Blazers offer 1yr, $8.8m Q.O.

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Well I expected this to happen but I'm still happy to hear the news, you never know.

When the new CBA is agreed on it'll be interesting to see how it effects the future direction of this team and Oden’s contract. If there is an amnesty provision this team could get out of Roy's contract so I think we'd be less willing to lockup Oden long-term as that would hinder our salary flexibility. Conversely if there is no amnesty, we could be stuck with Roy’s contract so having Oden on a big deal until Roy’s expiries may not hinder the team’s ability to add additional talent. If there is a hard cap we may be less willing to give Greg multiple years or large dollars. But if there is a provision to cut underperforming players from your cap that we could use on Greg down the road the team could roll the dice with him on a fat contract.

Maybe the team pushes Oden towards a one year deal so they can review a complete roster overhaul in summer of 2012 when Felton, Camby, Batum and possibly Wallace are free agents. Maybe there is a franchise player provision which would guarantee we’d be able to keep Oden if we so choose when he becomes an UFA. Then we'd have no fear of losing him, which I think is a driving force towards lots of fans hoping he gets a multi-year deal and even a max deal.

Very interesting indeed.
 
yeah there could very well be a provision that ensures we can keep him if we want in the new cba
 
Draco said:
Well I expected this to happen but I'm still happy to hear the news, you never know.

When the new CBA is agreed on it'll be interesting to see how it effects the future direction of this team and Oden’s contract. If there is an amnesty provision this team could get out of Roy's contract so I think we'd be less willing to lockup Oden long-term as that would hinder our salary flexibility. Conversely if there is no amnesty, we could be stuck with Roy’s contract so having Oden on a big deal until Roy’s expiries may not hinder the team’s ability to add additional talent. If there is a hard cap we may be less willing to give Greg multiple years or large dollars. But if there is a provision to cut underperforming players from your cap that we could use on Greg down the road the team could roll the dice with him on a fat contract.

Maybe the team pushes Oden towards a one year deal so they can review a complete roster overhaul in summer of 2012 when Felton, Camby, Batum and possibly Wallace are free agents. Maybe there is a franchise player provision which would guarantee we’d be able to keep Oden if we so choose when he becomes an UFA. Then we'd have no fear of losing him, which I think is a driving force towards lots of fans hoping he gets a multi-year deal and even a max deal.

Very interesting indeed.
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Great post and well thought out. Repped.
 
Shooter said:
What a world. Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.
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You know what would be even more ridiculous than that? Letting an asset like Greg go for nothing, after investing so much money in him, and then having him turn into a solid NBA player at his next destination.
 
Can somebody please now post what the next step and options are for both sides.
 
Minstrel said:
That's not at odds with negotiating a deal with Portland after the June 31 QO deadline. Whenever free agency happens, Oden can gauge league interest as a restricted free agent and then (if he wants) negotiate a new deal with Portland, armed with that information.
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There's no such thing as June 31st.
 
Non-Blazer boards are aghast in amazement that we didn't jump at the chance to rid ourselves of this albatross. They say our owner is an idiot. They don't know that it's the fans who demand this. Comments on the $8.8 million:

Why? He's not even worth $8.80.

He should leap at this offer. No, he might get injured.

Won't be back till January? Maybe not then. Jesus, they do heart surgery and you're home in 1-4 days.

"Oden" spelled backward is "injury."
 
Shooter said:
Oden has been constantly injured since he signed with Portland, has missed 2 entire seasons, and will never earn the money he's been paid for the last 4 years. But despite that, he now gets $9 million for one more season!!

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE'LL EVER PLAY AGAIN.
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We also don't even know if Dirk, LaBron, LA, Grant Hill, or Patty Mills will ever play again... tomorrow isn't promised to anyone.

Players get new contracts based on what it's speculated they're capable of. Portland extending a 9M one year contract indicates those in the know think he's capable of impacting the game in a big way.

STOMP
 
Doesn't matter....next season is going to be an abreviated fustercluck anyway. A one year deal is pretty low risk.

What does matter: when he again fails to give the team anything, and the new hard cap is strangling everyone, will the Blazers gut the team to give him a contract he hasn't earned?
 
jlprk said:
Non-Blazer boards are aghast in amazement that we didn't jump at the chance to rid ourselves of this albatross. They say our owner is an idiot. They don't know that it's the fans who demand this. Comments on the $8.8 million:

Why? He's not even worth $8.80.

