Blake Griffin or Kevin Love

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Then you trade Valancuinas at the trade deadline once Nurk is back.

Who you recommend as the backup C then? Meyers?...

Well, Do they think they have anything with Skal? If they do I'd rather develop him than bring on someone. I think their main need is forwards.
Zach / Meyers and Scal aren't exactly my ideal centers but they could probably suffice for a while... Can they keep Hood and start him at the 3?
If were talking back up bigs, Jonas does fit the cheap tag, so I guess there's that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

As much as I'd like to see a massive PF upgrade like Griffin, I also would like to see what we have in Collins and Skal. Not necessarily mutually exclusive, I know...

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Blake over Kevin. Easy choice.

 

[illmatic99]

As much as I'd like to see a massive PF upgrade like Griffin, I also would like to see what we have in Collins and Skal. Not necessarily mutually exclusive, I know...

Would you trade Zach as the primary piece for Blake?

 

[calvin natt]

Would you trade Zach as the primary piece for Blake?

No. I think whenever it clicks for Zach, its going to click in a big way. And he's so young.

 

[calvin natt]

Their contracts are just too enormous.

 

[Hey]

And what indication do you have that Detroit is looking to dump Griifin? I don;t see him as being cheapo as they traded away Harris, Bradley, Marjonovic along with a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

It was a big gamble taken by Stan Van Gundy to turn the Pistons into a contender that did not come close to working because Drummond has plateaued/regressed and Reggie Jackson is their best playmaker. They cannot run it back and realistically hope for better results than another first round exit at best. If they're smart, they should move him to shed the long, big contract and acquire young pieces.

 

[dviss1]

"Our" Lol.

 

[dviss1]

Which is the only reason he could possibly be had for cheap. You don't want us take a risk?

I've been completely on board with not getting Griffin.

Especially if it costs us Zach Collins.

 

[dviss1]

Blake over Kevin. Easy choice.

Both are injury prone.

 

[CupWizier]

It was a big gamble taken by Stan Van Gundy to turn the Pistons into a contender that did not come close to working because Drummond has plateaued/regressed and Reggie Jackson is their best playmaker. They cannot run it back and realistically hope for better results than another first round exit at best. If they're smart, they should move him to shed the long, big contract and acquire young pieces.

and if they do, I would expect it to cost a pretty penny along with having to carry his 35 mil contract. They might decide to dump Drummond and build around Griffin as athleticism is becoming more of the norm with many teams using small ball lineups.

 

[Minstrel]

Would you trade Zach as the primary piece for Blake?

I would. Collins has potential, but I don't see future star in him. This forum has been talking about how badly Lillard needs his own Draymond Green in the short roll after a screen? Griffin is that guy, at least among potentially attainable players. Griffin is a talented play-maker and passer, he'd make an incredible pick-and-roll partner. Plus he can shoot. He's more well-rounded than Green on offense, but obviously not nearly as good as Green on defense.

If you want this core to succeed, within Lillard's prime, they need to take a chance on a talented player who fits as well as Griffin does and hope injuries don't happen at the worst time.

 

[illmatic99]

I would. Collins has potential, but I don't see future star in him. This forum has been talking about how badly Lillard needs his own Draymond Green in the short roll after a screen? Griffin is that guy, at least among attainable players. Griffin is a talented play-maker and passer, he'd make an incredible pick-and-roll partner. Plus he can shoot. He's more well-rounded than Green on offense, but obviously not nearly as good as Green on defense.

If you want this core to succeed, within Lillard's prime, they need to take a chance on a talented player who fits as well as Griffin does and hope injuries don't happen at the worst time.

100% agreed. Verbatim what I said on the previous page. I think it's a no-brainer if Detroit wants to shed salary. Blake is a massive risk, but one worth taking to get this team to a higher level.

