Blazers Press Conference announcing new coach 6-29-2021

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Scalma said:
“I think we can even be better offensively with more ball movement, different schemes, different plays, executing a little bit better. Playing on both sides of the floor a little bit more, not having to like, you know have Dame and CJ bail you out with those shots that they can make all the time. Having some more continuity, not only ball movement, but player movement.

“Big Nurk, you know, is an asset. I think that he can score more than he has in the past. He's a really good facilitator, moving him around, putting the ball in his hands, moving Dame and CJ off the ball a little bit.”

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i had to rub one out when he said this along with holding everyone accountable on the defensive side

now let’s see if the results follow
 
In case it's interesting to anyone... I've done a little bit of work with sports franchises and crisis PR, I'm far from an expert but likely would've been similar work to what went into this...

The name of the game is to get through it without exacerbating the situation or giving anyone anything super meaty to cling to, and I think, largely they did that today. It wasn't perfect, I actually think a few of the ideas that were mentioned on BE (ex: addressing sexual assault victims, etc.) could have potentially been woven in to score a point or two with the wokest of our fanbase, but scoring points really isn't the main goal here -- it's secondary at best. You're trying to address the issue while saying as little that can be leveraged against you later as possible.

Neil's "you'll just have to trust us" response was without question the weak point in the whole thing. I cannot imagine that's how it was supposed to come out (if it is, their PR writer should be looking for a new job ASAP), but Neil certainly looked nervous and it's possible that it came out of his mouth different than as he'd intended. Unless things over there are just completely in shambles, I cannot imagine they wouldn't have prepared for that question, so to have that be the answer is more than a little mind-boggling. It was such a weak answer, in fact that I think the idea of the organization posting some amount of report/validation of their due diligence on the website (so long as it didn't fan any flames) is probably a good idea. It'd obviously be redacted to all hell or scripted in such a way to say nothing salacious, but the fan in me would like to believe that they actually DID the due diligence that they claim to have done, and I think it would go a long way in calming down fans who are upset at the lack of transparency.

At the end of the day, you want the discussion behind you, mostly so you can address any and all future questions (so long as nothing *new* occurs) by simply saying that you've addressed it and are now focused on basketball. It won't please everybody, but I'm guessing the team is confident in the size of the fanbase that they're not too concerned about any material impact on the bottom line. I'm not sure why they cut Quick's question off, but I do think it stands to reason that they might've wanted to make sure Chauncey's responses to the situation were pre-scripted just to make sure he didn't go off the cuff and say something he'd regret or be misconstrued (hence he and Neil being so upfront about all of it).

It wasn't perfect. It wasn't pretty. I agree with those who are bummed for Chauncey -- as someone who stumped for him to get ANY HC job for years now, I'm very excited that he's OUR coach, and sad he didn't get to have a 'rah rah' presser for his intro. But I think they did their job today. As others have said, winning will cure a lot of ills and mistrust.

Maybe this is helpful insight, maybe it's just noise at this point, but hope it helps frame things for some?
 
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Wizard Mentor said:
If it wasn't for her baggage, Becky (or someone with her qualifications) would be a reasonable choice as hc for a club trying to develop young players.
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If it wasn't for his baggage, Billups would be a great choice for Blazers' coach. What's that you say? He is? "Baggage" only holds certain people back?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I don't think you're the source of anything. But the fact remains, Chauncey was accused of rape and that is something a reporter has to ask about or be negligent. Reporters flat out shouldn't not ask questions to avoid embarrassing anybody. Everybody involved knew these questions were coming, and if the family were there, either somebody prepared them or everybody's unbelievably negligent (as in I literally don't believe it).

(I'm not sure what "react to shit" means. Yes, I respond to sensory stimuli in that I am a living creature.)
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Rasta you conveniently spoke of only half the facts. You cant end it with he was accused. Stop omitting facts.

Billups was accused. Fact.
He denied it. Fact
thecaccuser and accused came to an agreed settlement. Fact


No one else needs to know anything more and your stance that its neglegence to not ask just shows how invasive you are being.

NDA’s exist for a reason.
Not everything must be explained to yours or anyones satisfaction when it was a private affair settled by two adults.
Get your nose out of thier settlement.
The only negligence here is asserting that its negligent NOT to ask.

have a bit of respect. Just a little bit. Get out of thier personal lives from 20 years ago.

No one has the right to be upset because they didnt get the answer they want.

Let me correct that.
They have every right.

And they also have every right to look like a complete asshat drama queen national inquirer news spreader.

Which is kinda what your posts are reading as. Somemone who feels entitled to know about other peoples lives from m20 years ago. You are entitled to nothing regarding this. Neither are the reporters you are supporting.

