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dviss1 said:
Anything Pro black is racist to white people.

Newsflash: Being Pro black doesn't make you Anti white.

We can't even have a damn superhero without MFs gettin' the're panties twisted.

That said, my son and I are going to see this OPENING DAY. I want there to be PLENTY of white people there to witness black excellence.
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I witnessed a couple times in HS. Andrea Jackson and Precious Washington......mmmmmmmmm
 
Yeah. I am going to see it opening week. Already been listening to the soundtrack on Spotify.... membership has it's benefits!

As for the fervor surrounding it that you've all been talking about.... I'll just go to the movie. :cheers:
 
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HCP said:
So not only are YOU a nerd.... so is your WIFE?? Damn, this is how it spreads!
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dviss1 said:
I'm sure that information was passed down to you from your family firsthand. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Your family probably wrote this.

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/pub...llie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml
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No, it was taught to me in the 4th grade at Forest Hills Elementary School, along with many, many other historical facts about America, Europe, Asia, Africa...

This was back when public schools taught actual history and didn't sugarcoat it. Kids went home and had nightmares about the facts they learned , and never forgot the lessons.

Your link (a race-baiting victimization site) is to a BRITISH West Indies slave seller's "supposed" speech written a lifetime before the United States was created. It has not only been very publicly exposed as an obvious fake, but the actual author who wrote it in 1970 has publicly taken credit for it and explained why he wrote it.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thekeys107/2013/03/06/respect-for-life-featuring-brother-leroy-91

https://rev-elution.blogspot.com/2013/03/durham-resident-is-author-of-willie.html

https://chancellorfiles.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/the-willie-lynch-speech-is-a-fake/
 
Sad they named the hero after an infamous group of murderous, racist thugs.
 
dviss1 said:
The OP said white folk said it was racist and racist black folk don't want whites watching it.

Racism is political. Especially when it's happening systemically and at the highest levels of our government.
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The OP is obviously a black Trump supporter and was criticizing black racist Trump-haters.
 
dviss1 said:
Anything Pro black is racist to white people.

Newsflash: Being Pro black doesn't make you Anti white.

We can't even have a damn superhero without MFs gettin' the're panties twisted.

That said, my son and I are going to see this OPENING DAY. I want there to be PLENTY of white people there to witness black excellence.
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"Anything Pro black is racist to white people."

Perhaps absolutes is not quite the way to state that....but maybe that is what you feel. I would submit that isn't quite correct.
 
Did Marvel suddenly employ a bunch of black screenwriters or is this going to be another preachy, white-guilt lecture for uneducated Millennials written by uneducated white screenwriters? :dunno:
 
julius said:
btw,
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THE ORIGINAL BLACK PANTHERS (REAL AMERICAN WARRIORS)
The 761st Tank Battalion was an independent tank battalion of the United States Army during World War II. The 761st was made up primarily of African-American soldiers, who by federal law were not permitted to serve alongside white troops; the military did not officially desegregate until after World War II. They were known as the "Black Panthers" after their unit's distinctive insignia; their motto was "Come out fighting". The battalion received a Presidential Unit Citation for its actions. In addition, a large number of individual members also received medals, including one Medal of Honor, 11 Silver Stars and about 300 Purple Hearts.[1] They have been called "one of the most effective tank battalions in World War II".[1]

761st Tank Battalion

Active 1942–1946 (segregated unit)
1947–1955 (integrated unit)
Allegiance United States of America
Branch United States Army
Type Separate tank battalion
Nickname(s) Black Panthers
Motto(s) Come Out Fighting
Engagements
World War II

Decorations Presidential Unit Citation
Commanders
Notable
commanders Lt. Col. Paul L. Bates

THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY (REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS)
The Lowndes County Freedom Organization (LCFO), also known as the Black Panther Party, was started in 1965 under the direction of Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) activist Stokely Carmichael. In 1965, Lowndes County in Alabama was 80% black but not a single black citizen was registered to vote. Carmichael arrived in the county to organize a voter registration project and from this came the LCFO. Party members adopted the black panther as their symbol for their independent political organization.

More than half of the African American population in Lowndes County lived below the poverty line. Moreover, white supremacists had a long history of extreme violence towards anyone who attempted to vote or otherwise challenge all-white rule. Lowndes County Freedom Organization members didn’t simply want to vote to place other white candidates in office. Instead they wanted to be able to vote for their own candidates.

THE COMIC HERO (REAL AMERICAN FICTION)
Black Panther is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and writer-artist Jack Kirby, first appearing in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966) in the Silver Age of Comic Books.

THE COPYCAT BLACK PANTHER PARTY (COWARDLY TERRORISTS AND MURDERERS)
The imagery of the Black Panther became so powerful that Stokely Carmichael began to promote it as a symbol for the entire Black Power movement across America, but it wasn't until a pamphlet about voter registration in Alabama reached a young Huey Newton at the UC Berkeley campus that the name began to describe what we know today as the Black Panthers. Basically, he saw the logo, was impressed and inspired by what it stood for and what had been accomplished under its banner, and essentially adopted it for his and Bobby Seale's new group in Oakland.
 
