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MARIS61 said:
Anti-cop 'mob' swarms Back the Blue event in Denver, bloodying several before shutting things down: reports
Acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Ken Cuccinelli tweeted, 'These tyrannical, left-wing anarchists hate free speech. If you do not agree with them, they believe you must be beaten down – literally'

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News
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WELCOME TO TRUMP'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

remember, responsibility starts at the top and the top has failed.

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's was bull... and I'm sorry you fell for it.

Black Lives Matter has and is proposing more solutions than just fighting against police brutality.
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Question: Does BLM as a whole have a unified message? In again reviewing the video by Woodson, it appeared that there are many chapters (factions?) nationwide - along with quotes and printed matter from within each chapter. I'm just curious how much control the mother ship has on its various constituents?
 
Ah, 1776. Slavery. The Black man was 3/5 of a man. A husband could legally rape and beat a wife and had total control over her wages and property. Homosexuality was punishable by death. No wonder a Trump supporter wants to return to those days when America was great.
 
ABM said:
Question: Does BLM as a whole have a unified message? In again reviewing the video by Woodson, it appeared that there are many chapters (factions?) nationwide - along with quotes and printed matter from within each chapter. I'm just curious how much control the mother ship has on its various constituents?
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I don't know. I don't speak for BLM nor am I a member. All I can go by is what they've posted on their websites. I do think their crime website does an excellent job of breaking down the problems and proposing answers. And again, not all of those answers I agree with but it does do a better job than most in all of this of creating a base for discussion.

And truly, discussion is what is needed right now by all of us.

Your video doesn't foster that. All that video did was shit on BLM. I'm not sure that is the best tactic. BLM is not going away. I would rather hold them to the standard they set in 2015 and continue that discussion.

I also believe that the average BLM supporter and protester isn't even aware of that website or BLMs nationally stated goals and discussions.

It's time to inform them and inform ourselves so we can all have a more informed discussion and together we can find solutions that benefit all of us but especially the black communities in this country.

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To answer question about the various groups. Again, I don't know. I do think it's similar to the state level republican and democrat parties and their stated goals vs the national party platforms. Do the state platforms speak for the national parties? I would say not.

Does BLM Chicago have the same needs and concerns as BLM Portland? For a variety of reasons I'm guessing not.

Does the dem party of North Dakota have the same platform as the dem party of Oregon? Again, for a variety of reasons I'm guessing not.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I don't know. I don't speak for BLM nor am I a member. All I can go by is what they've posted on their websites. I do think their crime website does an excellent job of breaking down the problems and proposing answers. And again, not all of those answers I agree with but it does do a better job than most in all of this of creating a base for discussion.

And truly, discussion is what is needed right now by all of us.

Your video doesn't foster that. All that video did was shit on BLM. I'm not sure that is the best tactic. BLM is not going away. I would rather hold them to the standard they set in 2015 and continue that discussion.

I also believe that the average BLM supporter and protester isn't even aware of that website or BLMs nationally stated goals and discussions.

It's time to inform them and inform ourselves so we can all have a more informed discussion and together we can find solutions that benefit all of us but especially the black communities in this country.

....

To answer question about the various groups. Again, I don't know. I do think it's similar to the state level republican and democrat parties and their stated goals vs the national party platforms. Do the state platforms speak for the national parties? I would say not.

Does BLM Chicago have the same needs and concerns as BLM Portland? For a variety of reasons I'm guessing not.

Does the dem party of North Dakota have the same platform as the dem party of Oregon? Again, for a variety of reasons I'm guessing not.
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Good comments and I agree that we need to continue to inform ourselves on all sides of the various matters. I do like what Woodson & Co. has to say on most matters, but it certainly doesn't mean he's correct on everything. I'm continuing to research.

As to my question to you, above, I did find this piece, which outlined a couple of things...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-the-alt-right-and-black-lives-matter/538320/

Black Lives Matter

For starters, I don’t think Black Lives Matter belongs in the online conversation about whether Americans should be denouncing violence “on all sides.” The movement’s end of stopping unjust police killings is laudable; and its leaders and the vast majority of its members openly favor nonviolent means. Plus, unlike Nazis, nothing about the future it desires is inseparable from initiating violence. That doesn’t mean it is beyond criticism. It is a large, free-wheeling movement without clear leaders, and individual participants have no doubt acted badly on many occasions, as is true of groups as varied as the Sons of Liberty in 1775, anti-Vietnam War protesters, and the Tea Party. I have criticized Black Lives Matter activists in the past for disrupting a Bernie Sanders event and for the tactic of blocking freeways.

But I draw a distinction between objectionable acts of civil disobedience and engaging in violence. Some Black Lives Matter critics blame the group for the killing of five Dallas police officers. But the gunman acted alone, using tactics that the protest movement never urged or used, and group leaders denounced the killings. The group has the same relationship to the Dallas killer as nonviolent pro-life groups have to the extremist who perpetrated a mass killing at a Planned Parenthood.
 
ABM said:
Nah...

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism
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Look you have your views and I have mine

Trump has rejected democracy. He has expelled the separation of power in government branches, using the senate and SC to exert his will and to do his bidding (Lucky the SC is not having it). But, his subversion of our government for his own gain is indeed a rejection of Democracy.

Trump has emphasized violence for his own gain. He has inspired the rise of violence on the right. He has energized hate groups long held dormant by sanctioning their existence through his vitriol and his rhetoric. He did so because they represent a large chunk of his voting block.

Trump is now using the feds to militarize cities, inciting more violence, again for his own gain.

Trump may be an individualist in that he's a egomaniac, but he does not care about individualism as far as Americans go.

He wants Americans to blindly follow him.

These are just a few examples of how your article does not hold water.
 
This was from awhile back right? I think they busted the kid who kicked him.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Google it, this is actually a good bill.
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it seems to be and it has generally had the support of groups like the Sierra Club and Nature Consevancy

the one concern I've seen is that the bill's language is pretty vague about the definition of "deferred maintenance". That might be a bit of paranoia but the argument I saw was that logging and clear cuts might be stretch into being considered deferred maintenance
 
wizenheimer said:
it seems to be and it has generally had the support of groups like the Sierra Club and Nature Consevancy

the one concern I've seen is that the bill's language is pretty vague about the definition of "deferred maintenance". That might be a bit of paranoia but the argument I saw was that logging and clear cuts might be stretch into being considered deferred maintenance
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the only maintenance the forests needs are a good vacuuming and raking.
 
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