Please exert a bit of dignity and respect.
 
just watched the video

Olshey was OK and actually managed to repress condescension and smugness. Some evasiveness and vague responses but everybody in front of a microphone will have some of that. I'm cynical so before I believe any of his words about him knowing he has to put a winning team around Dame, I have to see it. His first task is to re-sign Powell and I have to wonder how much of an impact Billups will have there. I still don't believe Powell will be eager to be a full time SF or CJ's backup. Olshey's #1 off-season priority will be a challenge, especially if Seattle is insisting on financial restraint

Billups was fine in an uncomfortable situation. That being a media amateur-hour with a few limp pitchforks. Some of those questions were worse than lame. I think there may have been a better candidate than Billups, but just about any change in coaching philosophy will be welcome

for the most part, a boiler-plate new coach introduction

the clowns at blazersedge can go fuck themselves....and then demand apologies from each other for unfulfilling fucks. This "I'm-outraged-you-should-apologize for-triggering-me" culture is ridiculous
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I completely agree that:
1. People should not be held accountable for their entire lives because of things they did before their brains fully formed.
2. People should be allowed to redeem themselves and be forgiven (which is why I believe, as do most liberals, that ex-cons deserve every chance).

What I don't get is how your idea of the Blazers using accusations of racism against the people protesting against the hiring of coach with a rape accusation in his past is "lancing" the problem from society rather than making things a whole lot fucking worse.



Ah yes, the SJW shit-stirrer. The only person responsible for "cancel culture". This is why we're justified in passing laws banning the teaching of certain academic theories in schools and universities. Yes, that'll fix the problem!
And is the "True Fan" one who wouldn't even care if every member of the team was a serial rapist so long as they can play basketball?

Re: your "argument" above. You seem to assume that, given that we don't know who's telling the truth, we actually do, it's Chauncey and not that lying tramp who's just a gold-digging liar.
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I was nodding along until I hit that last sentence. You seem to be an inteligent and thoughtful person, but here you are rejecting several of the foundation stones of our legal system. "Burden of proof", "Reasonable doubt", "Innocent until proven guilty"???
 
wizenheimer said:
just watched the video

Olshey was OK and actually managed to repress condescension and smugness. Some evasiveness and vague responses but everybody in front of a microphone will have some of that. I'm cynical so before I believe any of his words about him knowing he has to put a winning team around Dame, I have to see it. His first task is to re-sign Powell and I have to wonder how much of an impact Billups will have there. I still don't believe Powell will be eager to be a full time SF or CJ's backup. Olshey's #1 off-season priority will be a challenge, especially if Seattle is insisting on financial restraint

Billups was fine in an uncomfortable situation. That being a media amateur-hour with a few limp pitchforks. Some of those questions were worse than lame. I think there may have been a better candidate than Billups, but just about any change in coaching philosophy will be welcome

for the most part, a boiler-plate new coach introduction

the clowns at blazersedge can go fuck themselves....and then demand apologies from each other for unfulfilling fucks. This "I'm-outraged-you-should-apologize for-triggering-me" culture is ridiculous
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I don't see any viable way we resign Powell unless CJ is traded first. I truly believe moving him for a forward has to happen ASAP.
 
wizenheimer said:
just watched the video

Olshey was OK and actually managed to repress condescension and smugness. Some evasiveness and vague responses but everybody in front of a microphone will have some of that. I'm cynical so before I believe any of his words about him knowing he has to put a winning team around Dame, I have to see it. His first task is to re-sign Powell and I have to wonder how much of an impact Billups will have there. I still don't believe Powell will be eager to be a full time SF or CJ's backup. Olshey's #1 off-season priority will be a challenge, especially if Seattle is insisting on financial restraint

Billups was fine in an uncomfortable situation. That being a media amateur-hour with a few limp pitchforks. Some of those questions were worse than lame. I think there may have been a better candidate than Billups, but just about any change in coaching philosophy will be welcome

for the most part, a boiler-plate new coach introduction

the clowns at blazersedge can go fuck themselves....and then demand apologies from each other for unfulfilling fucks. This "I'm-outraged-you-should-apologize for-triggering-me" culture is ridiculous
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what did you think a out NO actually admitting keeping Dame happy is on him?
And how he basically admitted that some past rosters he built werent contenders but overachieved?

overall i thought this to be one of his best pc’s hes had. he came off as more genuine and realistic than in times past, in my opinion.

You are one of his biggest critics, so im curious about your thoughts on that. :)
 
Scalma said:
Unless something previously unknown about Billups comes out this shit is already over. Anything now is grasping at straws. Hes our coach. Either support or *fart* don’t.
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Sooo with ya.

im even pissed at 1080 the fan right now. Their 15 minute looped headline news reportsdetailing the conference says nothing about how Billups discussed improving the team and only has excerpts about his past. Even their looped news headline is playing into dragging this out.
Ive always liked Isaac, Jason and Mike but man thier news headline made me search the radio on the way home today.
 
i found a letter some fan wrote to jody allen and im not sure if it would be okay to post it on this forum

personally, i find that shit hilarious and i think majority of the people against chauncey billups hire think the same
 
Orion Bailey said:
Sooo with ya.

im even pissed at 1080 the fan right now. Their 15 minute looped headline news reportsdetailing the conference says nothing about how Billups discussed improving the team and only has excerpts about his past. Even their looped news headline is playing into dragging this out.
Ive always liked Isaac, Jason and Mike but man thier news headline made me search the radio on the way home today.
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Isaac? Anything he says about the Blazers can’t be taken seriously, as it’s personal to him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't believe for a second that anything in this press conference wasn't carefully planned because of how bad the PR has been from this whole thing.
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Of COURSE it was carefully planned. Did you expect everybody to just go in there and wing it. My favorite part of this board so far are this guy’s conspiracy theories.

