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If you haven't boarded up or gotten armed security at this point, you deserve to be looted.

 
ABM said:
On December 20, 2018, after failing to convince Trump to reconsider his decision to withdraw all American troops from Syria, Mattis announced his resignation effective February 28, 2019. Trump later accelerated the departure date to January 1, stating he had essentially fired him.
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Here, let me help you comprehend. Mattis correct and many lives were lost due to trumpy, but it has absolutely ZERO to do with what Mattis said today, but just like your boy always looking to deflect away from the issue.
 
ABM said:
Doesn't really matter. Carry on.
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CupWizier said:
Here, let me help you comprehend. Mattis correct and many lives were lost due to trumpy, but it has absolutely ZERO to do with what Mattis said today, but just like your boy always looking to deflect away from the issue.
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No chance of butt-hurt opportunity. Got it. They don't call him mad dog for nuthin.
 
Is anyone else surprised that idiot who was the genius behind the press conference "exposing" Elizabeth Warrens "lover" hasn't realized he's missing out on more opportunities to make a complete fool of himself again?

I kind of miss seeing people tweeting him as if he matters.
 
Here is the text of the complete statement. from Atlantic article

In Union There Is Strength
I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.

When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/underlying-conditions/610261/?utm_source=msn

James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...s-are-not-battlespaces/612553/?utm_source=msn

We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.

Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.
 
I guess Floyd tested positive for COVID in April but was an asymptomatic carrier.

 
LA's mayor and city council will be cutting $250million out of LAPD's budget.

So, they will have less training and shittier cops? That ought to work great!

I will enjoy watching LA destroy itself.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
LA's mayor and city council will be cutting $250million out of LAPD's budget.

So, they will have less training and shittier cops? That ought to work great!

I will enjoy watching LA destroy itself.
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How is defunding gonna help anything? Means putting more out of work, less protection on the streets, longer wait times, more violence, more death, less justice.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
The cop who kneeled on the guys neck, he was trained for that? I was listening to a podcast and they were talking about that was an approved restraint tactic and he could use that as part of his defense.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/
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I don't care what they say, you aren't supposed to put your knee on somebody's head. It happens because it works, but that's not SOP, Can't be. In the military we were trained to put a knee into their upper shoulder blade.....it pins them down.
 
THE HCP said:
I don't care what they say, you aren't supposed to put your knee on somebody's head. It happens because it works, but that's not SOP, Can't be. In the military we were trained to put a knee into their upper shoulder blade.....it pins them down.
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If he was trained to do it, even if he deploys it negligently, its a legal escape. They can question when was the last time he received supplemental training.

The way a Minneapolis police officer restrained George Floyd before he died — placing his knee on Floyd's neck while the man lay on his stomach — is widely discredited by law enforcement experts because it can cause suffocation.

But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.

Floyd gasped for air and called for help, but officer Derek Chauvin calmly kept his position for at least eight minutes, including after Floyd stopped speaking or moving. Other officers stood by as bystanders berated them and pleaded for them to check for a pulse.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
LA's mayor and city council will be cutting $250million out of LAPD's budget.

So, they will have less training and shittier cops? That ought to work great!

I will enjoy watching LA destroy itself.
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that doesn't seem to make good policy

however, just about every government is facing massive budget shortfalls right now. I'd need to gauge the cuts to LAPD vs the inevitable cuts across the board. There's simply not enough context to that tweet

I just looked it up and the LAPD budget is about 1.9 billion annually. If that 250M was cut all in one budget cycle (year), that would be a 13% cut. However, projected cuts are often over multiple years, so maybe it's smaller than a 13% cut

but again, the critical context is how much is projected to be cut out of LA's overall budget.
 
They are redistributing it to social programs. I guess its 250 mil total, and 150 from LAPD.

He's funneling this money somewhere. It was weird last month Qatar donated $5million to "The Mayors Fund". There's more than meets the eye
 
Wonderful...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/police-panel-on-looters-quickly-released-under-ny-bail-reform-law

Former members of the New York City Police Department (NYPD) weighed in on the fact that looters arrested in New York City are being quickly released under New York’sbail reform law, telling “Fox & Friends” on Wednesday that the new law is “wonderful” for criminals.

Host Steve Doocy noted that the NYPD arrested more than 700 rioters over the past two days, “but they won’t be staying behind bars for long” because most are being released without bail due to the city’s recent bail reform law.

Doocy asked former NYPD detective Dr. Oscar Odom how many of those people arrested “went out and went back to looting and then wound up getting rearrested?”
“Probably 99.99 percent,” Odom said in response.

Under previous New York law, prosecutors would determine whether to make a bail recommendation or agree to have the defendant released on their own recognizance. The case judge would then make a determination. Defense attorneys would typically make arguments that bail would be inappropriate, or should be set at a low amount, which judges would take into consideration.

Under the new law, courts are now prohibited from setting any monetary bail or keeping defendants in custody before trial in almost every type of misdemeanor case, and for a long list of felonies as well. (CONTINUED..)
 
All these bail reform prosecuters invading major cities.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
How is defunding gonna help anything? Means putting more out of work, less protection on the streets, longer wait times, more violence, more death, less justice.
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Depends on what they're defunding with the police. If they're defunding training programs, that's obviously silly. If they're defunding the purchase of military surplus vehicles and weapons, that's addition by subtraction.
 
THE HCP said:
He better pray his left tackle isn't black!
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you see teammates interact. Im sure some don't like each other other.
Think it could go so far as to pull a longest yard moment?
The whole line takes a dive and lets him get pummeled?

thats crazy! I wouldn't blame them though.
 
Minstrel said:
Depends on what they're defunding with the police. If they're defunding training programs, that's obviously silly. If they're defunding the purchase of military surplus vehicles and weapons, that's addition by subtraction.
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Was gonna say that as well. Maybe that 150 million comes out of the purchase of tanks and military style gear. That's a good thing. Police shouldn't have that shit.
 
Trump knew little about General Mattis (he knows little about anything) but liked the Mad Dog nickname. He thought wrongly Mattis was like him.
 
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