MARIS61 said:
THE ORIGINAL BLACK PANTHERS (REAL AMERICAN WARRIORS)
The 761st Tank Battalion was an independent tank battalion of the United States Army during World War II. The 761st was made up primarily of African-American soldiers, who by federal law were not permitted to serve alongside white troops; the military did not officially desegregate until after World War II. They were known as the "Black Panthers" after their unit's distinctive insignia; their motto was "Come out fighting". The battalion received a Presidential Unit Citation for its actions. In addition, a large number of individual members also received medals, including one Medal of Honor, 11 Silver Stars and about 300 Purple Hearts.[1] They have been called "one of the most effective tank battalions in World War II".[1]

761st Tank Battalion

Active 1942–1946 (segregated unit)
1947–1955 (integrated unit)
Allegiance United States of America
Branch United States Army
Type Separate tank battalion
Nickname(s) Black Panthers
Motto(s) Come Out Fighting
Engagements
World War II

Decorations Presidential Unit Citation
Commanders
Notable
commanders Lt. Col. Paul L. Bates

THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY (REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS)
The Lowndes County Freedom Organization (LCFO), also known as the Black Panther Party, was started in 1965 under the direction of Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) activist Stokely Carmichael. In 1965, Lowndes County in Alabama was 80% black but not a single black citizen was registered to vote. Carmichael arrived in the county to organize a voter registration project and from this came the LCFO. Party members adopted the black panther as their symbol for their independent political organization.

More than half of the African American population in Lowndes County lived below the poverty line. Moreover, white supremacists had a long history of extreme violence towards anyone who attempted to vote or otherwise challenge all-white rule. Lowndes County Freedom Organization members didn’t simply want to vote to place other white candidates in office. Instead they wanted to be able to vote for their own candidates.

THE COMIC HERO (REAL AMERICAN FICTION)
Black Panther is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and writer-artist Jack Kirby, first appearing in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966) in the Silver Age of Comic Books.

THE COPYCAT BLACK PANTHER PARTY (COWARDLY TERRORISTS AND MURDERERS)
The imagery of the Black Panther became so powerful that Stokely Carmichael began to promote it as a symbol for the entire Black Power movement across America, but it wasn't until a pamphlet about voter registration in Alabama reached a young Huey Newton at the UC Berkeley campus that the name began to describe what we know today as the Black Panthers. Basically, he saw the logo, was impressed and inspired by what it stood for and what had been accomplished under its banner, and essentially adopted it for his and Bobby Seale's new group in Oakland.
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MARIS61 said:
Sad they named the hero after an infamous group of murderous, racist thugs.
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TBpup said:
"Anything Pro black is racist to white people."

Perhaps absolutes is not quite the way to state that....but maybe that is what you feel. I would submit that isn't quite correct.
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Ok, ask your white friends off of the top of their heads what they think about The Black Panther Party or Malcolm X.

I guarantee you they have a negative view. Hell I'll bet you do. They were pro black. They weren't racist at all. They simply wanted equality and to teach an oppressed people to stand up to their oppressors and become self sufficient. You probably won't say one word about their food and jobs programs...

Until I see white people consistently calling it out instead of using the privilege of standing idly by, I'll say WTF I want.

Instead of getting butthurt at me calling it out, get butthurt at the majority of white people doing it.
 
MARIS61 said:
THE ORIGINAL BLACK PANTHERS (REAL AMERICAN WARRIORS)
The 761st Tank Battalion was an independent tank battalion of the United States Army during World War II. The 761st was made up primarily of African-American soldiers, who by federal law were not permitted to serve alongside white troops; the military did not officially desegregate until after World War II. They were known as the "Black Panthers" after their unit's distinctive insignia; their motto was "Come out fighting". The battalion received a Presidential Unit Citation for its actions. In addition, a large number of individual members also received medals, including one Medal of Honor, 11 Silver Stars and about 300 Purple Hearts.[1] They have been called "one of the most effective tank battalions in World War II".[1]

761st Tank Battalion

Active 1942–1946 (segregated unit)
1947–1955 (integrated unit)
Allegiance United States of America
Branch United States Army
Type Separate tank battalion
Nickname(s) Black Panthers
Motto(s) Come Out Fighting
Engagements
World War II

Decorations Presidential Unit Citation
Commanders
Notable
commanders Lt. Col. Paul L. Bates

THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY (REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS)
The Lowndes County Freedom Organization (LCFO), also known as the Black Panther Party, was started in 1965 under the direction of Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) activist Stokely Carmichael. In 1965, Lowndes County in Alabama was 80% black but not a single black citizen was registered to vote. Carmichael arrived in the county to organize a voter registration project and from this came the LCFO. Party members adopted the black panther as their symbol for their independent political organization.

