Blazers Offer Roy Hibbert Max Contract

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Indy still has plenty of cap space even waiting on Hibbert's cap hold, so can't imagine the 3 day window tying up his hold will be a big concern to them.
 
FA smokescreens?

When Indy started asking around about other centers, I thought this was a smokescreen to the Blazers wanting them to thing
k that they don't intend to match. Indy's thinking being that if Blazers don't think Indy will match, they can leave any kind of poison pill term out of the contract

Now the word is out that Indy will likely match. So I would think PA and company are barinstorming on writing up a contract that would be unattractive to Indy. Dose this mean Indy really isn't planning on matching but wants Ptd to write up the worst contract just to stick it to the Blazers?

If I'm Indy and I plan on matching, I don't wnat the Blazers to know that. In fact I would want the Blazers to think Indy isn't matching in hopes of avoiding the poison pill term.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
FA smokescreens?

When Indy started asking around about other centers, I thought this was a smokescreen to the Blazers wanting them to thing
k that they don't intend to match. Indy's thinking being that if Blazers don't think Indy will match, they can leave any kind of poison pill term out of the contract

Now the word is out that Indy will likely match. So I would think PA and company are barinstorming on writing up a contract that would be unattractive to Indy. Dose this mean Indy really isn't planning on matching but wants Ptd to write up the worst contract just to stick it to the Blazers?

If I'm Indy and I plan on matching, I don't wnat the Blazers to know that. In fact I would want the Blazers to think Indy isn't matching in hopes of avoiding the poison pill term.
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Or maybe they want Portland to S&T to get some assets?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
FA smokescreens?

When Indy started asking around about other centers, I thought this was a smokescreen to the Blazers wanting them to thing
k that they don't intend to match. Indy's thinking being that if Blazers don't think Indy will match, they can leave any kind of poison pill term out of the contract

Now the word is out that Indy will likely match. So I would think PA and company are barinstorming on writing up a contract that would be unattractive to Indy. Dose this mean Indy really isn't planning on matching but wants Ptd to write up the worst contract just to stick it to the Blazers?

If I'm Indy and I plan on matching, I don't wnat the Blazers to know that. In fact I would want the Blazers to think Indy isn't matching in hopes of avoiding the poison pill term.
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I'm not sure a poison pill really matters much to PA, though, so the Blazers may as well draw up the contract as if Indy will match it. Do everything legal under the CBA to make it as unattractive from a matching viewpoint as possible.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
FA smokescreens?

When Indy started asking around about other centers, I thought this was a smokescreen to the Blazers wanting them to thing
k that they don't intend to match. Indy's thinking being that if Blazers don't think Indy will match, they can leave any kind of poison pill term out of the contract

Now the word is out that Indy will likely match. So I would think PA and company are barinstorming on writing up a contract that would be unattractive to Indy. Dose this mean Indy really isn't planning on matching but wants Ptd to write up the worst contract just to stick it to the Blazers?

If I'm Indy and I plan on matching, I don't wnat the Blazers to know that. In fact I would want the Blazers to think Indy isn't matching in hopes of avoiding the poison pill term.
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Where's this word from Indy coming from? Last couple of local Indy guys we've heard anything from says they don't think Indy matches.
 
PapaG said:
Except the Indy's cap space will be tied up on Hibbert so long as they don't match, and they lose that space if they do match.

3 days is a long time to tie up money in what looks like it will be a crazy FA period.
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Yep. Free Agents are already dropping like flies with verbal committments (which are rarely broken).

And this is unusual in that so often the key free agent (Deron Williams this cycle) is the domino that must drop before most other activity happens. This year, most teams are ignoring Deron Williams and gettin' busy.

Indiana will most likely know if they want to match the Blazers offer by July 11th.

They HAVE to decide very soon. Because if they don't want to match, they need to start making verbal offers to free agents in the next few days.

If they are NOT going to match, I think they won't wait til the end of the 3 day period, so they can sign the few remaining decent free agents out there.

If they go to the 3rd day before we hear anything, then that could mean a lot of things:

They are going to match, and they are holding up our cap space to fuck with us.

They aren't going to match, and they don't want to make offers to any other free agents.

They weren't sure they wanted to match, they wanted to sign some cheaper free agents or make a lopsided trade, but couldn't find anything, and now they are agonizing over changing their mind to match.
 
RR7 said:
Indy still has plenty of cap space even waiting on Hibbert's cap hold, so can't imagine the 3 day window tying up his hold will be a big concern to them.
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Even after their offer to Hill?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
FA smokescreens?

