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This is a really interesting thread....... wonder what's going to happen? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
I'm not going to hate on new Californian transplants just for going to a few games. Sh-t. I graduated college in SF and lived in Cali for several years and the Blazers got plenty of love from them. But when this place hits hard times and the Fakers still suck..... don't mention the rain!
 
Draco said:
Evil companies destroy the environment, exploit workers, corrupt the government, take advantage of the elderly, poor and addicts.

Comcast sells an overpriced product with crappy customer service that can be frustrating to purchase. Its annoying but its hardly evil. Their held in the same regard as all the other cable companies. Here in Austin we got Time Warner which is a mirror image of Comcast.
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Comcast does exactly these things you describe as an evil company. (FYI, Time Warner and Comcast are the same network)

Comcast destroys the environment. They dig up the ground to bury their products. NO it isn't huge, but it could be considered the same as oil drilling projects digging in the ground. What will be the effects of this 50-100 years when we have all these conduits with aging cable buried in the ground?

Comcast exploits its workers, most specifically its subcontractors. They will intentionally over schedule customer service issues and new hookups even though they cant handle it and then force the subcontractors to take on more work at the end of the day. I can't tell you how many nights I finished my work at 6 but didn't get home until after 10, so their employees could make their dinner.

Comcast does corrupt the government.. Not sure how, but the legal monopoly they have is enough for me to believe this.

Comcast may not take advantage of the elderly, but they most definitely take advantage of the poor.
I also firmly believe the reason they monitor our viewing is so they can then package the channels we like to watch into a higher tier package forcing us to pay more for the same channels as someone else, because I watch those channels more.

Having been a supervisor for a contract company, I have been deep inside Comcast and seen just how they treat people.
 
HCP said:
This is a really interesting thread....... wonder what's going to happen? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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what do you care, FAMS? You'll get paid no matter which channel they sign with. FAMS.

FAMS.

F.A.M.S.

Fat and Mangy Sucka!
 
Orion Bailey said:
Comcast does exactly these things you describe as an evil company. (FYI, Time Warner and Comcast are the same network)

Comcast destroys the environment. They dig up the ground to bury their products. NO it isn't huge, but it could be considered the same as oil drilling projects digging in the ground. What will be the effects of this 50-100 years when we have all these conduits with aging cable buried in the ground?

Comcast exploits its workers, most specifically its subcontractors. They will intentionally over schedule customer service issues and new hookups even though they cant handle it and then force the subcontractors to take on more work at the end of the day. I can't tell you how many nights I finished my work at 6 but didn't get home until after 10, so their employees could make their dinner.

Comcast does corrupt the government.. Not sure how, but the legal monopoly they have is enough for me to believe this.

Comcast may not take advantage of the elderly, but they most definitely take advantage of the poor.
I also firmly believe the reason they monitor our viewing is so they can then package the channels we like to watch into a higher tier package forcing us to pay more for the same channels as someone else, because I watch those channels more.

Having been a supervisor for a contract company, I have been deep inside Comcast and seen just how they treat people.
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The way conduit works is you pull out old cable and pull in new cable. The benefits of having conduit are many.

The alternative is ugly phone poles and wires above ground. All that infrastructure is exposed to much harsher conditions.
 
It's not that easy to get new providers in because of the investment they have to make in the city. Comcast made that investment, other companies have chosen not to do so (look at how long it's taking Google to decide). The city worked hard to get century link in to give portland another option. Being convinced of them being in cahoots with Comcast is too big brotherish.
 
If the city owns the conduit, they would be able to rent it out and charge companies for construction.

Construction would be pulling new cable, installing bigger conduit, etc.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Honestly, it's hard to meet people who grew up in Oregon anymore.
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That's because we are all in California. I think it works both ways. I rarely meet people in SoCal that are originally form SoCal.
We are very much a transient society.....
 
Denny Crane said:
The way conduit works is you pull out old cable and pull in new cable. The benefits of having conduit are many.

The alternative is ugly phone poles and wires above ground. All that infrastructure is exposed to much harsher conditions.
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Right. I've pulled tons of conduit. Im talking about when they dig the trenches for the conduit. (Some are actually pulled into the ground with a machine), but when the ditches are dug and the conduit is tossed into the ditch. I've seen TONS of trash and extra string line, tape, etc all end up in these ditches with the conduit.

JFizzleRaider said:
It's not that easy to get new providers in because of the investment they have to make in the city. Comcast made that investment, other companies have chosen not to do so (look at how long it's taking Google to decide). The city worked hard to get century link in to give Portland another option. Being convinced of them being in cahoots with Comcast is too big brotherish.
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But Comcast didn't build this infrastructure, they bought out American cable and then added on. You are right though, in that the network is now so large, no one could buy out Comcast and the startup costs to build your own network simply isnt realistic for a company to be sustainable long term. This is the legal monopoly.
The other factor is there is only so much space on a telephone pole, with OSHA regulations on how far one utility must be from another. On most metro areas, the poles are the older 30-35 foot poles that don't provide any more spacing for another company tor build their own network.

This is all part of the legal monopoly. Was it planned? Probably not, but in my opinion, is still a legal monopoly.
 
Denny Crane said:
If the city owns the conduit, they would be able to rent it out and charge companies for construction.

Construction would be pulling new cable, installing bigger conduit, etc.
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Great thoughts, but major problem. Almost every metro area has areas where utilities are not underground.
I agree though in theory. If it would have been planned out better, the city would add the conduit as part of thier street building for new neighborhoods. I know it is for street lights... why not utilities? Then the city could rent them out toe the utilities for even more income ( yeah i know, lower my taxes but double my cable bill)...
 
