Blazers fire Hughes!

[Dom McBlazer]

Enter assistant coach Thibbs! If that doesn't work bring in Laimbeer

I approve.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I just retired from an OSEA job in Oregon after 14 years and for all 14 years I could not wear a political button or publicly call any politician an asshole...freedom is great but if you want to keep your job....Nobody looks good in brown lipstick

You get the like for the lipstick quote alone. Classic!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Yeah I agree. Neil may have been looking for an excuse.....and got one.

Neil's the guy that brought Hughes on board after working with him for years. He knew what he was getting and had to know what kind of filters Hughes had...or didn't have. It Olskey's responsibility to insure everyone is on the same page.

 

[Chaser]

This.

I bet Thibs wins 60, or close to it, with this roster.

How much will you bet?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

How much will you bet?

Yeah I want in on that bet.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What confuses me about all this is that Hughes is not a stupid person . . . both as a coach and common sense kind of person. He must have known a comment like that would put his job in jeopardy. Which makes me believe either he was so out of touch with Blazer world he didn't know Olshey just commented on the Aldridge issue (unlikely and still smart enough to not comment on LA's free agency status) or it was an act of rebellion against Olshey.

I feel Olshey has been shady since day one he became the GM. I commented back then you probably can't believe anything he says. Now personally I don't care as long as he can put together a good team, but I really have never believed much of what he says. Maybe his misrepresentations have carried so far as to affect staff. Maybe Hughes has had enough of Olshey's BS and decided to make him look foolish with a short but powerful public statement.

Hughes is a talented coach who will find a job with another team . . . I think Hughes knew exactly what he was doing and decided to expose Olshey for the liar he is.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah I want in on that bet.

He won 48 with DJ Augustin as his primary scorer. And 60+ Once, 50 in the 66 game strike shortened season.

 

[Sinobas]

What confuses me about all this is that Hughes is not a stupid person . . . both as a coach and common sense kind of person. He must have known a comment like that would put his job in jeopardy. Which makes me believe either he was so out of touch with Blazer world he didn't know Olshey just commented on the Aldridge issue (unlikely and still smart enough to not comment on LA's free agency status) or it was an act of rebellion against Olshey.

I feel Olshey has been shady since day one he became the GM. I commented back then you probably can't believe anything he says. Now personally I don't care as long as he can put together a good team, but I really have never believed much of what he says. Maybe his misrepresentations have carried so far as to affect staff. Maybe Hughes has had enough of Olshey's BS and decided to make him look foolish with a short but powerful public statement.

Hughes is a talented coach who will find a job with another team . . . I think Hughes knew exactly what he was doing and decided to expose Olshey for the liar he is.

Every GM of every sports franchise lies.

And you're over-thinking it, everyone slips up.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

He won 48 with DJ Augustin as his primary scorer. And 60+ Once, 50 in the 66 game strike shortened season.

Sounds like either way I win!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Every GM of every sports franchise lies.

And you're over-thinking it, everyone slips up.

I don't think every GM lies, many misrepresent (many stay silent) but some misrepresent (lie) more than others. Olshey comes from LA to Ptd as a slick talking GM who had all the answers. He had a comment for everything, but it turns out that he just shoots from the hip and doesn't hesitate to throw stuff out there that sounds good but may not be true.

I suppose everyone slips up, but this wasn't a simple slip up. A slip up is missing a meeting or a bus to the plane. That statement cost him his job . . . and not everyone makes statements that cost them their job.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't think every GM lies, many misrepresent (many stay silent) but some misrepresent (lie) more than others. Olshey comes from LA to Ptd as a slick talking GM who had all the answers. He had a comment for everything, but it turns out that he just shoots from the hip and doesn't hesitate to throw stuff out there that sounds good but may not be true.

I suppose everyone slips up, but this wasn't a simple slip up. A slip up is missing a meeting or a bus to the plane. That statement cost him his job . . . and not everyone makes statements that cost them their job.

I now see that Hughes comments were one day after Neil's comments. I thought they were before for some reason. That changes everything for me. That is no coincidence if that is true. I agree that was a calculated response by Hughes.

