Blazers End Partnership with Military Contractor Leupold & Stevens

[borim69]

If you pay attention to all the training you receive you don’t need a scope. Snipers cheat and use em though.

Yeah but at 1200 meters having a scope is nice

 

[borim69]

On a side note England is considering banning "pointy" kitchen knives saying they are obsolete and have no use.

 

[mook]

They do not make firearms. They have never made firearms of any kind.

I accidentally left a word out. Meant to say "hunting rifle scopes." I've got 2 rifles with Leopold scopes on them and have always been impressed with them.

I'm much less impressed with how much the stuff I aim at gets shot at the place I aim, but that's an operator error issue.

 

[BlayZa]

as someone outside the usa
its kinda amazing how easy your companies and entities are influenced by a few people protesting stuff, but from a lot of what ive read of Portland, it seems a hotbed for 'progress' even if it's in a removal sense. social virtue is a hell of a drug.

*shrug*

 

[BlayZa]

On a side note England is considering banning "pointy" kitchen knives saying they are obsolete and have no use.

england has a shit ton of knife attacks.
all the lil street scrubs use them to rob people.

banning them might save a few nicks in the kitchen, but it aint gonna do shit to stop the crime.

 

[illmatic99]

Or one could argue that without our military power, none of our other priorities could be pursued...

would be a ridiculous argument, but OK.

 

[illmatic99]

This is why we can't have Championship Titles.

LMAO

 

[Eastoff]

Can we move this to the OT now?

 

[Hoopguru]

Slave labor is the best labor?

They could always get a job and learn the value of earning money to provide for themselves and stay here, or help them learn the value of helping others, as they have been helped. It would be a good thing to get them to move off center one way or the other.

 

[The Professional Fan]

I'm not republican. But guns ARE are a heck of a great time and 99.9999999% (just an estimate) of the times they are used nobody gets hurt.

The CDC also found that in the US, they are used (though not usually fired) in over 2 million defensive gun uses per year.

That's 200x more often than they are used successfully to commit homicide.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...e-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/cdc-provides-more-evidence-that-plenty-o/amp

Remember that this includes everything from killing an assailant, down to simply brandishing a gun to dissuade a potential attacker.

I've shot guns before. They're a blast. No pun intended.

 

[BlazerWookee]

<facepalm>

 

[dviss1]

This makes me ill and discouraged. I guess these are the days we live in. Thanks social media. #Tolerance4MeButNot4Thee

Really? Like, really??

Please tell me how this relationship benefited the Blazers besides creating protesters.

I'd happily join the protesters and am very glad the Blazers ended their affiliation with a company that continuously fleeces our country.

Like we need to be spending that much money on "defense".

 

[Reep]

Really? Like, really??

Please tell me how this relationship benefited the Blazers besides creating protesters.

I'd happily join the protesters and am very glad the Blazers ended their affiliation with a company that continuously fleeces our country.

Like we need to be spending that much money on "defense".

The military spending is a red herring. A local business that has been very successful, has it's relationship with the Blazers killed by a bunch of unemployed, over-entitled perpetually-offended people. I don't care what the business is, I don't like seeing the tantrums of the perpetually-offended rewarded so they will keep being unemployed and continue finding something new that offends them to protest.

Do you honestly believe that this group won't just run to the next cause to protest? You think they will now go back to their day jobs content with their efforts?

This is just another example of the cancel culture. The "tolerant" people attempting to cancel anything they don't personally agree with.

I recognize you and I are never going to agree on political matters. I would just like to say that I appreciate you as a fellow Blazer fan even though we don't agree on political issues.

 

[theprunetang]

The military spending is a red herring. A local business that has been very successful, has it's relationship with the Blazers killed by a bunch of unemployed, over-entitled perpetually-offended people. I don't care what the business is, I don't like seeing the tantrums of the perpetually-offended rewarded so they will keep being unemployed and continue finding something new that offends them to protest.

Do you honestly believe that this group won't just run to the next cause to protest? You think they will now go back to their day jobs content with their efforts?

This is just another example of the cancel culture. The "tolerant" people attempting to cancel anything they don't personally agree with.

I recognize you and I are never going to agree on political matters. I would just like to say that I appreciate you as a fellow Blazer fan even though we don't agree on political issues.

Generalize much?

 

[Jon]

You think they will now go back to their day jobs content with their efforts?

they have day jobs?

 

[Reep]

Generalize much?

When the shoe fits, yes. Pretty sure this wasn't a random group of business people.

 

[theprunetang]

When the shoe fits, yes. Pretty sure this wasn't a random group of business people.

Because anyone who disagrees with you or actually cares about a cause is jobless. Your generalizations completely neuter your arguments.

 

[Reep]

Because anyone who disagrees with you or actually cares about a cause is jobless. Your generalizations completely neuter your arguments.

I never said I disagreed with them. My point is that I don't think it is healthy for people to protest companies they don't like to try and harm them or shut them down. If everyone did this then jobs would start dying off and you end up harming the people who work for the companies. Everyone is offended by something. Should we shut it all down?

