Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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Can one of you explain the enthusiasm, please? We had a plan and this is most definitely not the plan.
 
Propagandist said:
Can one of you explain the enthusiasm, please? We had a plan and this is most definitely not the plan.
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And what was the plan you thought we had?

Did you see the excitement of Billups & the others when we got Sharpe? That, to me says volumes about their plan.

High upside but some bust potential. I’m in.

Rather that than Zach Collins who had decent potential but also had bust potential.

Would you rather have traded for OG who has missed a ton of games the past two years?

Yes, we may strike out but I’m excited that we may have a future star as compared to trading for another solid role-player.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
And what was the plan you thought we had?

Did you see the excitement of Billups & the others when we got Sharpe? That, to me says volumes about their plan.

High upside but some bust potential. I’m in.

Rather that than Zach Collins who had decent potential but also had bust potential.

Would you rather have traded for OG who has missed a ton of games the past two years?

Yes, we may strike out but I’m excited that we may have a future star as compared to trading for another solid role-player.
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GTFO outta here with your positivity, FAMS!

:NOTMARIS:
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
And what was the plan you thought we had?

Did you see the excitement of Billups & the others when we got Sharpe? That, to me says volumes about their plan.

High upside but some bust potential. I’m in.

Rather that than Zach Collins who had decent potential but also had bust potential.

Would you rather have traded for OG who has missed a ton of games the past two years?

Yes, we may strike out but I’m excited that we may have a future star as compared to trading for another solid role-player.
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The plan, as Cronin said, was to build around Dame and be competitive. Explain how this does that. Anyone, please.

And I didn’t say anything about OG, but obviously that would have been amazing. And look into why he missed games instead of just reading the numbers.
 
Propagandist said:
The plan, as Cronin said, was to build around Dame and be competitive. Explain how this does that. Anyone, please.

And I didn’t say anything about OG, but obviously that would have been amazing. And look into why he missed games instead of just reading the numbers.
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Taking, who a lot of “experts”, think is the most talented player with the highest ceiling in the draft could be a great thing
 
Propagandist said:
The plan, as Cronin said, was to build around Dame and be competitive. Explain how this does that. Anyone, please.

And I didn’t say anything about OG, but obviously that would have been amazing. And look into why he missed games instead of just reading the numbers.
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I get it, I was excited in a different way about OG. That being said, this is the person in this draft with Paolo, Chet, Ivey, Jabari etc. who has the highest ceiling. He was and has been the number one ranked prospect for next year's draft class until he reclassified and went to Kentucky in January. So we're getting the closest thing anyone has had in a while to a guy straight out of high school except he got to be coached by Calipari for a few months. I'm really excited to see him play in summer league where he'll either dominate and make me think he'll contribute right away or I think he'll at least show flashes of brilliance that will make me think he's an exciting developmental player.

I'm not ruling out the chance that he takes over the starting SF spot from Nas by the end of the season, if a different player isn't acquired for that role. He's definitely a shot maker and a threat at the rim (both getting there himself and cutting), so he might hang in the super sixth man/instant offense role for a season or two. Mostly, if we're going to stick with Dame for the rest of his career (which I think is the only plan any of us can point to Cronin having publicly stated) this might be the beginning of the end for Ant here. I think we will see Ant signed to a reasonable contract and that announced Thursday afternoon. I think he'll be featured heavily early in the season and if Shaedon is picking things up quickly, especially defensively, I think we could see Ant moved as soon as the trade deadline this upcoming season or next summer. I think it all depends on if Shaedon is a force on defense. If he is, he's just a much better fit next to Dame than Dame has ever had.
 
Strenuus said:
Do you realistically expect a guy who hasn't played a meaningful minute outside of high school to just... Get it?

I'm just being realistic. It's asinine to think he'll be a contributor this year.
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It happens. It’s rare…but it happens.

I’d expect him to contribute equal to that of his peers selected near him. Perhaps better.

Never know, with significant minutes on a decent team, he could be ROY.

Time will tell
 
No risk no reward, glad we took the chance/risk on Sharpe, other trade for players like OG did not work out and glad we did not overpay and Dame is apparently fully onboard with this pick, works for me
 
Ny is blowing it up. Sign and trade Ant for Randle?

Dame
Hart
Grant
Randle
Nurk

Nas
Sharpe
Winslow
Watford
Ingles


Use the EBEC to bring in a back up big.
I would consider that a homerun offseason aNd put Joe up for GM of the year.
 
blazerkor said:
I get it, I was excited in a different way about OG. That being said, this is the person in this draft with Paolo, Chet, Ivey, Jabari etc. who has the highest ceiling. He was and has been the number one ranked prospect for next year's draft class until he reclassified and went to Kentucky in January. So we're getting the closest thing anyone has had in a while to a guy straight out of high school except he got to be coached by Calipari for a few months. I'm really excited to see him play in summer league where he'll either dominate and make me think he'll contribute right away or I think he'll at least show flashes of brilliance that will make me think he's an exciting developmental player.