 

[barfo]

I now see that Hughes comments were one day after Neil's comments. I thought they were before for some reason. That changes everything for me. That is no coincidence if that is true. I agree that was a calculated response by Hughes.

Calculated in what way? If he wanted to leave he could have just resigned. I doubt he gained anything by being fired.

barfo

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Danny Manning or Donny Daniels.

Regarded as the best big man coaches in the NCAA.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Calculated in what way? If he wanted to leave he could have just resigned. I doubt he gained anything by being fired.

barfo

Wanted to call Olshey out for all his BS (just a theory . . . but it would bug the hell out of me if I worked for someone like that . . . says whatever sounds good)

"Caleb's my guy"

 

[Pinwheel1]

Calculated in what way? If he wanted to leave he could have just resigned. I doubt he gained anything by being fired.

barfo

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when I thought it was before Neil's comments. Even though I thought Hughes went out of his way with the way he worded things.
It seemed odd....like it was prepared. (Calculated)

 

[WillG]

Hughes knew the parameters of his employment; and stepped outside of those boundaries.
Any job with sensitive information would have yielded the same outcome.

Sure it may have been an innocent (and truthful) mistake, but in the end Kim only has himself to blame.

Having said that, I feel sorry for the guy for losing his job for 'just telling the truth' and hope he lands another gig.

 

[barfo]

Wanted to call Olshey out for all his BS (just a theory . . . but it would bug the hell out of me if I worked for someone like that . . . says whatever sounds good)

"Caleb's my guy"

If that was what it was, then he certainly deserved to be fired, calling out the boss in public isn't really the mark of a good employee.

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I'm surprised how many people are OK with NO lying to fans. Give me a break with this he is trying to fool players to come to Ptd. Everyone knew LA was leaving. NO moves showed he was leaving, articles said he was leaving, I can't imagine an agent worth his salt thinking LA was staying. NO, from day one, shoots from the hip and says anything he wants, he is well spoken and delivers it well . . . but he thinks we are gullible fans that will believe anything he says. I say take your slick hair and forked tongue and go back to LA. Give me a GM I can trust.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

If that was what it was, then he certainly deserved to be fired, calling out the boss in public isn't really the mark of a good employee.

barfo

Doesn't make the mark of a good boss when a classy person like Hughes does it (if that is what he did)

But I agree he deserves to be fired.

 

[magnifier661]

I'm surprised how many people are OK with NO lying to fans. Give me a break with this he is trying to fool players to come to Ptd. Everyone knew LA was leaving. NO moves showed he was leaving, articles said he was leaving, I can't imagine an agent worth his salt thinking LA was staying. NO, from day one, shoots from the hip and says anything he wants, he is well spoken and delivers it well . . . but he thinks we are gullible fans that will believe anything he says. I say take your slick hair and forked tongue and go back to LA. Give me a GM I can trust.

Awe hindsight 20/20 poster.... Funny how you didn't say this before.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Awe hindsight 20/20 poster.... Funny how you didn't say this before.

Well I was willing to bet you LA was leaving after Olshey's comments (noticed you never commented) Was willing to bet money to something like being a moderator . . . I've said you couldn't trust what NO says since his first interview as a GM, was all over him his first draft for saying he doesn't draft by position but BPA . . . don't know how much more of a track record I need.

I have always said I don't care if he lies as long as he puts together a championship contending team. But I haven't seen him do anything special and am getting tired of his BS.

Apparently so is Hughes. (kidding don't know why Hughes said that, but simple mistake isn"t something I would expect from a seasoned vet coach like Hughes)

 

[barfo]

I'm surprised how many people are OK with NO lying to fans. Give me a break with this he is trying to fool players to come to Ptd. Everyone knew LA was leaving. NO moves showed he was leaving, articles said he was leaving, I can't imagine an agent worth his salt thinking LA was staying. NO, from day one, shoots from the hip and says anything he wants, he is well spoken and delivers it well . . . but he thinks we are gullible fans that will believe anything he says. I say take your slick hair and forked tongue and go back to LA. Give me a GM I can trust.

