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So that's what defense boils down to?

I will say with the pace we play that is indeed impressive, but it's not that cut and dry.
 
Here are the key defensive stats... http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/team-stat/scoring-defense

1st NBA Team Opponent Points per Game
2nd NBA Team Opponent Average Scoring Margin
3rd NBA Team Defensive Efficiency
2nd NBA Team Opponent Shooting %
2nd NBA Team Opponent Effective Field Goal %
1st NBA Team Opponent Three Point %
3rd NBA Team Opponent Two Point %
2nd NBA Team Opponent True Shooting %
1st NBA Team Opponent Non-blocked 2 Pt %
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I wasn't disagreeing, but defense is much more than points allowed.
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True, which is why I posted all the major defensive ranks, which all are top 3. I'd say we are arguably the best defensive team in the league right now. That's insane bro!
 
magnifier661 said:
True, which is why I posted all the major defensive ranks, which all are top 3. I'd say we are arguably the best defensive team in the league right now. That's insane bro!
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If that's the case then we are 1a and the Dubs are 1b.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
If that's the case then we are 1a and the Dubs are 1b.
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I agree. Golden State is a bad ass team. I really, really, really hope that we meet in the WCF! That would probably be the most exciting 7 game series in a long while
 
magnifier661 said:
I agree. Golden State is a bad ass team. I really, really, really hope that we meet in the WCF! That would probably be the most exciting 7 game series in a long while
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How can a series be more exciting than last years series vs houston though.

Buzzer beaters in 7 games instead of what, 2/6?
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
How can a series be more exciting than last years series vs houston though.
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That was pretty exciting too, but I think the stakes are higher. The Splash Bros vs. The RainBroz. Aldridge vs. Lee, Batum (jack of all trades) vs Iggy (Jack of All trades) and Lopez vs. The Asshole Aussie. We are pretty much ditto copies of each other. It would be fun to watch
 
I really want to blow out GS and settle this King of the Mountain thing once and for all
 
Honestly, I think we'd sweep GS or maybe win in 5 games. Lillard/Wes can at least play Curry/Klay even but they have NO answer for Aldridge. He'll have 40+ point games against them just like he did vs Houston. Green can't stop him, Speights can't stop him, and Bogut is too slow. Yes, we lost to the Warriors earlier this season but Nic called a timeout and the refs didn't blow their whistle. They blow the whistle and we win the game. If that happened in the playoffs, then we lose that one game and win the series in 5.
 
magnifier661 said:
That was pretty exciting too, but I think the stakes are higher. The Splash Bros vs. The RainBroz. Aldridge vs. Lee, Batum (jack of all trades) vs Iggy (Jack of All trades) and Lopez vs. The Asshole Aussie. We are pretty much ditto copies of each other. It would be fun to watch
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lol
 
It's a damn shame that we don't play GSW again until March 24th. But it is in Portland and if both teams are still playing well it will probably be pretty hyped.
 
This is all debatable because I've been told by many, that I have the best D!
 
Yes but from the link I've provided, blazers hold more 1sts in the defensive categories. They are no worse than 2nd in each one. GS are third in some of these defensive categories
 
According to this website we have the 2nd best defense.

http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/league-efficiency-pace-summary-stats-2014-2015

PPG is not a reliable measure of defense because of pace.

Points per possession is the way to go to measure offensive or defensive efficiency, but you have to make sure "possession" means major possession, not minor possession.

If you have the ball, miss a shot, get the rebound, and score, that was one major possession but two minor possessions. You want to use major possessions when measuring team efficiency. To illustrate why, suppose a team holds opponents to 30% shooting but can't get a defensive rebound at all. Defensive efficiency per minor possession will be great because of the low FG% but defensive efficiency per major possession will be terrible because they can't get a defensive rebound. Obviously, the latter measure is the correct one, because in fact they can't stop the opponent from scoring.

Most websites that have "points per possession" don't tell you if that means major or minor possessions. The website I linked above doesn't tell you either, but because each teams offensive and defensive possessions are almost identical, I'm pretty sure those are major possessions. In a given game, offensive and defensive major possessions alternate, so they are identical except for when a team possessed the ball at both start and end of quarter.
 