More than half of the African American population in Lowndes County lived below the poverty line. Moreover, white supremacists had a long history of extreme violence towards anyone who attempted to vote or otherwise challenge all-white rule. Lowndes County Freedom Organization members didn’t simply want to vote to place other white candidates in office. Instead they wanted to be able to vote for their own candidates.

THE COMIC HERO (REAL AMERICAN FICTION)
Black Panther is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by writer-editor Stan Lee and writer-artist Jack Kirby, first appearing in Fantastic Four #52 (July 1966) in the Silver Age of Comic Books.

THE COPYCAT BLACK PANTHER PARTY (COWARDLY TERRORISTS AND MURDERERS)
The imagery of the Black Panther became so powerful that Stokely Carmichael began to promote it as a symbol for the entire Black Power movement across America, but it wasn't until a pamphlet about voter registration in Alabama reached a young Huey Newton at the UC Berkeley campus that the name began to describe what we know today as the Black Panthers. Basically, he saw the logo, was impressed and inspired by what it stood for and what had been accomplished under its banner, and essentially adopted it for his and Bobby Seale's new group in Oakland.
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None of what you said disagrees with what I posted. The "Black Panthers" from WW2, is not the same group (I suspect thats why you posted that), as the Black Panthers of the mid to late 60's, nor did it refute my comment that their name coined as the "Black Panthers" until after the comic book character.

Go have another beer.
 
dviss1 said:
Ok, ask your white friends off of the top of their heads what they think about The Black Panther Party or Malcolm X.

I guarantee you they have a negative view. Hell I'll bet you do. They were pro black. They weren't racist at all. They simply wanted equality and to teach an oppressed people to stand up to their oppressors and become self sufficient. You probably won't say one word about their food and jobs programs...

Until I see white people consistently calling it out instead of using the privilege of standing idly by, I'll say WTF I want.

Instead of getting butthurt at me calling it out, get butthurt at the majority of white people doing it.
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If people have a negative perception of the Black Panther Party or Malcolm X, I'd submit it's more likely because the information of which they're aware paints those two in a negative (read: violent) light, rather than simply because they're pro-black. Now, please note that I'm not saying that the Black Panthers are violent, but simply that a connotation of violence has been associated with that party. This is an important distinction. As a contrast, the NAACP and the UNCF are both pro-black, and I'd wager that the vast majority of white people (note, I don't say all) view them as positive, because there hasn't been a negative connotation associated with those organizations.

Now, this is not to say that there aren't some white people who do see anything pro-black as racist--surely there are--but it's not because they're white people, but because they're racists. If you said "Anything pro-black is racist to racist white people, " then I doubt you'd get much push back in here on that statement.
 
dviss1 said:
Ok, ask your white friends off of the top of their heads what they think about The Black Panther Party or Malcolm X.

I guarantee you they have a negative view. Hell I'll bet you do. They were pro black. They weren't racist at all.
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Where the fuck did you "learn" the history of the Black Panther Party?

Besides being self-serving criminals and murderers, they were the epitomy of racism, and openly proud of it.
 
Being Pro Black is the same as being Pro White.

100% racist.
 
MARIS61 said:
Where the fuck did you "learn" the history of the Black Panther Party?

Besides being self-serving criminals and murderers, they were the epitomy of racism, and openly proud of it.
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Most of which were self defense against racist police that you sympathize with.
 
dviss1 said:
Most of which were self defense against racist police that you sympathize with.
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Fake, revisionist history.

BP openly threatened to "kill all white people", then proceeded to kill white people.

BP was created by career criminals who continued committing violent crimes for personal gain while using the BP's supposed cause as a cover/defense.

Despicable lowlifes who used and betrayed their race.

For you to put them on a pedestal would be akin to me raising up the KKK.

Birds of a feather.
 
dviss1 said:
Most of which were self defense against racist police that you sympathize with.
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I have never sympathized with any racist police.

I am not even sure police are a necessary part of society, as long as The Second Amendment is observed and protected.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
And out of all of the young actors on The Wire, Wallace was the last one I would have guessed to have a huge career.
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Wallace was one of the only decent parts of this garbage.

The Wakandans are the equivalents to the rich people in Elysium. I bet most people haven't seen Elysium but the rich create a space station city of mansions, they have modern tech that can save lives but they leave all the poor people to suffer on overpopulated and polluted Earth.

Also the modern technology the Wakandans possess and how advanced they are doesn't stop them from having a fight to the death (unless you yield) to be King. Oh and let's have a bunch of black guys grunt or bark or make gorilla noises at a white guy and then tell him to shut up.

I don't think this movie has any real political statement to make, I think it was thrown together and a sprinkle of political ideas was thrown in for flavor.

If I didn't already hear the name of the guy that directed this garbage movie I'd have guessed it was Zack Snyder at his absolute worst.

Because it LOOKED BEAUTIFUL and was all flash and NO substance. That's Zack Snyder in every way.
 
Also, I'm still happy for all the little black kids that finally got something made for them. Considering how much money this junk made they'll want to keep making stuff for them. Hopefully they'll make something good once in a while.
 
You watched it?

I was told, white people can't watch it.
 
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