He should leap at this offer. No, he might get injured.

Won't be back till January? Maybe not then. Jesus, they do heart surgery and you're home in 1-4 days.

"Oden" spelled backward is "injury."
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I think all NBA executives should base their decisions on opinions from the fans on opposing teams message board.
 
Tince said:
I think all NBA executives should base their decisions on opinions from the fans on opposing teams message board.
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Agreed. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for a fan of another team to pick any moronic opinions from our Blazers community... so it must be the case with all communities, right?

Ed O.
 
Shooter said:
Yep. I just wish I could get paid millions of dollars for not working.
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He is very well paid but, rehabbing is working. Hard work if he does it right.
 
He still owes us 160+ games we paid him for.

I think we should get those games before having to pay any more.

Who negotiated this stupid contract? Get that Guv from WI in here and let's straighten this clown out.
 
So, Greg will become an UFA next summer?

I don't see how this will go well for the Blazers. With all this pressure of being the #1 pick you know he's going to bolt.
 
If he is healthy next year, the fans will be happy, and he will be happy, and he will stay.

If he is not healthy next year, then the fans will not be happy, and he will not be happy, and he will bolt. And we won't care if he does.
 
STOMP said:
We also don't even know if Dirk, LaBron, LA, Grant Hill, or Patty Mills will ever play again... tomorrow isn't promised to anyone.
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Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James, and LaMarcus Aldridge have never missed a season in their careers, and you're comparing them to Greg Oden??


Players get new contracts based on what it's speculated they're capable of.
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In the case of Dirk Nowitzi, there's no speculation. In the case of Greg Oden, there's ONLY speculation.
 
gatorpops said:
He is very well paid but, rehabbing is working. Hard work if he does it right.
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Gee, if I took a whole year off from my job to "rehab" after a knee injury, my company wouldn't consider it "work"--and I certainly wouldn't get paid for it.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
So, Greg will become an UFA next summer?

I don't see how this will go well for the Blazers. With all this pressure of being the #1 pick you know he's going to bolt.
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Since Portland has tendered a QO to Greg , they are now free to negotiate a long term deal with him.
 
Shooter said:
Gee, if I took a whole year off from my job to "rehab" after a knee injury, my company wouldn't consider it "work"--and I certainly wouldn't get paid for it.
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Well, I imagine your knee isn't super important for your job. Oden's job this past year was to rehab his knee so that he can "work" sometime this coming season. And by all accounts he's been working really hard to do that job. Sorry if you don't think it's fair.
 
Shooter said:
Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James, and LaMarcus Aldridge have never missed a season in their careers, and you're comparing them to Greg Oden??
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again, health is a tenuous balance for everyone... or... tomorrow isn't promised to anyone. Should Portland's management have cut ties with Walton before the championship season because of his various health issues? Same deal with Sabas. Similarly should the Mavs have said adios to Jason Kidd for having undergone a micro-fracture on his knee? Was Cuban crazy for giving Tyson Chandler a big contract after the ongoing issues he's had with his back?

Hoops is a rough game and injuries do happen to pretty much every player. While frustration from fans over time missed is understandable, those in the know are speculating that Greg stands a very good chance of being healthy and dominant again in the near future. Those opinions are based on thorough medical evaluations not frustrated blind guesses. They are aware of all sorts of details about how his rehab is going that we just aren't.

The silver lining with Oden's injuries is that they're not expected to hinder his athleticism once he makes it back. Broken bones heal stronger then they were before and MF surgery has proven to be a solid long term fix. Management has made their decision... here's to them being proven right
:cheers:

STOMP
 
Good move, and one the Blazers had to make. What other fans on other message boards say doesn't and shouldn't matter. The Blazers just made another committment to Greg, and I hope there is some sort of abbreviated FA period (perhaps a CBA extension for a few weeks that is agreed to tonight?) so the Blazers can see what the market value is for Greg.
 
STOMP said:
Those in the know are speculating that Greg stands a very good chance of being healthy and dominant again in the near future.
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Speculating. Now there's a good use of the word.

Anyway, I hope they are right and I hope that Oden can finally start realizing his amazing potential. Nothing would make me happier.
 
Oden's knees are now bionic. He is the $8.8 million dollar man. Cue Lee Majors sound effect now.
 
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