 

[CupWizier]

I would. Collins has potential, but I don't see future star in him. This forum has been talking about how badly Lillard needs his own Draymond Green in the short roll after a screen? Griffin is that guy, at least among potentially attainable players. Griffin is a talented play-maker and passer, he'd make an incredible pick-and-roll partner. Plus he can shoot. He's more well-rounded than Green on offense, but obviously not nearly as good as Green on defense.

If you want this core to succeed, within Lillard's prime, they need to take a chance on a talented player who fits as well as Griffin does and hope injuries don't happen at the worst time.

Unless someone has some inside info on what Pistons would consider it's all a moot point. Do you how many players I have seen discussed in this forum to the point of you would think the player was actually on the team and nothing ever happens. I put the Blake Griffin possibility in the pipe dream category, but then again, you never know but I just don't see it happening

 

[hoopsjock]

Unless someone has some inside info on what Pistons would consider it's all a moot point. Do you how many players I have seen discussed in this forum to the point of you would think the player was actually on the team and nothing ever happens. I put the Blake Griffin possibility in the pipe dream category, but then again, you never know but I just don't see it happening

Yeah exactly! Why would anyone assume that a team that went 41-41, barely made the playoffs in the East on the last day, and got destroyed in the playoffs be interested in trading any of their players?

 

[hoopsjock]

After watching this series, I don't think anyone can deny that having the ability to run our offense through Griffin in the high post would take an immense amount of pressure off of our guards. We might be up 3-0 in this series if we had Griffin.

That being said, I do understand the injury concern. If he isn't available to play it doesn't help us.

 

[CupWizier]

Yeah exactly! Why would anyone assume that a team that went 41-41, barely made the playoffs in the East on the last day, and got destroyed in the playoffs be interested in trading any of their players?

Look hoopsjock, why are you always trying to start something with me. Let's discuss basketball and save the sniping. Please show me where I said they weren't interested in trading ANY of their players. In fact, in one of my posts I stated that I felt they would possibly be more interested in dealing Drummond. I await your link to my post where I stated what you are claiming.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yeah exactly! Why would anyone assume that a team that went 41-41, barely made the playoffs in the East on the last day, and got destroyed in the playoffs be interested in trading any of their players?

So absolutely don't talk about it. Don't discuss it. However real or unreal it is. It doesn't fit some peoples reality, so you better not discuss it!!!


Since I find this to be a moot point, everyone should discuss something else!!!!

 

[hoopsjock]

Look hoopsjock, why are you always trying to start something with me. Let's discuss basketball and save the sniping. Please show me where I said they weren't interested in trading ANY of their players. In fact, in one of my posts I stated that I felt they would possibly be more interested in dealing Drummond. I await your link to my post where I stated what you are claiming.

Huh, can you please show me where I claimed to say you said that? You're making stuff up.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Huh, can you please show me where I claimed to say you said that? You're making stuff up.

again...

 

[CupWizier]

Huh, can you please show me where I claimed to say you said that? You're making stuff up.

Oh, so you mistakenly posted that to me and I wasn't suppose to believe your sarcasm? Okay, no problem then.

 

[hoopsjock]

Oh, so you mistakenly posted that to me and I wasn't suppose to believe your sarcasm? Okay, no problem then.

Replying to someone's post isn't the same as claiming they said something.

 

[CupWizier]

Replying to someone's post isn't the same as claiming they said something.

Oh, thanks for the clarification. It is just a bit odd that you responded to my post after i said that Griffin isn't likely available Probably should have just made the post without quoting another poster.

