Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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blazerkor said:
If Sharpe is coming along quickly, we will likely look to trade Ant at the deadline... if Ant is being paid north of 20M. If Sharpe still isn't ready for major minutes I think Ant stays until he is. I don't love the idea of Dame/Ant but I want to give it a try. If Dame and Ant can defend and are complementary on offense then maybe Sharpe's future is at SF starting with both guys.
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Yes the lineup you want to succeed is

Dame
Ant
Sharpe
Grant
Nurk

With Hart, Nas, Watford, Winslow, GBIII, Walker off the bench. That would be ideal. I'm also fine with Sharpe being our SF off the bench and Nas starting, but if we want a shot at a ring we need Sharpe to become the SF we need.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So yes, the front office was not able to actually complete their plan A, but they have to pretend like this was plan A all along, and most of the current optimists wanted this to be plan A, so of course they're going to be excited.

I think looking at it this way, the optimism that many are showing does in fact make sense, even though this wasn't the plan.
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Perhaps management always strongly suspected that building an instant contender with their available assets and roster was the total pipedream so many of us did, but they also knew that their aging superstar wanted to know that they were exploring every option? So they proceed to confirm the obvious, running the various meh scenarios they uncovered by him so that he can be on board with when they pivot to their actual plan A... building for the future.

STOMP
 
oldmangrouch said:
Don't know if you have seen it, but SI ran a report speculating he actually sat out the past season due to some kind of injury. I see no evidence that is true. He seems 100% healthy and to have the physical talent to be an NBA player.
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The only evidence I could maybe point to is that he repeatedly said he spent the last year getting his body right.
 
If they were going to trade Sharpe I think they would have at least delayed the presser. He was on his way to Portland 24hrs after the draft.

I suspect Ant in a sign and trade with other assets - pick package similar to what the Lakers sent out for AD.
 
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Fez Forthright said:
If they were going to trade Sharpe I think they would have at least delayed the presser. He was on his way to Portland 24hrs after the draft.

I suspect Ant in a sign and trade with other assets - pick package similar to what the Lakers sent out for AD.
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Can you even include multiple players in a sign and trade? I didn't think so.
 
Fez Forthright said:
If they were going to trade Sharpe I think they would have at least delayed the presser. He was on his way to Portland 24hrs after the draft.

I suspect Ant in a sign and trade with other assets - pick package similar to what the Lakers sent out for AD.
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Don’t think AD is the guy. And don’t think Ant will be gone this summer.
 
I agree with the conclusion of the video, his ceiling is probably most limited by how obsessed he is with getting better. Is he going to coast along with his substantial gifts or is he going to grind everyday to improve his weaknesses? I also agreed with his own Bradley Beal comparison of his game. He's a bit bigger/longer then Beal and definitely is a more explosive finisher, but he shares a smoothness in the way he sets up his J. He's going to take some time but he's got so much talent.

STOMP
 
Propagandist said:
This is so untrue. You do not need a solution to say something is not right. How the fuck do I know what's available? My job isn't to provide solutions for the guy who gets paid to provide solutions.

The point was and remains to be: this was not the plan.
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JFC, it obviously WAS the plan. It wasn't how YOU envisioned the plan going. We got maybe the best player in the draft and your incessant whining about it is just ridiculous dear god just stop. I've been trying to get caught up in this thread and you and Oldman Grouch are just off the chain, off the CHAIN negative. Just unreal. I can't wait until Sharpe makes you both eat your words. I'm here for it!
 
Propagandist said:
I'm not used to you being optimistic. You're not disappointed at all? Like four years from now when Sharpe is All-NBA or is a bust, I'm not going to be like "I stand corrected" or "told you so," I'll just lament missing a chance at something with Dame.
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That ship sailed when Dumb fuck Olshey passed on PG13 and Jimmy Butler because he wanted to keep MeJ. It's actually far, FAR more likely we win a Chip with Dame on the back end of his prime hitting clutch shots with SImons and Sharpe doing the heavy lifting than Dame and OG day-to-day Anouby or anyone else that was remotely reasonable. If you're upset we didn't get Durant or LeBron on draft night, yeah sure me too, but that wasn't in the realm of possibility. No available guy except perhaps Simmons (and we could still get him) was going to change the trajectory of this franchise. Sharpe has All-NBA+ potential according to many professionals who watched him. Get this out of your system and then enjoy watching him develop into a star. I will good-naturedly bring this meltdown up often over the years. It's not like we passed on Giannis for CJ, THAT was meltdown worthy and I was correct to take Giannis and also wanted Gobert that draft (check BE if you don't believe me) Sharpe is the first guy we've drafted since Dame I'm truly excited about. I was intrigued by Ant, but I'm excited about Sharpe. Relax, take a few breaths and then start to get into the idea this kid might be special. Chauncey, Dame, and many, many Pro-Scouts all think he is maybe THE guy in this draft. You cannot do better than we did potential-wise (possible exception Holmgren if he puts on 80+ lbs).
 
