Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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Scalma said:
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I should start a poll and demand an explanation to the answers. What would be your reason for not making this move?

It would bring in a star in a position of need, it balances the roster, fits the Dame/Nurk/Grant timeline much better. Etc.

Seems like a no brainer to me?
 
oldmangrouch said:
Then why trade for Grant? Why trade a future asset for a "win now" player (who won't actually help that much) and then turn around and draft a guy who even if the hype is real is years from contributing?
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I wanted Grant for the TPE (and Milwaukee's pick) and Sochan at #7. A PF for now and a PF for the future. Now that was based on thinking Sharpe would be gone by the time we picked. Regardless why not cover your ass by getting someone now to help immediately and a player who you can be patient with? I thought it made perfect sense.

Plus Grant is young enough to play for Portland for another 4 years. I know we all tend to prefer if we could set up the perfect team (at every position) that we can roll with for the next decade, but in reality, 4 years is probably the most realistic time frame. (Injuries have a way of screwing those long term plans up)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I wanted Grant for the TPE (and Milwaukee's pick) and Sochan at #7. A PF for now and a PF for the future. Now that was based on thinking Sharpe would be gone by the time we picked. Regardless why not cover your ass by getting someone now to help immediately and a player who you can be patient with? I thought it made perfect sense.

Plus Grant is young enough to play for Portland for another 4 years. I know we all tend to prefer if we could set up the perfect team (at every position) that we can roll with for the next decade, but in reality, 4 years is probably the most realistic time frame. (Injuries have a way of screwing those long term plans up)
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Grant's looming contract negotiations could also screw up any long term plan.
 
BlazerBender said:
I should start a poll and demand an explanation to the answers. What would be your reason for not making this move?

It would bring in a star in a position of need, it balances the roster, fits the Dame/Nurk/Grant timeline much better. Etc.

Seems like a no brainer to me?
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Someone posted a chart recently about Grant's playing time. He very rarely plays any position but PF - which makes he and Randle pretty redundant.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Someone posted a chart recently about Grant's playing time. He very rarely plays any position but PF - which makes he and Randle pretty redundant.
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Thanks. I didn't see the chart. Is that due to his situation in detroit playing him out of position by chance? From what i have heard is he is likely better as a SF?
 
Propagandist said:
The plan, as Cronin said, was to build around Dame and be competitive. Explain how this does that. Anyone, please.

And I didn’t say anything about OG, but obviously that would have been amazing. And look into why he missed games instead of just reading the numbers.
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Dame needs another star to go far.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Then why trade for Grant? Why trade a future asset for a "win now" player (who won't actually help that much) and then turn around and draft a guy who even if the hype is real is years from contributing?
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cronin is trying to thread a needle of attempting to compete while also keeping in mind a path for long term success. It's very similar to what Toronto did in paying and not trading Van Vleet and Siakam, while also prioritizing development time for Barnes.

Grant, a healthy Dame, an improved Ant, and Hart/Nurk/Nas etc gets us to a 45 win team. We can elevate that projection with hits using our MLE/BAE. In two years when Sharpe is ready, we potentially have a player to either keep or trade for another star that could move us up a tier.

It was the kind of swing for the fences that this team has not taken in a decade. I applaud the effort.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Then why trade for Grant? Why trade a future asset for a "win now" player (who won't actually help that much) and then turn around and draft a guy who even if the hype is real is years from contributing?
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Contributing off the bench shouldn't take years.
 
BlazerBender said:
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I would like Randle if we had a more athletic 5 but not with Nurk and not displacing another 4 to play the 3. If we were going away from Nurk then I think if the Knicks are getting Ant... even in a S&T they would have to send us draft picks. They don't love Randle's contract after the way Randle was trending last season and I think everyone in the league likes the way Ant is trending.
 
Yeah I get it. Probably just a head coach pumping up one of his players. But Cal is not the first to say this.




Dan Wetzel
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John Calipari said had Shaedon Sharpe chosen to play college ball next season, he would have been the 2023 No. 1 overall pick. Cal has coached four No. 1 selections, so he may know of what he speaks. If so, incredible for Portland.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah I get it. Probably just a head coach pumping up one his players. But Cal is not the first to say this.




