Blazers fans organizing 'Stay LA' rally to keep LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland

[illmatic99]

yeesh turning on a guy before he's left.

He's a FA, and earned the right to go where he wants. Played hurt his "last year" here (if he leaves)
If he leaves and bad mouths the city, or fans, then sure I'll jump on and say not cool. But even if he leaves cause other teams offer him more of what he wants (even if its less money) then I wish him nothing but the best.

He mentioned last year that he would stay. If he would have just internally revealed his sentiment if he wanted to leave, Neil could have easily found a package similar to what Minny got for Love.

If he leaves now and we don't get anything in return because our front office trusted his lying ass, then he completely deserves all the hate he will inevitably get.

 

[BlazerWookee]

He mentioned last year that he would stay. If he would have just internally revealed his sentiment if he wanted to leave, Neil could have easily found a package similar to what Minny got for Love.

If he leaves now and we don't get anything in return because our front office trusted his lying ass, then he completely deserves all the hate he will inevitably get.

What makes you think he hasn't internally revealed his sentiment, either way?

 

[illmatic99]

What makes you think he hasn't internally revealed his sentiment, either way?

A few reasons, 1) he straight up said to everyone that the only reason he did not sign an extension last summer was to get his 5th year (ya he might have been playing the media, but I want to believe him) 2) He would have been traded by now, or we would have heard trade rumors over the last year.

If he internally revealed his desire to stay, then props to him, and he would obviously not get any hate.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Just reinforces my belief that you can't build a championship team around a PF (unless you're lucky enough to have the best PF to ever play the game).

I agree that you can no longer build your team around a PF. It's all about the players who can dribble, because when the game is on the line, it is too easy for the defense to force a big to give the ball up. They will just collapse on him.

But you still need versatile bigs on the floor. And LMA is one of the better ones in the league. So you obviously keep him if you can. We are a better team with him. If we can't, then Leonard is the next man up..........

 

[Wheels]

He mentioned last year that he would stay. If he would have just internally revealed his sentiment if he wanted to leave, Neil could have easily found a package similar to what Minny got for Love.

If he leaves now and we don't get anything in return because our front office trusted his lying ass, then he completely deserves all the hate he will inevitably get.

minds and hearts change. And its a business. Our very own GM made his intentions known to Eric Gordon then traded him when a no brainer came along. At the end of the day, we all have to do whats best for ourselves. So I wouldn't be mad, even if he had a change of heart.

But if he bad mouths, then I say pile on the hate. But at this point in time, he hasn't done anything that would lead me to believe that he would go that route (not saying you are implying he would)

Just my opinion.

 

[BlazerWookee]

minds and hearts change. And its a business. Our very own GM made his intentions known to Eric Gordon then traded him when a no brainer came along. At the end of the day, we all have to do whats best for ourselves. So I wouldn't be mad, even if he had a change of heart.

But if he bad mouths, then I say pile on the hate. But at this point in time, he hasn't done anything that would lead me to believe that he would go that route (not saying you are implying he would)

Just my opinion.

He's not implying he would. He's implying he already has.

 

[Wheels]

He's not implying he would. He's implying he already has.

I didn't notice any implication on him saying LA would bad mouth the city/organization/fans etc. That's what I was referring to.

 

[blue9]

But you still need versatile bigs on the floor.

I agree with this. Where we disagree is on LMA's versatility. While he doesn't use his versatility on offense very often, he does have a diverse array of ways to score. But outside of scoring, or defending another PF, he doesn't have any versatility and that's why we'll never get over the hump of "pretender" status with him on the team.

 

[magnifier661]

Just reinforces my belief that you can't build a championship team around a PF (unless you're lucky enough to have the best PF to ever play the game).

So you are saying the Kings "lead by Chris Webber", who were robbed in game 6 against the lakers couldn't beat NJ in the finals?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I agree with this. Where we disagree is on LMA's versatility. While he doesn't use his versatility on offense very often, he does have a diverse array of ways to score. But outside of scoring, or defending another PF, he doesn't have any versatility and that's why we'll never get over the hump of "pretender" status with him on the team.

Who are you thinking about instead of LMA?

 

[santeesioux]

I certainly wouldn't beg for him to come back, if he does, he does, if he doesn't, he doesn't.

 

[blue9]

Who are you thinking about instead of LMA?

Well, I think the roster needs a make-over, not just a new PF. But, if we were to keep the roster and simply replace LMA I think we'd be a better team with a healthy Ibaka. A few years back I would have said David West. In his prime Haslem was a good example of a championship-caliber PF. I'm still intrigued by Monroe - if we got a coach that taught good defensive principals I think Monroe could be a really good PF. I'm really interested to see what Meyers does next season - his Playoff showing got me excited. But there aren't many PFs I get excited about because I think PFs should be one of the least "exciting" players on the roster (at least LMA has that going for him!). I want a PF who does all the things that go unnoticed, but that make a team better, and put in maybe 10-14 points on high-percentage shots. PF is the easiest spot to fill, and can be played effectively by hard-hat/journeyman type players. But PFs need to (1) set good screens, (2) box out, (3) provide help defense, and (4) keep the ball moving on offense - those are things they HAVE to do, anything more is just a cherry on top.

