My theory on why Hibbert will come to Portland next year

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Not gonna lie I had the same thought, but Damn I feel so bad about Paul it feels wrong .
 
HailBlazers said:
Not gonna lie I had the same thought, but Damn I feel so bad about Paul it feels wrong .
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Yes, but I am very optimistic for him. With medical technology what it is today there is hope that he can come back and be the player he can be. You saw it with Livingston, you see it with d rose. I hope George is able to recover from this!
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
Yes, but I am very optimistic for him. With medical technology what it is today there is hope that he can come back and be the player he can be. You saw it with Livingston, you see it with d rose. I hope George is able to recover from this!
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I agree but think he's more likely going to miss a season and a half or two but he's young and strong. That's a good thing.
 
HailBlazers said:
Not gonna lie I had the same thought, but Damn I feel so bad about Paul it feels wrong .
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If he is out a season and a half to two years, I could see Indy go in a different direction and move Hibbert. But if they made that decision I can only see it being a rebuild job in which I think they would be looking for picks or young assets. Exactly, who does Portland have that would excite them in an exchange?
 
OneLifeToLive said:
If he is out a season and a half to two years, I could see Indy go in a different direction and move Hibbert. But if they made that decision I can only see it being a rebuild job in which I think they would be looking for picks or young assets. Exactly, who does Portland have that would excite them in an exchange?
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No one would give up anything unless he was willing to re sign. Basically he stays put or goes where he wants to in a random trade or playing it not and walking.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
No one would give up anything unless he was willing to re sign. Basically he stays put or goes where he wants to in a random trade or playing it not and walking.
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You're one that thinks it's a possibility that he comes to Portland. Do you think it will be via trade or free agency and what do you think they give up if it's a trade?
 
OneLifeToLive said:
If he is out a season and a half to two years, I could see Indy go in a different direction and move Hibbert. But if they made that decision I can only see it being a rebuild job in which I think they would be looking for picks or young assets. Exactly, who does Portland have that would excite them in an exchange?
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Well, Lopez for one. He's way better than anything else they would get for him.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
You're one that thinks it's a possibility that he comes to Portland. Do you think it will be via trade or free agency and what do you think they give up if it's a trade?
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I don't think they give up anything, they know they don't have to. Which pretty much eliminates a trade. I don't think they could make that work salary wise without messing with the s5.

I definitely think it happens via FA. Unless another team makes a play on Hibbert, and it turns into a serious threat. If that were to happen I think the staff would evaluate their standing with their current players and soon to be FAs (nic, Wes, Rolo) and look at moving someone that isn't fully committed to the teams plan for the future.
 
I'm wondering how much less than max we could get Hibbert for. He's definitely an upgrade over Rolo, but how much of an upgrade? Is he a big enough upgrade to make it worth losing Wes to get?
 
ebott said:
I'm wondering how much less than max we could get Hibbert for. He's definitely an upgrade over Rolo, but how much of an upgrade? Is he a big enough upgrade to make it worth losing Wes to get?
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I wouldn't be surprised if we lose Wes regardless. He could end up being a consolation signing, and could get more than we are willing to give. I think you can place Barton in at the two and retain a similar scrappy, go for it defender, instead of Wes. It would come down to Wes or Rolo anyways, and I would rather have the depth at the 5.
 
There is no way I'd trade Wes or Rolo for Hibbert. Roy had the most inconsistently productive NBA seasons in history. He had multiple games of zero points and zero rebounds in the playoffs. Atlanta exposed him as a player that not only can be ineffective but also a total liability on the court. Now it's short sided to ignore all of his upside but its just as short sided to ignore his downside.

I'd be interested in having him as a complementary bit player. He could not be pencilled in for production at a position as well as Wes or Rolo can. That makes Hibbert a backup or a gamble as a starter for a team without a reliable option.
 
blue9 said:
Possibly something like this? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n2c83cm
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He had a good year last year. But do you think Rolo moved his perceived value across the NBA last year with other GM's? We saw what he did for the franchise and LA. But did that impact translate across the league?... Would KP, Bird seriously think that Rolo would be worthy compensation for Roy Hibbert?
 
