Blazers interested in Aaron Gordon

[Chris Craig]

Saw this on RealGM but

Hood + Trent + Collins + Elleby

For

Gordon + Bacon + SRP

Works and puts Blazers 78k under the tax line. I think this is do-able from our end.

Then we have 3 open roster spots and can't fill them without hitting the tax.

 

[tester551]

Then we have 3 open roster spots and can't fill them without hitting the tax.

Which makes it DOA.

 

[Chris Craig]

Which makes it DOA.

Yep

 

[B-Roy]

Then we have 3 open roster spots and can't fill them without hitting the tax.

I think you are required to keep 12. So a 4 for 2 would put the Blazers at 12 + one two way (Blevins). No room in the buyout market after. They would need to fill up practice players by using the two remaining two-way slots, but they theoretically don't need to pick up anyone else on a minimum deal.

 

[Chris Craig]

I think you are required to keep 12. So a 4 for 2 would put the Blazers at 12 + one two way (Blevins). No room in the buyout market after. They would need to fill up practice players by using the two remaining two-way slots, but they theoretically don't need to pick up anyone else on a minimum deal.

I dont like that

 

[B-Roy]

I dont like that

Ok, well. In this deal, you are trading two guys that would play for two guys that would play. (Gordon, Bacon, Trent, Hood).

Collins is out for the season anyways and Elleby never plays. It functionally doesn't change anything regrading minutes. Less depth maybe, but more quality depth. Hood also sucks, Bacon actually plays for the Magic and he's not bad.

 

[tester551]

I think you are required to keep 12. So a 4 for 2 would put the Blazers at 12 + one two way (Blevins). No room in the buyout market after. They would need to fill up practice players by using the two remaining two-way slots, but they theoretically don't need to pick up anyone else on a minimum deal.

Incorrect.
Minimum roster size is 14 (except for short term transaction windows). The 2-way players do not count toward the minimum roster size.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/cba-explained-nba-roster-size-limits/

Teams are obligated to carry a minimum of 14 players during the course of the regular season, although they are permitted to drop to 13 players for up to two weeks.

 

[B-Roy]

Incorrect.
Minimum roster size is 14 (except for short term transaction windows). The 2-way players do not count toward the minimum roster size.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/cba-explained-nba-roster-size-limits/

I am pretty sure that link is wrong, I couldn't find definitive minimum roster limits anywhere else on google, so I went and looked at the actual CBA:

https://cosmic-s3.imgix.net/3c7a0a5...-NBA-NBPA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement.pdf

There is a provision for incomplete rosters, but only states that the team needs at least 12 before the season starts, which is what I remembered. Feel free to read through it and if you can find the provision let me know. I am curious as well.

EDIT: Found it, the wording is actually a bit confusing, but it's saying you need two inactive players and 12 actives. That makes sense. You can definitely fudge the numbers in the deal though, and I do believe that minimum salaries signed during the season only count for their pro-rated amount. There's probably a way to get the deal done, since they also have two weeks to make additional roster swaps.

 

[wizenheimer]

I think you are required to keep 12. So a 4 for 2 would put the Blazers at 12 + one two way (Blevins). No room in the buyout market after. They would need to fill up practice players by using the two remaining two-way slots, but they theoretically don't need to pick up anyone else on a minimum deal.

no...teams must carry a minimum of 14 players. Teams are allowed to drop to 13 for a maximum of two weeks, then they have to hit that 14 mark again

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/cba-explained-nba-roster-size-limits/

 

[B-Roy]

no...teams must carry a minimum of 14 players. Teams are allowed to drop to 13 for a maximum of two weeks, then they have to hit that 14 mark again

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/cba-explained-nba-roster-size-limits/

Yeah, I went to go read the CBA, which just reminded me why I hate lawyers.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Ok, well. In this deal, you are trading two guys that would play for two guys that would play. (Gordon, Bacon, Trent, Hood).

Collins is out for the season anyways and Elleby never plays. It functionally doesn't change anything regrading minutes. Less depth maybe, but more quality depth. Hood also sucks, Bacon actually plays for the Magic and he's not bad.

I think we need Elleby to replace Trent JR when we don’t match. Elleby showed vs the Sixers that he’ll be ready next year imo.

 

[JoshuaHall]

I think we need Elleby to replace Trent JR when we don’t match. Elleby showed vs the Sixers that he’ll be ready next year imo.