I'm not ruling out the chance that he takes over the starting SF spot from Nas by the end of the season, if a different player isn't acquired for that role. He's definitely a shot maker and a threat at the rim (both getting there himself and cutting), so he might hang in the super sixth man/instant offense role for a season or two. Mostly, if we're going to stick with Dame for the rest of his career (which I think is the only plan any of us can point to Cronin having publicly stated) this might be the beginning of the end for Ant here. I think we will see Ant signed to a reasonable contract and that announced Thursday afternoon. I think he'll be featured heavily early in the season and if Shaedon is picking things up quickly, especially defensively, I think we could see Ant moved as soon as the trade deadline this upcoming season or next summer. I think it all depends on if Shaedon is a force on defense. If he is, he's just a much better fit next to Dame than Dame has ever had.
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Beginning of the end for Ant???? Slow down first off Ant is probably going to end up being a PG, 2nd Ant showed signs of being a star (while playing in the NBA) where as Sharpe hasn’t even played one college game or G league game in a year. I hope they both work out to be stars and as Dame ages these two guys lead us into the next 10-12 years. The guy who’s spot he could take would be Hart and I would love for that to happen not because I don’t like Hart but that would mean Sharpe us better than Hart
 
Propagandist said:
The plan, as Cronin said, was to build around Dame and be competitive. Explain how this does that. Anyone, please.

And I didn’t say anything about OG, but obviously that would have been amazing. And look into why he missed games instead of just reading the numbers.
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Sharpe has the most upside of any player in the draft. He was better than anyone else we could have drafted there and better than anyone we could have gotten in a trade. With great ability comes wins. This is how that does that.
 
I think some people are missing a few things.

1. Dame's getting older. His career probably isn't ending after this season or after next. He's got several years of high level play left in him, in all likelihood.

2. Trading for an established player might make the Blazers slightly better in the short run, but none of those linked with the Blazers were going to make them a real contender in 2022-23. Some people are getting so worried about the upcoming season when we might actually have taken a big, practical step to being a true contender in 2-3 years.

I think one has to ask themselves if you'd rather have three decent seasons or two seasons with maybe 5 fewer wins and then a deep playoff run with a chance at a title in the third year. The latter puts us closer to the goal than the former, and we're still a competitive team in either case.
 
At the moment I'm really wishing we'd taken Daniels. He's a better fit with Dame and Ant, he's a better defender and a better passer. The Athletic draft guide has him ranked higher and says he "outperformed Josh Giddey at lower levels in Australia". He grew from 6'6" to 6'8" this year. And he's a point guard!

Meanwhile the same guide compares Sharpe to Terrence Ross.

Here's hoping they're wrong...
 
PCmor7 said:
Sharpe has the most upside of any player in the draft. He was better than anyone else we could have drafted there and better than anyone we could have gotten in a trade. With great ability comes wins. This is how that does that.
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A depressingly large number of players still have great "upside" even as they fall out of the NBA into obscurity.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think some people are missing a few things.

1. Dame's getting older. His career probably isn't ending after this season or after next. He's got several years of high level play left in him, in all likelihood.

2. Trading for an established player might make the Blazers slightly better in the short run, but none of those linked with the Blazers were going to make them a real contender in 2022-23. Some people are getting so worried about the upcoming season when we might actually have taken a big, practical step to being a true contender in 2-3 years.

I think one has to ask themselves if you'd rather have three decent seasons or two seasons with maybe 5 fewer wins and then a deep playoff run with a chance at a title in the third year. The latter puts us closer to the goal than the former, and we're still a competitive team in either case.
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Trading for OG wasn't a horrible idea, but at right price.

But trading the 7th pick seems to just be perpetual kicking the can down the road.


Honestly, not sure if OG (at the cost of the pick) puts them in a significantly better place than the potential ceiling of Shaedon.

OG to me has a oladipo vibe to me, in that we should let someone else make that trade and over pay for him.
 
julius said:
Trading for OG wasn't a horrible idea, but at right price.

But trading the 7th pick seems to just be perpetual kicking the can down the road.


Honestly, not sure if OG (at the cost of the pick) puts them in a significantly better place than the potential ceiling of Shaedon.

OG to me has a oladipo vibe to me, in that we should let someone else make that trade and over pay for him.
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OG's a good player, but yeah, he's not the needle-mover that Sharpe has the potential to be, and the Raptors wanted a king's ransom for him.

If the Blazers sign Jalen Smith AND they drafted Sharpe, that's a lot better than trading for OG. A lot better. Better now. Better over the next few years.
 
PCmor7 said:
2. Trading for an established player might make the Blazers slightly better in the short run, but none of those linked with the Blazers were going to make them a real contender in 2022-23. Some people are getting so worried about the upcoming season when we might actually have taken a big, practical step to being a true contender in 2-3 years.
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Then why trade for Grant? Why trade a future asset for a "win now" player (who won't actually help that much) and then turn around and draft a guy who even if the hype is real is years from contributing?
 
riverman said:
Well in the second round we got a Center and a Power Forward...so with Sharpe hopefully our bench got much better. Sharpe can jump out of the gym.
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Yeah but how does do they fit on Dames timeline? Or maybe we already have enough for a championship?
 
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