'm guessing not, because if you did, you would understand this post doesn't make sense.....
Don't go down the rabbit hole, I don't care, but I'm basing my posts off of what the OWNER said. Not some hypothetical on S2.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not diving down a food-fight rabbit hole with you OB

just remember the chronology. HG posted the article about the company 'leaving' Minny and said "this is what happens when a city allows anarchy"

I pointed out that the same city allowed the cop to kill George Floyd and if you were assigning blame for the factory fire, you could assign it to the latter event before the former one.

besides that, I think the notion that Minneapolis 'allowed' anarchy is kind of loopy. Set aside the definition of anarchy and if it fits. Sometimes, events get out of control. I'm not sure how that the city was supposed to 'not allow' the chaos. Was it suppose to machine gun the crowds from blackhawk helicopters? Maybe have an armored division run thru and crush the "mobs"? How about a tactical nuke? Maybe nothing that drastic....just put more cops out on the streets plus the national guard and kneel on 10,000 necks....that would be cheaper and create less collateral damage; be symbolic too
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Im guessing you missed this from the owner....


Wyrobek said the plant, which usually operates until 11 p.m., shut down about four hours early on the first night of the riots because he wanted to keep his workers out of harm’s way. He said a production supervisor and a maintenance worker who live in the neighborhood became alarmed when fire broke out at the $30 million Midtown Corner affordable housing apartment complex that was under construction next door.


“The fire engine was just sitting there,” Wyrobek said, “but they wouldn’t do anything.”


Two days after the riots began, Gov. Tim Walz described the city’s response as an “abject failure.” Walz ordered the National Guard into Minneapolis to restore order at the request of Mayor Jacob Frey. The violence sometimes overshadowed peaceful protests over the death last month of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police officers.
 
Hoopguru said:
"Sometimes events get out of control" "Not sure how the city was to not allow chaos" "machine gun the crowds from blackhawks" talk about loopy. I never said the Minny police caused anarchy, I used city which means more than police.
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wut?

where was it I dumbed down the debate to be just about the minny police?

the police can't call in the national guard. That's the governor and mayors. You're the one that said the city "allowed" anarchy. Instead of trying to split semantic hairs, why don't you explain how the city could have stopped the chaos that followed George Floyd's death. Seems like the only way would have been a massive presence of national guard and use of overwhelming force, and all of that to occur on the 1st day of protests....and even then, chaos would have followed

but again, none of this would have happened if that fucking cop hadn't kneeled on a neck for 9 minutes
 
wizenheimer said:
wut?

where was it I dumbed down the debate to be just about the minny police?

the police can't call in the national guard. That's the governor and mayors. You're the one that said the city "allowed" anarchy. Instead of trying to split semantic hairs, why don't you explain how the city could have stopped the chaos that followed George Floyd's death. Seems like the only way would have been a massive presence of national guard and use of overwhelming force, and all of that to occur on the 1st day of protests....and even then, chaos would have followed

but again, none of this would have happened if that fucking cop hadn't kneeled on a neck for 9 minutes
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i agree about the murdering cop but what so wro0ng with showing some sympathy for the business owner and his workers. Even he a long term resident that didnt want to move mentioned the city didnt help.
Geez, cant you sometimes try and see someone else's point of view without getting all defensive.
 
Hoopguru said:
i agree about the murdering cop but what so wro0ng with showing some sympathy for the business owner and his workers. Even he a long term resident that didnt want to move mentioned the city didnt help.
Geez, cant you sometimes try and see someone else's point of view without getting all defensive.
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I see your POV...I'm not so fucking dense I can't. As far as sympathy, there is a hell of a lot of people to have sympathy for, and that was the case with just the pandemic going on without the chaos on top of it. Thoughts and prayers don't accomplish much, IMO, but in the interest of forum harmony consider me suitably chastised for an improper allocation of sympathy

and yeah, that guy is entitled to blame who he wants for a choice he says he's making. I'd be curious what city he thinks has handled things better than his own. Seattle? Portland? Oakland? NYC? Buffalo? Atlanta? Sure seems like Minneapolis was not the only city that fell behind in it's response and got caught in the cross-hairs of the crisis. Maybe he'll relocate his business to a community that has few minorities. Maybe he won't relocate his business at all but will do something different. Maybe he'll reconsider and rebuild. I doubt any of us will know what actually happens with this
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
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Trump has waged a war on irony! I hate it! Transport yourself back a few years and imagine...........

THE DEATH OF IRONY
In the beginning, you derived much pleasure from the ironic tweets. You'd smug-smile and think: "This guy is fucking idiot." Can no one else see this?!?

The hundredth time it happened, you might be bemused, and maybe share with a friend. "How is this even possible?" you might ask. "Our president is such a dumbass." But the low-hanging fruit can be kind of disappointing. You don't even have to work for it; it's just there. You reach out grab it and what?

By the trillionth time you are just letting the fruit drop to the ground and rot. It's overwhelming. It's gone from funny to not funny to terrifying. But it's hard to even muster the strength for outrage. You've exhausted the haha part of your brain. It's just a blank stare and a muttering to oneself these days... Your kids will never believe that irony was once entertaining and humorous....

THE END
 
Propagandist said:
By the trillionth time you are just letting the fruit drop to the ground and rot. It's overwhelming. It's gone from funny to not funny to terrifying. But it's hard to even muster the strength for outrage. You've exhausted the haha part of your brain. It's just a blank stare and a muttering to oneself these days... Your kids will never believe that irony was once entertaining and humorous....
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I believe this is what will cause his failure in the upcoming elections. The country is just tired of having to baby-seat the president. People at times do not understand that too much of anything (even if it is a good thing, something I do not blame the Trump administration for - just to be clear) is still too much and people tire of it.

I know the twitter in chief loves to call our next president "sleepy" - but frankly, as any parent that had to deal with the tantrums of a baby knows - sleepy is good.
 
ABM said:
Now, that's a flag I would NEVER honor!! Makes me sick when I see these things flying in people's yards. Good on NASCAR!
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But guess who the people who fly the confederate flag vote for?
 
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