Well, there are some problems with that. First of all, it was probably never 100.0% certain that LMA was leaving until he did. Even if NO believed he was 99.99% certain to leave, it would be just stupid to shut the door on any remaining chance by declaring publicly that LMA was gone. Second, he didn't tell you that LMA was staying. He said that LMA hadn't told him that he was leaving. Which is likely 100% true, given what we know about LMA's personality and communication skills. Third, it's his job to blow smoke up people's asses.

Which Blazer GMs did you trust and why?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Well I was willing to bet you LA was leaving after Olshey's comments (noticed you never commented) Was willing to bet money to something like being a moderator . . . I've said you couldn't trust what NO says since his first interview as a GM, was all over him his first draft for saying he doesn't draft by position but BPA . . . don't know how much more of a track record I need.

I have always said I don't care if he lies as long as he puts together a championship contending team. But I haven't seen him do anything special and am getting tired of his BS.

Apparently so is Hughes. (kidding don't know why Hughes said that, but simple mistake isn"t something I would expect from a seasoned vet coach like Hughes)

Say what? I don't remember you betting me! And btw, I didn't get on some bet mid season when it was said and I'm a betting man.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm surprised how many people are OK with NO lying to fans. Give me a break with this he is trying to fool players to come to Ptd. Everyone knew LA was leaving. NO moves showed he was leaving, articles said he was leaving, I can't imagine an agent worth his salt thinking LA was staying. NO, from day one, shoots from the hip and says anything he wants, he is well spoken and delivers it well . . . but he thinks we are gullible fans that will believe anything he says. I say take your slick hair and forked tongue and go back to LA. Give me a GM I can trust.

He can lie to me every time he opens his mouth so long as I still believe he's doing things that put this team in a position to be more competitive down the line. All I care about are results, words coming out the mouth of a salesman mean fuck all to me.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well, there are some problems with that. First of all, it was probably never 100.0% certain that LMA was leaving until he did. Even if NO believed he was 99.99% certain to leave, it would be just stupid to shut the door on any remaining chance by declaring publicly that LMA was gone. Second, he didn't tell you that LMA was staying. He said that LMA hadn't told him that he was leaving. Which is likely 100% true, given what we know about LMA's personality and communication skills. Third, it's his job to blow smoke up people's asses.

Which Blazer GMs did you trust and why?

barfo

I realize GMs are going to spin the truth for betterment of the team. But NO takes it to another level. The guy is a talker but doesn't have a lot of substance behind what he says, IMO. Apparently it doesn't bother fans on this board, which is fine. We all want the same end product and I suppose who cares what what image a GM has or how he does things.

I don't know which GMs I can point to that I loved. But I have posted for a long time and never came out against another GM. Something about Olshey rubs me the wrong way. Just wondering if that something rubbed Hughes the wrong way. GM's aren't supose to blow smoke to their staff, wonder if Olshey conducted himself the same way to staff the way he does when he talks to media. If I had a boss like that what a perfect way to get fired.

I also don't believe for a second that NO didn't know LA was leaving or that LA didn't communicate that to him. But whatever . . . fans on this board seem to love Olshey, not sure why . . .but hope I am wrong and he can put together a contending team.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I agree.

Neil is all flash, no substance.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Hughes didn't confirm anything.

He merely stated the obvious.

On top of looking completely incompetent- Neil looks like an asshole here.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Calculated in what way? If he wanted to leave he could have just resigned. I doubt he gained anything by being fired.

barfo

You can resign because you think your boss is a lying sociopath, or you can prove it on your way out and become a martyr...

 

[jlprk]

I think I voted in the poll to fire him. I take it back. I feel sorry for him.

Never knew it was for real...I don't know my own strength.

 

[riverman]

I think I voted in the poll to fire him. I take it back. I feel sorry for him.

Never knew it was for real...I don't know my own strength.

I didn't vote, just made a cardboard effigy and burned it in the woodstove