Blazers have to wait on Roy Diagnosis

[BGrantFan]

He also did Tom Brady's surgery. And does a shitload of professional athletes. To him, Roy is just like a normal patient, he has a normal case load, etc.. What are you going to do, slip him $10k? I work in the field and it doesn't work like that, even with high profile docs. Unless he's close friends with Roy or covered extensively by the media, its not going to get fast tracked.

Come on now. One of the richest men in the world is flying down his GM and some players to see you. You make time for that unless something is completely off the charts important. I work in the field as well, and I'll add that I would NEVER throw away the schedule of a doc this important to my job. Who is your mole, and why is she giving you that info if you do nothing with it?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I work in the field as well, and it does "work like that". Also, why the fuck would you throw away the schedule for this doc? That is invaluable in what we do.

I didn't need it anymore. Its stupid to think he'll drop everything, cancel surgeries and consults for a second opinion on knee swelling. There is no difference if the answer comes tomorrow or Monday.

 

[BGrantFan]

I didn't need it anymore. Its stupid to think he'll drop everything, cancel surgeries and consults for a second opinion on knee swelling. There is no difference if the answer comes tomorrow or Monday.

Why would he cancel a surgery? All he needs to do is look at the chart and imaging, and if he sees anything out of the current diagnosis, he shuts down Roy on a recommendation. You've seen how fast these guys can look through a chart on a second opinion, right? I'll guess that he went with the status quo because he didn't get a patient consult, but that's just me.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Come on now. One of the richest men in the world is flying down his GM and some players to see you. You make time for that unless something is completely off the charts important. I work in the field as well, and I'll add that I would NEVER throw away the schedule of a doc this important to my job. Who is your mole, and why is she giving you that info if you do nothing with it?

Oden and Elliot Williams had appointments with them. So Paul Allen spends $500 to fly Cho down with them carrying Roy's charts for him to look at. Sure, it can take him only 1/2 hour to look at..maybe shorter...but maybe longer if he needs to ask others, look in his books, or whatever.... but then he needs to dictate his consult report, have them code it, blah blah blah. Its a lot more involved, especially with his case load and given the fact he was probably tired from surgery. I think if i recall correctly, he usually does consults on Mondays, Tuesday and Wednesday are surgery days, Thursday and Friday consults. He'll probably take a look at it, but probably said to cho that no guarantees he'd get to it. Its not that big of a deal.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

It'll be ok, S2

 

[BGrantFan]

Oden and Elliot Williams had appointments with them. So Paul Allen spends $500 to fly Cho down with them carrying Roy's charts for him to look at. Sure, it can take him only 1/2 hour to look at..maybe shorter...but maybe longer if he needs to ask others, look in his books, or whatever.... but then he needs to dictate his consult report, have them code it, blah blah blah. Its a lot more involved, especially with his case load and given the fact he was probably tired from surgery. I think if i recall correctly, he usually does consults on Mondays, Tuesday and Wednesday are surgery days, Thursday and Friday consults. He'll probably take a look at it, but probably said to cho that no guarantees he'd get to it. Its not that big of a deal.

I agree with that, but it cost Allen more than $500 to fly Cho and the players down to LA for this appointment. Anyhow, it's nice to have someone else here who works with elite medical personnel.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

First class on Alaska. maybe it was $700 last minute.

 

[BGrantFan]

First class on Alaska. maybe it was $700 last minute.

Allen made them fly commercial? Really? That's fucking hilarious, if true.

 

[Elvin Jones]

Hey -

First post. Blazer fan. Refugee from another (not-to-be-named) Blazer forum site... it took me a while to find another forum, but this one is bustling. And I like how people are allowed to more or less speak their mind.

I think I'll like it here!

And if it hasn't been said before, we need a new training staff.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I agree with that, but it cost Allen more than $500 to fly Cho and the players down to LA for this appointment. Anyhow, it's nice to have someone else here who works with elite medical personnel.

they run kerlan jobe like a fucking machine. I deal with plastic surgeons so the dynamics are a lot different. He's in a group and those things are always fucked up schedule-wise.

 

[barfo]

Hey -

First post. Blazer fan. Refugee from another (not-to-be-named) Blazer forum site... it took me a while to find another forum, but this one is bustling. And I like how people are allowed to more or less speak their mind.

I think I'll like it here!

And if it hasn't been said before, we need a new training staff.

Welcome aboard!

barfo

 

[MickZagger]

You're a grown man who talks shit on your own behalf. I didn't "mock" your illness; I know it was severe. I merely asked what may have led to it, considering your own abrasive tone on this board, as well as your pleas for sympathy by starting threads about it.

If what you type about me makes you feel better, well, that's the service that I provide for you in your recovery. Get strong again!

Whoa, I thought you announced to the community that you were ignoring me.

Plea's for sympathy? I relayed the message to people I've known for years the reason why I hadn't posted for months. You want sympathy on an internet message board for something your daughters going through. Health is something that shouldn't be taken for granted.