There are people on board with the cancel culture and people that are not on board. I am not on board. And yes, I do believe the vast majority of the social media cancel culture types are not gainfully employed and live in their parent's basement.

I'm going to go back to only basketball comments. Many of us don't agree on political issues, but I hope we can focus on this exciting time of year and all the promise that is going on at the practice facility. Go Blazers.

 

[theprunetang]

I never said I disagreed with them. My point is that I don't think it is healthy for people to protest companies they don't like to try and harm them or shut them down. If everyone did this then jobs would start dying off and you end up harming the people who work for the companies. Everyone is offended by something. Should we shut it all down?

There are people on board with the cancel culture and people that are not on board. I am not on board. And yes, I do believe the vast majority of the social media cancel culture types are not gainfully employed and live in their parent's basement.

I'm going to go back to only basketball comments. Many of us don't agree on political issues, but I hope we can focus on this exciting time of year and all the promise that is going on at the practice facility. Go Blazers.

Yep. I'm ready to get back to basketball. And, go!

 

[Eastoff]

OT please move this to OT

 

[Lanny]

https://www.wweek.com/sports/2019/0...hip-with-military-contractor-leupold-stevens/

Several groups, including the Portland Democratic Socialists of America, have protested the Blazers' relationship with the company, which supplies rifle scopes to the U.S. military and other armed forces.

The Trail Blazers are ending a controversial partnership with Beaverton-based sniper-scopes manufacturer Leupold & Stevens.

NBA writer Sean Highkin first reported that Blazers President Chris McGowan made the announcement this afternoon at the team's media day, saying that "Leupold is no longer a part of the organization."

Several groups, including the Portland Democratic Socialists of America, have protested the Blazers' relationship with the company, which supplies rifle scopes to the U.S. military and other armed forces, including the Israeli Defense Force.

It's the company's work with the Israeli army that has drawn protest from the DSA, which opposes the occupation of Palestine.

Leupold & Stevens had sponsored a regular segment at Moda Center called Hometown Heroes, meant to honor local military veterans and first responders with free tickets, gifts and in-game recognition.(CONTINUED...)

That's too bad. My hunting rifle has one of their excellent scopes. Mounted with Redfield mounts. 3X9 with a post graticule.

 

[Lanny]

OT please move this to OT

What's the big deal?

 

[Lanny]

If you pay attention to all the training you receive you don’t need a scope. Snipers cheat and use em though.

Yeah, that's just for the ordinary grunt and not the sniper.

 

[Lanny]

#BANSNIPERS

Before you embrace this position I think that you should realize that snipers saved a lot of American lives in Vietnam, perhaps even me. No doubt about it, they've saved countless American lives in the middle East.
No, I support our snipers. It's the idiots that get them into needless wars that I don't support. The GI is doing his job.

 

[Lanny]

*munching popcorn, watching this thread devolve into a political shitshow*

I don't think that supporting our troops is any kind of "political shitshow".

 

[Lanny]

I was okay with hometown heroes but a little jealous. Us Vietnam Vets have never really received any recognition despite having an incredibly high casualty list. Some of us came back either in a coffin or with debilitating disabilities.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I fully support the troops. First and foremost, by arguing they should have never been sent to begin with.

 

[CupWizier]

I was okay with hometown heroes but a little jealous. Us Vietnam Vets have never really received any recognition despite having an incredibly high casualty list. Some of us came back either in a coffin or with debilitating disabilities.

That to me was the saddest part of the Vietnam war era is how the troops were perceived and treated when they came home as if it was their fault. How can you blame a bunch of young men forced to serve and go in a war we never attempted to win? I never had to serve as my draft class was right after they abolished the draft and we were withdrawing troops, but my number was #20 which meant I was essentially drafted if the draft rule hadn't expired.

 

[Lanny]

That to me was the saddest part of the Vietnam war era is how the troops were perceived and treated when they came home as if it was their fault. How can you blame a bunch of young men forced to serve and go in a war we never attempted to win? I never had to serve as my draft class was right after they abolished the draft and we were withdrawing troops, but my number was #20 which meant I was essentially drafted if the draft rule hadn't expired.

One nimrod in here called me a "baby killer".

 

[dviss1]

The military spending is a red herring. A local business that has been very successful, has it's relationship with the Blazers killed by a bunch of unemployed, over-entitled perpetually-offended people. I don't care what the business is, I don't like seeing the tantrums of the perpetually-offended rewarded so they will keep being unemployed and continue finding something new that offends them to protest.

Do you honestly believe that this group won't just run to the next cause to protest? You think they will now go back to their day jobs content with their efforts?

This is just another example of the cancel culture. The "tolerant" people attempting to cancel anything they don't personally agree with.

I recognize you and I are never going to agree on political matters. I would just like to say that I appreciate you as a fellow Blazer fan even though we don't agree on political issues.

Sorry but that's a load of bull to me. And personally, IDGAF who gets "caught in the crossfire" when it comes to cutting military spending. We spend more on "defense" than the next 10 countries. It's not a fucking red herring.