When Indy started asking around about other centers, I thought this was a smokescreen to the Blazers wanting them to thing
k that they don't intend to match. Indy's thinking being that if Blazers don't think Indy will match, they can leave any kind of poison pill term out of the contract

Now the word is out that Indy will likely match. So I would think PA and company are barinstorming on writing up a contract that would be unattractive to Indy. Dose this mean Indy really isn't planning on matching but wants Ptd to write up the worst contract just to stick it to the Blazers?

If I'm Indy and I plan on matching, I don't wnat the Blazers to know that. In fact I would want the Blazers to think Indy isn't matching in hopes of avoiding the poison pill term.
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I would bet that today Indiana doesn't know for sure what they will do. So how can folks that are not the GM and the owner have any real clue.
 
Quick mentioned that the Blazers asked for secrecy with the coaching search, so I doubt we hear anything until the offer a guy the job.
 
John Canzano: Kravitz said if Hibbert isn't retained, fans will descend upon the arena with torches. 750am now 3 minutes ago
 
John Canzano: Bob Kravitz, Indy Star, said on @750thegame that he talked to Donnie Walsh today, "I think it's 80-90 percent they match." about 5 minutes ago
 
Masbee said:
I would bet that today Indiana doesn't know for sure what they will do. So how can folks that are not the GM and the owner have any real clue.
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I would take you up on that bet . . . if there was some way to prove it. :)

But really, the deal isn't going to change in a week, a decision will have to be made, why not make it now so they can decide how to proceed from there.

I know there are still the details in the contract, and I could only hope it comes down to the that, but I'm guessing Indy already has a pretty good idea what they are going to do. They should anyways . . .
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So.... Plan B?
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I can picture the press conference now:

“All along Joel Freeland was our #1 choice at starting center; we just didn’t think we’d be lucky enough to have the opportunity to bring him over from Spain.”
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would say possibly Gordon.
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Well, NO said they'd match any deal for Gordon, but I don't buy it.

That being said.... they Blazers would have to tell Gordon (and get him to agree), "Hey, Eric, look. We love you. We committed our cash on Roy, but given that it looks like Indy will match, if you're still hanging out, we're spending our cash on you."
 
I'm moving to Indy permanently for a job this week. If we do steal him, trying to make friends as a Blazer fan should be fun.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So.... Plan B?
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Do you think info from a writer is going to change what the Blazers do? I would be shocked to hear any differently at this point especially since the offer hasn't even been signed yet. Much like the Blazers will do with Batum if they are going to sign it then I think they will make arrangements beforehand to not sign the offer if they have other free agents they want to go after.
 
I don't know about Plan B, but I think Plan C is punt, swing for the lottery, mix a few metaphores, and save cap space for the trade deadline or next year's free agency. Hey, isn't that where we started?
 
BBert said:
I don't know about Plan B, but I think Plan C is punt, swing for the lottery, mix a few metaphores, and save cap space for the trade deadline or next year's free agency. Hey, isn't that where we started?
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I think that is plan B. Olshey wants guys that will "move the needle" and I don't think Hawes or Kaman do that. They may make a run at Gordon if he hasn't made a decision by the time this sorts out but I don't think there will be a lot of impact guys left at that point.
 
BBert said:
I don't know about Plan B, but I think Plan C is punt, swing for the lottery, mix a few metaphores, and save cap space for the trade deadline or next year's free agency. Hey, isn't that where we started?
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I think Plan C will be to wait to see who is amnestied, or offer a trade to teams who are thinking about amnestying a plan.
 
Jason Quick: Hawes figures to be Blazers' Plan B if Indiana matches Hibbert deal. Philly likes Hawes, but is also trying to re-sign Lou Williams 4 minutes ago
 
Jason Quick: Agent Greg Lawrence says Blazers have shown interest in unrestricted free agent Spencer Hawes about 8 minutes ago
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
True . . . but this could get personal between PA and KP. ?
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interesting!

We never really found out why KP was fired right? Blazer brass kept a closed mouth on this.

So if KP wants to f*#k with PA, perhaps PA just might have a very big secret that he'll let out of the bag??

Let's see who gets "slapped" - - -
 
Plan B: Eric Gordon. Is he still available? Any chance N.O. might not match? If yes to both, contact his agent.

Plan C: Call everybody looking for lopsided trades using our cap space for that "move the needle" (but likely overpaid) player.

Plan D: Fill out the roster with the best players you can get (except not a PG or PF who wants to start) who will sign one and two year deals so you can set up to possibly have cap space again in 2014.
 
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