 

[Pinwheel1]

PF is the easiest spot to fill, and can be played effectively by hard-hat/journeyman type players. But PFs need to (1) set good screens, (2) box out, (3) provide help defense, and (4) keep the ball moving on offense - those are things they HAVE to do, anything more is just a cherry on top.

Unless you have a center journeyman who does all of that instead. I think now a days you can only afford to have one hard hat starter ...the rest have to have offensive skills. Especially In crunch time.

Paying someone like Monroe a max contract would be a nice consolation prize if we lost LA, but you know we will all find fault with some aspect of his game. We do that with every player.

 

[BlazerWookee]

It seems that the fox has decided the grapes are sour, despite the fact that he hasn't even gotten close enough to try to jump for them...

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

So you are saying the Kings "lead by Chris Webber", who were robbed in game 6 against the lakers couldn't beat NJ in the finals?

That Kings team was not Webber and Co.

That team was loaded, I mean look at their playoff rotation:

Mike Bibby / Bobby Jackson
Doug Christie
Peja Stojakovic / Hedo Turkoglu
Chris Webber
Vlade Divac / Scot Pollard

Oh and they had a 19 year old Gerald Wallace on their bench.

 

[riverman]

If you think you can't build a championship team around a PF...you probably hate the Duncan era Spurs

 

[BlazerWookee]

If you think you can't build a championship team around a PF...you probably hate the 5-Time NBA Champions Duncan era Spurs

FIFY

 

[Pinwheel1]

If you think you can't build a championship team around a PF...you probably hate the Duncan era Spurs

In all fairness he did preface it by saying: (unless you're lucky enough to have the best PF to ever play the game).

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

If you think you can't build a championship team around a PF...you probably hate the Duncan era Spurs

Lol Duncan shits on Aldridge every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Aldridge isn't even close to a top 10 Power Forward of all time... It's a disgrace to Duncan's name to compare the two.

 

[Wheels]

Lol Duncan shits on Aldridge every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I guess if he's into that kinda thing, maybe that's why he wants to be with the Spurs full time?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

If you think you can't build a championship team around a PF...you probably hate the Duncan era Spurs

Pau Gasol should have been the MVP the last time the Lakers won the 'ship.

 

[riverman]

Lol Duncan shits on Aldridge every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Aldridge isn't even close to a top 10 Power Forward of all time... It's a disgrace to Duncan's name to compare the two.

We beat the Spurs this season...it's no disgrace to call it like I see it. I've seen Lamarcus outplay Duncan. Triple overtime win in their house ring a bell? I love Duncan's game and so does Lamarcus.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Lol Duncan shits on Aldridge every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Aldridge isn't even close to a top 10 Power Forward of all time... It's a disgrace to Duncan's name to compare the two.

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there...

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We beat the Spurs this season...it's no disgrace to call it like I see it. I've seen Lamarcus outplay Duncan. Triple overtime win in their house ring a bell? I love Duncan's game and so does Lamarcus.

Whoopdie do, they still beat our asses in the playoffs when it mattered.

The reason we won that 3OT game is because of Lillard going for 43 too, Duncan played just as well as LA did in 10 less minutes.

Duncan is a decade older than LA and still holds his own lol absolute prime Duncan destroys absolute prime LA and it's not even close.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'm not saying LA is a bad player, he is a good player. Not great though.

In 20 years people aren't going to be talking about LaMarcus Aldridge as a top player at his position, he will be just 'one of those guys who were good'. The same way Alonzo Mourning is remembered.

 

[Pinwheel1]

How many players have not played well for Pop? Duncan was great, but I can not help but think how his career would have turned out if he had been drafted by someone else. A team with no team defense

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

How many players have not played well for Pop? Duncan was great, but I can not help but think how his career would have turned out if he had been drafted by someone else. A team with no team defense

If he didn't go the Spurs he would've been with AI in Philly (IMAGINE THAT DUO... DAMN!!!) or in Boston.

 

[riverman]

Whoopdie do, they still beat our asses in the playoffs when it mattered.

You lost me at Whoodie do..Duncan has lost his share of playoff games and series..like this year's for instance

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

You lost me at Whoopdie doo ..Dunc

You lost me at Whoopdie doo...if you think Duncan hasn't lost playoff games and series..you're mistaken

Lol Ummmm Duncan has 5 rings (should have 6). And countless other series victories/playoff wins.

LA? 1 playoff series win... And a record of...... 12-22

 

[e_blazer]

Whoopdie do, they still beat our asses in the playoffs when it mattered.

The reason we won that 3OT game is because of Lillard going for 43 too, Duncan played just as well as LA did in 10 less minutes.

Duncan is a decade older than LA and still holds his own lol absolute prime Duncan destroys absolute prime LA and it's not even close.

I love the "and it's not even close" argument. I'm not weighing in on LA vs Duncan, just that I find the use of this line on this board to be humorous. Kind of like, "Dude, I am so right it's not even worth trying to discuss it with me." Well, alrighty then. Case closed.