 

[Labinot41]

Back to Basketball please, my oppinion: i don't see the Pistons being interested in dealing Griffin, they had a new Arena and the only reason why they made that trade was to bring a Star player in a boring ass Town, they are not stupid in Detroit, of course they knew even with Griffin they have no chance against the top Teams in the east. It's all about to have an Superstar who attracts many fans. I doubt their owner agrees to trade their Superstar for Collins, a bunch of role players and picks, i dont see that happening. But hey it's the NBA and you never know? Who would have thought the Kings trade Cousins for Hield and picks? Or the Pacers trade Paul George for Oladipo and Sabonis? You never know

 

[hoopsjock]

Back to Basketball please, my oppinion: i don't see the Pistons being interested in dealing Griffin, they had a new Arena and the only reason why they made that trade was to bring a Star player in a boring ass Town, they are not stupid in Detroit, of course they knew even with Griffin they have no chance against the top Teams in the east. It's all about to have an Superstar who attracts many fans. I doubt their owner agrees to trade their Superstar for Collins, a bunch of role players and picks, i dont see that happening. But hey it's the NBA and you never know? Who would have thought the Kings trade Cousins for Hield and picks? Or the Pacers trade Paul George for Oladipo and Sabonis? You never know

I always find this to be kind of a weird argument that they need a "star" to fill seats. Sure, it makes sense that you'd want to have a player that fans are interested in seeing but at the same time if the team isn't good with that star then I don't know if it really matters that much. If you were a Detroit fan would you rather watch Griffin or would you rather accumulate picks and young players and watch them develop? If they found a way to keep Griffin and Drummond while adding more dynamic guards and wings then they still have a chance of being good. Imagine if they took Donovan Mitchell instead of Luke Kennard in 2017.

I was told that at the trade deadline last year their GM and front office guys went to the owner to discuss starting the rebuild. The owner was in win now mode and refuses to relent on that stance. I do wonder how watching his team barely make the playoffs and then get throttled when they got there could effect that stance by the owner though. Eventually he will probably have to change that mentality, I just don't know if he will this summer or not.

 

[hoopsjock]

Oh, thanks for the clarification. It is just a bit odd that you responded to my post after i said that Griffin isn't likely available Probably should have just made the post without quoting another poster.

Nah, I quoted it for a reason.

 

[LayneStaley]

Shit I feel comfortable starting Zach next season, even without Nurk for half the year. What I don’t feel comfortable with is having a jack of all trades set of Starting Forwards who do nothing exceptional, especially shooting. I wonder if this series would be different if Mirotic was shooting all those wide open 3s Dame is getting for Chief? I know hindsight is 20/20, I just don’t think this team can go any further with Chief and Hark making up 2/5 of the starters.

 

[Labinot41]

I always find this to be kind of a weird argument that they need a "star" to fill seats. Sure, it makes sense that you'd want to have a player that fans are interested in seeing but at the same time if the team isn't good with that star then I don't know if it really matters that much. If you were a Detroit fan would you rather watch Griffin or would you rather accumulate picks and young players and watch them develop? If they found a way to keep Griffin and Drummond while adding more dynamic guards and wings then they still have a chance of being good. Imagine if they took Donovan Mitchell instead of Luke Kennard in 2017.

I was told that at the trade deadline last year their GM and front office guys went to the owner to discuss starting the rebuild. The owner was in win now mode and refuses to relent on that stance. I do wonder how watching his team barely make the playoffs and then get throttled when they got there could effect that stance by the owner though. Eventually he will probably have to change that mentality, I just don't know if he will this summer or not.

Wow really? Who told you that? That fucking owner should look at the reality and give us blake for a fair package haha

 

[Labinot41]

Shit I feel comfortable starting Zach next season, even without Nurk for half the year. What I don’t feel comfortable with is having a jack of all trades set of Starting Forwards who do nothing exceptional, especially shooting. I wonder if this series would be different if Mirotic was shooting all those wide open 3s Dame is getting for Chief? I know hindsight is 20/20, I just don’t think this team can go any further with Chief and Hark making up 2/5 of the starters.

The funny thing is, Aminu has shot only 5 3s this series (of course he only made 1 because he is Aminu), thats not really a high Volume, it's just like he isn't on the court when he's on the court. Most useless player you can ever imagine

 

[hoopsjock]

Wow really? Who told you that? That fucking owner should look at the reality and give us blake for a fair package haha

I know someone with inside information. A lot of owners are like that though. Paul Allen was too.