I feel sorry for your "wife" for the countless hours you spend on here being a smartass and playing the "gotcha" and "I told you so" game.

Now back to your version of being a "grown up".

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I guess Williams is having his surgery on Friday per his tweeters.

 

[Ed O]

Come on now. One of the richest men in the world is flying down his GM and some players to see you. You make time for that unless something is completely off the charts important. I work in the field as well, and I'll add that I would NEVER throw away the schedule of a doc this important to my job. Who is your mole, and why is she giving you that info if you do nothing with it?

I love your insider information.

Have you confirmed that Brian Berger was hired by Steve Patterson to do PR work yet?

Ed O.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Hey -

First post. Blazer fan. Refugee from another (not-to-be-named) Blazer forum site... it took me a while to find another forum, but this one is bustling. And I like how people are allowed to more or less speak their mind.

I think I'll like it here!

And if it hasn't been said before, we need a new training staff.

Just a friendly tip:

"Learn the game, then post." -KingSpeed

 

[Elvin Jones]

Just a friendly tip:

"Learn the game, then post." -KingSpeed

OK...

*learning game

...phew! OK, posting this now that I've learned the game. Thanks for the advice!

 

[BGrantFan]

I love your insider information.

Have you confirmed that Brian Berger was hired by Steve Patterson to do PR work yet?

Ed O.

I never claimed to have insider information. I just know how these specialists tend to work, based on my own work and personal experience. If you feel like mocking me yet again, I can't say I'm surprised.

How is the marketing world treating you?

 

[Ed O]

OK...

*learning game

...phew! OK, posting this now that I've learned the game. Thanks for the advice!

Clearly you put as much time into your "game education" as most of us here.

Ed O.

 

[Ed O]

I never claimed to have insider information. I just know how these specialists tend to work, based on my own work and personal experience. If you feel like mocking me yet again, I can't say I'm surprised.

How is the marketing world treating you?

It's great, thanks.

I'm not mocking you. I just find it amusing how often you put down people by claiming knowledge (that the Blazers were going to sue Memphis, that Brian Berger was on Patterson's payroll, etc., etc.) and expertise, and yet the things that you argue don't seem to come to fruition.

Do you have that Brian Berger info that you promised?

Ed O.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

this doc is also the same guy who did Batum's shoulder and Roy's PRP therapy (platlet rich plasma blah blah bullshit).

 

[BGrantFan]

It's great, thanks.

I'm not mocking you. I just find it amusing how often you put down people by claiming knowledge (that the Blazers were going to sue Memphis, that Brian Berger was on Patterson's payroll, etc., etc.) and expertise, and yet the things that you argue don't seem to come to fruition.

Do you have that Brian Berger info that you promised?

Ed O.

Whatever happened to Brian Berger? He was big news for about a week. You'd think a guy with that much legitimate insider information would still have his pulse on the Blazers and still be sought for information.

Guess not...

 

[BGrantFan]

Ed, can you help out the HamBergerler with his blog? This is a bit embarrassing for such an insider...

http://sportsbusinessradio.com/blog

 

[RoyToy]

Interesting tidbit at the end of the article:

Notes: At the request of his agent, Oden was getting a second opinion his left knee, which suffered a fractured patella on Dec. 5 last season. Cho said ElAttrache's diganosis was consistent with the opinion of the Blazers' doctors, but he would not elaborate. Cho said Oden will continue to rehabilitate without a time table

Let's hear some conspiracy theories here. I want to hear them.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Interesting tidbit at the end of the article:



Let's hear some conspiracy theories here. I want to hear them.

I'm not sure about any conspiracy but what I infer from this is that Blazer doctors think Oden's knee is fine and that Oden wanted a 2nd opinion and the Dr. in LA concurred with the Blazer doctors. I guess each individual can decide what they think about that. I assume that Cho didn't want to elaborate because he thought it might be embarrassing for Oden.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

If I were Greg I would want 10 opinions on my knee. From doctors, preferably.

 

[barfo]

I don't know, I think it could be the opposite: Oden's camp thinks he's ready to play, but the blazers docs think otherwise.

barfo

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I don't know, I think it could be the opposite: Oden's camp thinks he's ready to play, but the blazers docs think otherwise.

barfo

So, you've got the impression that Oden is chomping at the bit to get back on the court?

 

[barfo]

So, you've got the impression that Oden is chomping at the bit to get back on the court?

That's what the voices in my head say. Actually, shout. Of course, they are naked and clearly intoxicated, but we should pay attention to them nevertheless.

barfo

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

That's what the voices in my head say. Actually, shout. Of course, they are naked and clearly intoxicated, but we should pay attention to them nevertheless.

barfo

I agree we should all pay attention to the naked and intoxicated.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think the Blazers want Oden back ASAP, but Oden's camp wants to make sure there is as little chance as possible for another injury before he gets paid