Orion Bailey said:
Great thoughts, but major problem. Almost every metro area has areas where utilities are not underground.
I agree though in theory. If it would have been planned out better, the city would add the conduit as part of thier street building for new neighborhoods. I know it is for street lights... why not utilities? Then the city could rent them out toe the utilities for even more income ( yeah i know, lower my taxes but double my cable bill)...
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Where utilities are above ground, you have two choices: dig and move the wires/cables, or pull more on the existing poles.

The city still charges for construction. Where I live, the phone, cable, and electric wires are on poles. There's a pole near my back gate. If I pay $10,000+, the city will move it a few feet further away from the gate.

I'm just telling you how it works.
 
The biggest issue we all face is towns cutting deals with companies that deny competition.

Google wants to run fiber many places, but won't because of such laws and other regulations designed to keep competitors out.
 
Denny Crane said:
The biggest issue we all face is towns cutting deals with companies that deny competition.

Google wants to run fiber many places, but won't because of such laws and other regulations designed to keep competitors out.
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Portland is trying very hard to get competition. They have been for years
 
Denny Crane said:
Where utilities are above ground, you have two choices: dig and move the wires/cables, or pull more on the existing poles.

The city still charges for construction. Where I live, the phone, cable, and electric wires are on poles. There's a pole near my back gate. If I pay $10,000+, the city will move it a few feet further away from the gate.

I'm just telling you how it works.
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Right, and many areas (downtowns) you have both above and underground. Yes you can pay to move the cable from your yard, etc, but that wont provide any incentive for another company to move in. Your speaking from a land owner point of view. I'm speaking as a cable consumer point of view. It's a not where its placed ,but how. Again, yes, you can have a pole moved, but it doesn't change the spacing between the utilities ON the pole to provide enough room for another company to come in and hang some mainline.

I thought the point was how to get another cable company into town, and/or the reasons there isn't one?

Having lived in CO and NY in the past 15 years, from what I know, there are very few places that actually provide more than one widespread cable option anymore.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Right, and many areas (downtowns) you have both above and underground. Yes you can pay to move the cable from your yard, etc, but that wont provide any incentive for another company to move in. Your speaking from a land owner point of view. I'm speaking as a cable consumer point of view. It's a not where its placed ,but how. Again, yes, you can have a pole moved, but it doesn't change the spacing between the utilities ON the pole to provide enough room for another company to come in and hang some mainline.

I thought the point was how to get another cable company into town, and/or the reasons there isn't one?

Having lived in CO and NY in the past 15 years, from what I know, there are very few places that actually provide more than one widespread cable option anymore.
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I have a choice of FIOS and TWC and AT&T.
 
Does century link offer consumer service? Maybe they do...
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Buy a amazon fire tv, and subscribe to Playstation vue to watch the games next season.
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You don't even really need to subscribe to PS vue. Just side load Kodi onto that bad boy and you will never miss a sporting event ever again!
 
Huh? I have no complaint. I know how hard the city worked for us to have options. Others just assume the city wanted Comcast to be the only one.
 
What a fluff piece for Comcast! I had to double check that this was the Trib and not some Comcast press release.

Does anybody have contact email addresses for people in the Blazers' organization who might care about our input? I can't even find a "contact" button on their website.

I live in the Gorge and could not get Comcast even if I wanted to. But League Pass is blacked out anyway, so I've been screwed for all these years. I gave up my long-time season tickets in disgust. I hardly know what the new players look like anymore. When the Blazers reps call asking me to renew my season tickets I tell them there isn't Blazer-mania anymore because people can't turn on their television and watch their home team! People don't even talk about the Blazers like they used to. They've become irrelevant, thanks to Comcast and the Blazer's short sighted money grab decision nine years ago. PLEASE go with Root Sports so I can watch my Blazers again - or allow pay per streaming or something - anything but Comcast!
 
barfo said:
Find out what 1 Gig can do for you — May not be available in your area

that last part is kind of important.

barfo
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I'm not sure 1 Gig is going to benefit most people. The big change is it allows the provider to implement digital broadcast instead of analog.

99% of the time you'll be using near 0 kb (let alone Gb). If you stream Netflix high bandwidth HD to 5 TVs at the same time, you'll use only 4% of a gigabit.

If you download 20GB of a video game, it would take 3-4 minutes, which is great. The other 23 hours 56 minutes you'll use near zero.

The speed of web page loading is far more bound by how fast the www server can deliver a page. Only the most massive sites with big bucks invested in infrastructure will be slightly faster over the 1g connection.

If you're pirating movies, you'll see the benefit. Unless you get caught.
 
soona said:
What a fluff piece for Comcast! I had to double check that this was the Trib and not some Comcast press release.

Does anybody have contact email addresses for people in the Blazers' organization who might care about our input? I can't even find a "contact" button on their website.

I live in the Gorge and could not get Comcast even if I wanted to. But League Pass is blacked out anyway, so I've been screwed for all these years. I gave up my long-time season tickets in disgust. I hardly know what the new players look like anymore. When the Blazers reps call asking me to renew my season tickets I tell them there isn't Blazer-mania anymore because people can't turn on their television and watch their home team! People don't even talk about the Blazers like they used to. They've become irrelevant, thanks to Comcast and the Blazer's short sighted money grab decision nine years ago. PLEASE go with Root Sports so I can watch my Blazers again - or allow pay per streaming or something - anything but Comcast!
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I can say with certainty that they care about your input and your situation.

They are aware of how the last deal affected so many fans.

This is also not the same group of management that made the last deal.

I'm expecting a deal that makes sense for the team and the fans.

They should not black out away games, IMO.
 
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