I wish I had your faith and optimism

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think we need Elleby to replace Trent JR when we don’t match. Elleby showed vs the Sixers that he’ll be ready next year imo.

So Elleby is untouchable? He does have that potential and we don't quite know what we have in him yet.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[TBpup]

Sauces close to the Pup say the Blazers have had as much legitimate discussion regarding AG as any other team and more than most.

Trying to check with a couple other old contacts.

 

[Blazinaway]

Sauces close to the Pup say the Blazers have had as much legitimate discussion regarding AG as any other team and more than most.

Trying to check with a couple other old contacts.

Hold on the those shorts! Time flies doesn't it

 

[TBpup]

Talked to a couple others and they didn't really have much. One of them heard what sounds entirely true....that Olshey is wanting Gordon for scrap. One of them seems to think the Magic may actually want CJ. Can't see NeO doing that if that is what Orlando wants.

 

[illmatic99]

Talked to a couple others and they didn't really have much. One of them heard what sounds entirely true....that Olshey is wanting Gordon for scrap. One of them seems to think the Magic may actually want CJ. Can't see NeO doing that if that is what Orlando wants.

i mean he offered 2 firsts for gordon last yr. and AG's value has to have tanked since then.

they're smoking if they think they can get CJ for him

 

[BigGameDamian]

Talked to a couple others and they didn't really have much. One of them heard what sounds entirely true....that Olshey is wanting Gordon for scrap. One of them seems to think the Magic may actually want CJ. Can't see NeO doing that if that is what Orlando wants.

I'd like to know exactly what scrap is?

 

[Pinwheel1]

i mean he offered 2 firsts for gordon last yr. and AG's value has to have tanked since then.

they're smoking if they think they can get CJ for him

The numbers are off by 11 million so someone on their end would have to be included. How is Bamba looking these days? Not playing much. Issac would get it done, but I am guessing he is why they want to trade Gordon.

 

[jlprk]

Ok, well. In this deal, you are trading two guys that would play for two guys that would play. (Gordon, Bacon, Trent, Hood).

Collins is out for the season anyways and Elleby never plays. It functionally doesn't change anything regrading minutes. Less depth maybe, but more quality depth. Hood also sucks, Bacon actually plays for the Magic and he's not bad.

Dwayne Bacon would be let go after this season. In Value Over Replacement Player, he is last on the Magic.

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/NaQwg

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[illmatic99]

The numbers are off by 11 million so someone on their end would have to be included. How is Bamba looking these days? Not playing much. Issac would get it done, but I am guessing he is why they want to trade Gordon.

we're (ie Neil) not trading CJ for any combo of players from Orlando

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Zach and a future (protected) FRP?

Do it.

 

[illmatic99]

went thru that link. it's just an idea proposed by one of their writers.

 

[tester551]

I am fairly sure who the source of this rumor is...
Sounds a lot like this:

. One of them heard what sounds entirely true....that Olshey is wanting Gordon for scrap.

 

[LayneStaley]

If we can make a lineup of....

Dame
CJ
RoCo
Gordon
Nurk

Then do it. I’m sick of needing heroics to beat the Pels. Maybe it will work or maybe it won’t. I’d rather try to find out than not.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I’ve seen the Uncle Drew movie and the Orlando Magic win a playoff game every year but other than that, don’t know much about Gordon. Can he defend?

 

[wizenheimer]

I am fairly sure who the source of this rumor is...
Sounds a lot like this:

lol...yeah, that fits the definition of scrap. On the other hand, both Hood and Zach can be considered expiring contracts, and the Magic are only going to be 10-12M below the tax line next season; and that doesn't count Fournier

but from Portland's POV it doesn't work because it puts the Blazers about 800K over the tax line. And adding somebody like Giles, takes Portland down to 12 players, and that wouldn't be a legal trade IIRC.

 

[blazerkor]

I know

Talked to a couple others and they didn't really have much. One of them heard what sounds entirely true....that Olshey is wanting Gordon for scrap. One of them seems to think the Magic may actually want CJ. Can't see NeO doing that if that is what Orlando wants.

I know I'm solidly in the trade CJ camp but I'd do this deal. I know we're in the win now mode because of Dame but we could flip these picks, Hoodie and DJ for a big time SF.