Idog1976 said:
That ship sailed when Dumb fuck Olshey passed on PG13 and Jimmy Butler because he wanted to keep MeJ. It's actually far, FAR more likely we win a Chip with Dame on the back end of his prime hitting clutch shots with SImons and Sharpe doing the heavy lifting than Dame and OG day-to-day Anouby or anyone else that was remotely reasonable. If you're upset we didn't get Durant or LeBron on draft night, yeah sure me too, but that wasn't in the realm of possibility. No available guy except perhaps Simmons (and we could still get him) was going to change the trajectory of this franchise. Sharpe has All-NBA+ potential according to many professionals who watched him. Get this out of your system and then enjoy watching him develop into a star. I will good-naturedly bring this meltdown up often over the years. It's not like we passed on Giannis for CJ, THAT was meltdown worthy and I was correct to take Giannis and also wanted Gobert that draft (check BE if you don't believe me) Sharpe is the first guy we've drafted since Dame I'm truly excited about. I was intrigued by Ant, but I'm excited about Sharpe. Relax, take a few breaths and then start to get into the idea this kid might be special. Chauncey, Dame, and many, many Pro-Scouts all think he is maybe THE guy in this draft. You cannot do better than we did potential-wise (possible exception Holmgren if he puts on 80+ lbs).
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Great post. I can't wait to catch a peek when Summer League starts.
 
Propagandist said:
Hey man. I'm shocked about the pick and shocked about the optimism. To me, we are one solid, defensive-minded SF away from making noise...and yet we draft 1. the most inexperienced player 2. a guard. I don't know, it just seems like there is a good path just out of reach. Like I said before, if we make a move to shore up the SF position and develop Sharpe, I'm way in. But this sort of commitment to being mediocre--or more realistically, this commitment to ride Dame into the ground--until *maybe* someone pops someday is a hard pill to swallow.
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That's the problem right there. If you mean maybe getting to the 2nd round, sure. If you mean competing for a ring, absolutely not. We are far from competing for a ring and Sharpe, Nas, and Simons realizing their potential with perhaps slight improvement from Hart and Nurkic is by FAR the most likely way of getting there.

Adding OG or another solid, non-elite wing was not going to get it done. I'd much, MUCH rather have Sharpe's potential than OG who is a known quantity and an oft-injured one at that. Sochan does NOT get us to the promised land unless he goes absolutely berserk on offense.

I have far more faith in Sharpe becoming a plus defender than Sochan becoming a dangerous offensive threat and elite lockdown defender. The tools for Sharpe are all there to be ELITE at both ends of the floor with a ceiling that is dizzying according to many, MANY coaches (Cal at Ky e.g.) and pro-Scouts. What about that do you NOT get? He was the #1 Highschool prospect. Like what the hell do you want bro? I think we did by far, by FAR the best potential move by drafting skies the limit talent, over a solid defender in Sochan, or an oft-injured defender in Anouby. Any OG comparable wing doesn't get it done. Short of Simmons (we could STILL get him) or Durant there is no franchise-altering wing out there that is available, what about that do you not understand? Daniels was NOT the pick if Sharpe is on the board. Our draft was spectacular given our two draft picks we got absolute steals. Sure it would have been nice to get Duren, but we couldn't get it done.

Just seriously read some scouting reports from actual scouts and not moronic hot takes on draft sites or the like, but ACTUAL pros, like Calipari who has coached not one, not two, not three, but FOUR Number 1 overall picks and he said no doubt in his mind Sharpe was a number one pick next year. I mean Jesus dude what did you want? A cloned Michael Jordan to appear from a secret cloning vat that Jody Allen had bought from an off-world civilization?!?!!??! We did great, sit down, relax, take a valium and see what happens.
 
Idog1976 said:
That's the problem right there. If you mean maybe getting to the 2nd round, sure. If you mean competing for a ring, absolutely not. We are far from competing for a ring and Sharpe, Nas, and Simons realizing their potential with perhaps slight improvement from Hart and Nurkic is by FAR the most likely way of getting there.

Adding OG or another solid, non-elite wing was not going to get it done. I'd much, MUCH rather have Sharpe's potential than OG who is a known quantity and an oft-injured one at that. Sochan does NOT get us to the promised land unless he goes absolutely berserk on offense.

I have far more faith in Sharpe becoming a plus defender than Sochan becoming a dangerous offensive threat and elite lockdown defender. The tools for Sharpe are all there to be ELITE at both ends of the floor with a ceiling that is dizzying according to many, MANY coaches (Cal at Ky e.g.) and pro-Scouts. What about that do you NOT get? He was the #1 Highschool prospect. Like what the hell do you want bro? I think we did by far, by FAR the best potential move by drafting skies the limit talent, over a solid defender in Sochan, or an oft-injured defender in Anouby. Any OG comparable wing doesn't get it done. Short of Simmons (we could STILL get him) or Durant there is no franchise-altering wing out there that is available, what about that do you not understand? Daniels was NOT the pick if Sharpe is on the board. Our draft was spectacular given our two draft picks we got absolute steals. Sure it would have been nice to get Duren, but we couldn't get it done.

Just seriously read some scouting reports from actual scouts and not moronic hot takes on draft sites or the like, but ACTUAL pros, like Calipari who has coached not one, not two, not three, but FOUR Number 1 overall picks and he said no doubt in his mind Sharpe was a number one pick next year. I mean Jesus dude what did you want? A cloned Michael Jordan to appear from a secret cloning vat that Jody Allen had bought from an off-world civilization?!?!!??! We did great, sit down, relax, take a valium and see what happens.
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I’ve come around on you. This kinda drunken old man rant is pretty endearing. I feel like you might’ve extrapolated a little too much…

HOWEVER, I have covid and last night and yesterday, and today actually, I was pretty feverish. I have ZERO recollection of any of these posts! Haha! I’m not even kidding. I’m actually excited about Sharpe, and Walker for that matter.
 
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