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bobf said:
According to this website we have the 2nd best defense.

http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/league-efficiency-pace-summary-stats-2014-2015

PPG is not a reliable measure of defense because of pace.

Points per possession is the way to go to measure offensive or defensive efficiency, but you have to make sure "possession" means major possession, not minor possession.

If you have the ball, miss a shot, get the rebound, and score, that was one major possession but two minor possessions. You want to use major possessions when measuring team efficiency. To illustrate why, suppose a team holds opponents to 30% shooting but can't get a defensive rebound at all. Obviously, their defense is terrible because opponents will keeping getting offensive rebounds till they score. Defensive efficiency per minor possession will be great. Defense per major possession will be awful. The latter is the the right measure because in fact, the opponent always scores.

Most websites that have "points per possession" don't tell you if that means major or minor possessions. The website I linked above doesn't tell you either, but because each teams offensive and defensive possessions are almost identical, I'm pretty sure those are major possessions. In a given game, offensive and defensive major possessions alternate, so they are identical except for when a team possessed the ball at both start and end of quarter.
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Good points! OppFG% is still my preferred measure for defense because it takes out the FTs that are shot at the end of close games when one team purposely puts the other at the line trying trade 2 points for 3 and stop the clock. All it measures is a team's ability to force misses by the opposing team.
PPG is a very overrated and sometimes misleading stat.
 
blue9 said:
Good points! OppFG% is still my preferred measure for defense because it takes out the FTs that are shot at the end of close games when one team purposely puts the other at the line trying trade 2 points for 3 and stop the clock. All it measures is a team's ability to force misses by the opposing team.
PPG is a very overrated and sometimes misleading stat.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/team-comparison-per-game/sort/fieldGoalPctOpponent

And we are 2nd in that as well. It really is shocking in how much our defense has improved. And deceiving, I wonder how many other teams or beat riders know that until they look at the stats
 
blue9 said:
Good points! OppFG% is still my preferred measure for defense because it takes out the FTs that are shot at the end of close games when one team purposely puts the other at the line trying trade 2 points for 3 and stop the clock. All it measures is a team's ability to force misses by the opposing team.
PPG is a very overrated and sometimes misleading stat.
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That's a good point about FT's in close games. Those should somehow be taken out.

But using only Opp FG% misses many important factors:
- a team may give up lots of 3's. lower fg% but higher efg%
- a team may foul too much in the process of holding opp fg% down
- a team may cause lots of turnovers
- a team may have great or terrible defensive rebounding
 
bobf said:
That's a good point about FT's in close games. Those should somehow be taken out.

But using only Opp FG% misses many important factors:
- a team may give up lots of 3's. lower fg% but higher efg%
- a team may foul too much in the process of holding opp fg% down
- a team may cause lots of turnovers
- a team may have great or terrible defensive rebounding
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All good points, again. And perfectly illustrates that no single stat can be used to fully explain how well/poorly a team/player performs. Still, when doing a quick & dirty review my first stop is OppFG%, followed by OppeFG%, and then if I want more info I start looking into FTA, Rebounding, Points in Paint, etc.
 
Boise Blazer said:
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/team-comparison-per-game/sort/fieldGoalPctOpponent

And we are 2nd in that as well. It really is shocking in how much our defense has improved. And deceiving, I wonder how many other teams or beat riders know that until they look at the stats
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Yes, it's really amazing, especially when you look at our individual players and where we were just a year ago. Individually our players seem mostly not great defenders. Dame has improved drastically from last year, but I attribute our success to playing defense as a team.
 
blue9 said:
All good points, again. And perfectly illustrates that no single stat can be used to fully explain how well/poorly a team/player performs. Still, when doing a quick & dirty review my first stop is OppFG%, followed by OppeFG%, and then if I want more info I start looking into FTA, Rebounding, Points in Paint, etc.
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Well we are first in OppeFG%, 2nd in FG%, 1st in OPP3PT%
 
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