As an example of perceived value. I would bet that Neil valued Robin a lot more than a lot of other GMs did last year at that same time. I know he valued him a lot more than many of us in here did.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
He had a good year last year. But do you think Rolo moved his perceived value across the NBA last year with other GM's? We saw what he did for the franchise and LA. But did that impact translate across the league?... Would KP, Bird seriously think that Rolo would be worthy compensation for Roy Hibbert?
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I don't see it as Rolo = Hibbert. I DO think Rolo's value went up, but not to the point where he's on the same level as Hibbert. I think CJ is the point of the trade, from IND's perspective. Rolo & Wright keep them a viable team in the East - if that's what they're interested in - as they fill the roles of Hibbert and George. Basically they're value-replacements. CJ gives them a young player with promise while they wait (and hope) for George to come back, and a hedge in case he doesn't come back as the same player. With George out they can use the entire season to groom CJ as their primary scoring option.
 
You'd have to shoot Rolo before he would have no rebounds in a playoff game. Rolo may not be as talented as Hibbert but he has more heart and desire.
 
Draco said:
There is no way I'd trade Wes or Rolo for Hibbert. Roy had the most inconsistently productive NBA seasons in history. He had multiple games of zero points and zero rebounds in the playoffs. Atlanta exposed him as a player that not only can be ineffective but also a total liability on the court. Now it's short sided to ignore all of his upside but its just as short sided to ignore his downside.

I'd be interested in having him as a complementary bit player. He could not be pencilled in for production at a position as well as Wes or Rolo can. That makes Hibbert a backup or a gamble as a starter for a team without a reliable option.
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How many teams have a center who can shoot the three? Thats what killed Hibbert is he couldn't stay close to the paint and isn't fast enough to move from near the 3 point line to the basket. His value doesn't come from his stats but the fact he is a brick wall near the Basket. He is an amazing defensive player but won't really put up stats and thats kind of what we need. It would be a risk but just having him on the court would make our D so much better since we seem to love having players take layups against us.
Trading for Hibbert is a boom or bust deal, if it works we become much better defensively if it doesn't then we lose at least one key piece and have little to no great assets to make moves to plug up the sinking ship.
 
Merge this thread with the Aldridge did request a trade thread?
 
ebott said:
I'm wondering how much less than max we could get Hibbert for. He's definitely an upgrade over Rolo, but how much of an upgrade? Is he a big enough upgrade to make it worth losing Wes to get?
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Well, he has two more years on his contract with the final season being a player option, so I assume you're meaning after the 2015-16 season, at the earliest. If he's had injuries or lowered production, I think he'll get much lower than the max should he choose to opt out, but if that's the case, he may as well exercise his option and make another $16m for 2016-17.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Because that's probably what it's going to come down to for Aldridge to stay.
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Merging this thread with the Trade LMA thread is what it's going to come down to for Aldridge to stay? Let's not let the "official" Blazer forum thing go to our heads, people.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Because that's probably what it's going to come down to for Aldridge to stay.
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Hibbert being shopped hard.

Tried to get Dragic, now trying to get Monroe. There should be a three-or-four-team trade involving Monroe, Bledsoe and Hibbert.

Trying to think what would be the best team for Hibbert. The Knicks, maybe? No, it's Phil time, not Riley time. Maybe Cleveland? That would be pretty amazing.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Hibbert being shopped hard.

Tried to get Dragic, now trying to get Monroe. There should be a three-or-four-team trade involving Monroe, Bledsoe and Hibbert.

Trying to think what would be the best team for Hibbert. The Knicks, maybe? No, it's Phil time, not Riley time. Maybe Cleveland? That would be pretty amazing.
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To watch the fireworks as Hibbert decimates another locker room? Yes, I agree.
 
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