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Someone hit a key point. If you watch San Antonio their style of play doesn't change when they go to the bench. All players rotate in and it is virutally seamless. If we loaded up our 2nd unit with guys drastically different in terms of style then our overall team efficiency goes down. If a player gets injured our system gets rocked.
 
Schilly said:
Someone hit a key point. If you watch San Antonio their style of play doesn't change when they go to the bench. All players rotate in and it is virutally seamless. If we loaded up our 2nd unit with guys drastically different in terms of style then our overall team efficiency goes down. If a player gets injured our system gets rocked.
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Yes, exactly. You can't just play Freeland or TRob behind LMA because neither is suitable for that style of play. You can kind of play Freeland behind Robin, though... this is why I'd love Frye or Hawes... someone with some range backing up LMA is right useful.
 
Trob + Hawes of the bench dynamically is similar to LMA + Robin
 
Eastoff said:
TRob still is orders of magnitude worse at defending the paint in the effective and boring way that Robin does.
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I think Stotts would go with a 2-man committee consisting of TRob and Freeland with Hawes. Find out which combo will be more effective.
 
Eastoff said:
TRob still is orders of magnitude worse at defending the paint in the effective and boring way that Robin does.
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Yes he is "still" much worse defensively than Lopez, but he's going into his third year. And as we all know, bigs take much longer to develop. What T-Rob "does" have is a beastly frame and motor to be aggressive. That's something you really can't teach. As his mind levels out with his frame, he will be a monster.

Plus this will be his first real summer knowing he's on the same team. I think he knows the city of Portland loves him and the moment he can improve on his game, he will be loved even more.
 
Adding anti year contract for Hawes scares me. You win with stars and all he does is eat into cap space next year.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Adding anti year contract for Hawes scares me. You win with stars and all he does is eat into cap space next year.
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If he's getting 10 mil a season, then you right on the money. I just don't think Hawes will get that type of offers, but if he does, then I doubt Blazer Brass would move on.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Adding anti year contract for Hawes scares me. You win with stars and all he does is eat into cap space next year.
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On an MLE deal Hawes can be easily moved at any time if need be.
 
Schilly said:
Someone hit a key point. If you watch San Antonio their style of play doesn't change when they go to the bench. All players rotate in and it is virutally seamless. If we loaded up our 2nd unit with guys drastically different in terms of style then our overall team efficiency goes down. If a player gets injured our system gets rocked.
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That has FAR less to do with subs being carbon copies of another player's style and FAR more to do with having a simple yet effective offensive system and a lot of players with high IQ.

They don't have another player with high post passing skills like Diaw. They don't have another real post threat other than Duncan. They, like us, don't have real PG's but rather just scorers that can shoot at wings and a 3 & D guy in Leonard.

Getting a passing/shooting big like Hawes/McRoberts would work well b/c it gives Stotts options. A guy like that can feed lamarcus on the block, compensate for poor distributors at guard if you want to play CJ and Barton, compensate for a poor shooter at another position if you want to play Barton or Robinson, etc. AND if he can guard the post, then he's a great fit with Robinson, who should be down low on offense and guarding the elbows/top of key on defense.
 
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Eastoff said:
TRob still is orders of magnitude worse at defending the paint in the effective and boring way that Robin does.
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I think Hawes would be down low and T-Rob would guard the 4's and jump out on pick n roll while Hawes stays home.
 
Eastoff said:
Hawes is not known for his defense.
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How many guys who are also are stretch-shooting big men with great passing skills? Not everyone can do everything. I think Hawes would be at least competent against bigs (many being backups) down low. He's got the size to body guys, never going to be an amazing help defender, but that's ok.
 
shamelessblazer said:
How many guys who are also are stretch-shooting big men with great passing skills? Not everyone can do everything. I think Hawes would be at least competent against bigs (many being backups) down low. He's got the size to body guys, never going to be an amazing help defender, but that's ok.
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Yep. If he was a great defender he would be priced out of our MLE range. If we can nab him, it's a huge boost to the bench. Whenever LA or Rolo had to sit down last season, the drop off in talent is just embarrassing.
 
His offense allows him to sub in for LaMarcus and get us some scoring off the bench while TRob, Freeland or Rolo protect the paint. We need bench scoring and ball movement when the starters rest. I think Hawes or McBob fit that bill pretty well.
 
McRoberts literally sucks at everything except passing (for a big man). I hope we don't get him.
 
B-Roy said:
McRoberts literally sucks at everything except passing (for a big man). I hope we don't get him.
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He was pretty good at being at defending physical big men in the playoffs. I'm still not enamored with him as a signing, but we could do worse (Kaman).
 
craigehlo said:
He was pretty good at being at defending physical big men in the playoffs. I'm still not enamored with him as a signing, but we could do worse (Kaman).
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Yeah, he was so good they got swept without even putting up much of a fight.
 
B-Roy said:
Yeah, he was so good they got swept without even putting up much of a fight.
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Al Jeff's injury and their overall crappy offense was a bigger factor.

[video=youtube;BtrSldo7zPw]
 
Schilly said:
Someone hit a key point. If you watch San Antonio their style of play doesn't change when they go to the bench. All players rotate in and it is virutally seamless. If we loaded up our 2nd unit with guys drastically different in terms of style then our overall team efficiency goes down. If a player gets injured our system gets rocked.
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I disagree up to a point. They have Splitter for one style of play and the Red Rocket for another. So we could have Lopez be our Splitter and Frye/Hawes be the outside gunner.

(Plus: Ginobili is unique. You're not telling me he does the same things as Danny Green?)
 
Hawes' defense against Dwight Howard. Though just a highlight out of thousands of clips where his defense wasn't great but this shows his defensive potential.

[video=youtube;z4i9aeDwSHc]
 
B-Roy said:
Wow, a highlight play. Now I'm convinced.
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Well, I watched a lot of the their first round, and McBob was very serviceable off the bench. His post-season stats:

11.5 ppg, 6.8 reb, .455 fg%, .471 3pt%
 
sol12 said:
Hawes' defense against Dwight Howard. Though just a highlight out of thousands of clips where his defense wasn't great but this shows his defensive potential.
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Very interesting! The Blazers are going to have to deal with D12 for the foreseeable future.
 
craigehlo said:
Well, I watched a lot of the their first round, and McBob was very serviceable off the bench. His post-season stats:

11.5 ppg, 6.8 reb, .455 fg%, .471 3pt%
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Dude averaged 10/5 per 36 as a starter on the season. I mean Holy shit, stats aren't everything but if he could barely produce as a starter I can't imagine what he could do as a bench player.
 
B-Roy said:
Dude averaged 10/5 per 36 as a starter on the season. I mean Holy shit, stats aren't everything but if he could barely produce as a starter I can't imagine what he could do as a bench player.
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He's a player that they hardly run any plays for. He's there to crash the board, play D and generally get the hell out of Al Jefferson's way. He would be a good compliment to LA in that respect.
 
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