Dan Wetzel
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John Calipari said had Shaedon Sharpe chosen to play college ball next season, he would have been the 2023 No. 1 overall pick. Cal has coached four No. 1 selections, so he may know of what he speaks. If so, incredible for Portland.
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he's been saying this for a few months now.


 
blazerkor said:
I would like Randle if we had a more athletic 5 but not with Nurk and not displacing another 4 to play the 3. If we were going away from Nurk then I think if the Knicks are getting Ant... even in a S&T they would have to send us draft picks. They don't love Randle's contract after the way Randle was trending last season and I think everyone in the league likes the way Ant is trending.
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I am invested in Ant. Love the kid. Buuut, if the return balances the roster and puts another star next to Dame? Draft picks back would be good too but i figured them eating EBEC was the punishment for that contract. :)

I admit im thinking off the cusp now. I jsut dont see us running with Dame/Hart/Ant/Sharpe long term. Too much overlap of talent in the same position.

To me Dame and Hart is perfect. So where does Ant land long term verses Sharpe?

I just think something is going to/has to give here.
Sharpe wont net what Ant will so to me its a sign and tradeAnt for a star in a position of need.
 
illmatic99 said:
cronin is trying to thread a needle of attempting to compete while also keeping in mind a path for long term success. It's very similar to what Toronto did in paying and not trading Van Vleet and Siakam, while also prioritizing development time for Barnes.

Grant, a healthy Dame, an improved Ant, and Hart/Nurk/Nas etc gets us to a 45 win team. We can elevate that projection with hits using our MLE/BAE. In two years when Sharpe is ready, we potentially have a player to either keep or trade for another star that could move us up a tier.

It was the kind of swing for the fences that this team has not taken in a decade. I applaud the effort.
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I don't fully agree, but I understand your feelings on the matter.
 
BlazerBender said:
I am invested in Ant. Love the kid. Buuut, if the return balances the roster and puts another star next to Dame? Draft picks back would be good too but i figured them eating EBEC was the punishment for that contract. :)

I admit im thinking off the cusp now. I jsut dont see us running with Dame/Hart/Ant/Sharpe long term. Too much overlap of talent in the same position.

To me Dame and Hart is perfect. So where does Ant land long term verses Sharpe?

I just think something is going to/has to give here.
Sharpe wont net what Ant will so to me its a sign and tradeAnt for a star in a position of need.
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If Sharpe is coming along quickly, we will likely look to trade Ant at the deadline... if Ant is being paid north of 20M. If Sharpe still isn't ready for major minutes I think Ant stays until he is. I don't love the idea of Dame/Ant but I want to give it a try. If Dame and Ant can defend and are complementary on offense then maybe Sharpe's future is at SF starting with both guys.
 
illmatic99 said:
i think your feelings will change once you see Sharpe in summer league.
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Not trying to be a contrarian here, but summer league is such no-defense-rat-ball I'm not sure it will tell us much more than that he is (hopefully) healthy, in good shape, and is a good athlete. That's important, but doesn't address my concerns.
 
BlazerBender said:
Thanks. I didn't see the chart. Is that due to his situation in detroit playing him out of position by chance? From what i have heard is he is likely better as a SF?
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I don't honestly know. The conventional wisdom seems to be that he is not a very good rebounder for a PF, but that that is where his defensive value lies.:dunno:
 
blazerkor said:
If Sharpe is coming along quickly, we will likely look to trade Ant at the deadline... if Ant is being paid north of 20M. If Sharpe still isn't ready for major minutes I think Ant stays until he is. I don't love the idea of Dame/Ant but I want to give it a try. If Dame and Ant can defend and are complementary on offense then maybe Sharpe's future is at SF starting with both guys.
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Sorry. Not sold. I think we need Hart’s dawg style next to Dame. I don't see how starting Dame Ant and Sharpe helps improve our size compared to Dame/CJ/Powell?
 
Scalma said:
he better hope sharpe sucks because there’s also a quote about how excited they were that Portland took sharpe instead of Daniels. Would hate for that to age poorly. That would suck!
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i actually like daniels. but this stuff is going to make me root against him.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
It's nothing personal. He's just not good. Plus it looks like his personality is terrible. The Knicks would LOVE to dump him.
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His numbers seem to say he is good though?
I think they want to dump him because they have no one to put with him and want to go full rebuild. His salary is obviously bloated.
 
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