Why would Dame be there? So the press can badger him about demanding a trade? This is Chauncey’s day. Having Dame there would have been a major distraction. If Dame didn’t like the hire, we’d already know about it via Haynes.

For all we know Dame is there, he’s just not in front of the camera. I’m guessing that’s the case.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
I was nodding along until I hit that last sentence. You seem to be an inteligent and thoughtful person, but here you are rejecting several of the foundation stones of our legal system. "Burden of proof", "Reasonable doubt", "Innocent until proven guilty"???
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This is not a legal matter. Do you think people should've hired OJ after he was found "not guilty"? What would you think if you saw on somebody's resume - "accused of rape but settled out of court"?

Is it unfair on Chauncey to hold something against him if he genuinely is not guilty of rape? On the one hand, you want to say "being falsely accused shouldn't hold anyone back!" and that's true. BUT:
1. We don't know the truth.
2. Without some bombshell piece of evidence, we have to decide between whom to believe. There's no way to avoid it. Oh wait, there is - NOT HIRE CHAUNCEY.
3. Chauncey is not some terrible victim in this, any more than Kavanaugh was (in the circumstances in which they didn't get the jobs, and, of course, they did) - he's had a great career (AFTER the events) and has a great job.
4. Chauncey does not have a right to get the job. Literally nobody does. So nobody's rights are violated (not Chauncey's, not Becky Hammon's) if they don't get the job.
 
New Trail Blazer Coach Chauncey Billups, who visited Portland Tuesday for a news conference, comes with high marks from many around the NBA.N

“I have no doubt that Chauncey is going to make a great head coach,” former Piston teammate Ben Wallace said. “Hell, if I was a little bit younger, I’d go try out for the Portland Trail Blazers.

“I knew from the moment he first walked into the gym with the Pistons, he took control. He was the floor general, getting guys in position and leading the team.

“The way he was able to control our offense and run our show, and at times force our coaches on the sideline to take a backseat, because he’s already got three or four plays in his head that we’re running.”

Mark Warkentien, who spent 10 years working in the front office of the Trail Blazers, was the general manager of the Denver Nuggets in 2008 when he traded for Chauncey Billups, a deal that sent Allen Iverson to the Detroit Pistons.

Warkentien raves about Billups. Asked by Chad Doing on Monday’s 620 Radio “Rip City Drive” about Billups as a person, his former GM was effusive.

“Perfect,” he said. “A one-word answer. Perfect. He was a great teammate, is great in the community. He was perfect. Just absolutely perfect. I mean, the people of Portland are going to love him.

“He can babysit my kids. I trust him in absolute terms.

“As a coach, he’ll be tremendous. Just tremendous

https://t.co/UfksTS0Bbp
 
Orion Bailey said:
Rasta you conveniently spoke of only half the facts. You cant end it with he was accused. Stop omitting facts.

Billups was accused. Fact.
He denied it. Fact
thecaccuser and accused came to an agreed settlement. Fact
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Which settles nothing about what actually happened. Fact.

You do get that, right?

Orion Bailey said:
No one else needs to know anything more and your stance that its neglegence to not ask just shows how invasive you are being.
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Imagine you are the accuser's parent and you believe her account. Do you think, "Good for Chauncey, after all, he paid off my daughter and it was over 20 years ago."

Here's how to avoid the press asking questions: don't apply for a public position.

Orion Bailey said:
NDA’s exist for a reason.
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So rich people can get poor people to shut the fuck up?

Orion Bailey said:
Not everything must be explained to yours or anyones satisfaction when it was a private affair settled by two adults.
Get your nose out of thier settlement.
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This is hilarious. Your concern for the accuser's privacy is touching.
 
Orion Bailey said:
what did you think a out NO actually admitting keeping Dame happy is on him?
And how he basically admitted that some past rosters he built werent contenders but overachieved?

overall i thought this to be one of his best pc’s hes had. he came off as more genuine and realistic than in times past, in my opinion.

You are one of his biggest critics, so im curious about your thoughts on that. :)
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sorry, but at this stage, I see it all as talk-is-cheap. He has to show me before I believe any of his chatter

I still think he has no intention of trading CJ, and without that change, I don't see Portland having a path to add another all-star talent in the next year. Dame-CJ-Nurkic have been healthy in the playoffs for 3 series now. Portland went 3-12 in those game (3-11 if you drop game 5 against the Lakers). Farting around with rotation slots 4-10 won't alter the team's trajectory. The problem is in the top-3. Maybe Olshey intends to do something about that, but I'm highly skeptical. The opportunity is now because the Blazers have a chance to replace CJ with Powell while trading CJ for a much better fit at another position. They'll need to add assets but they have all their future firsts as well as Simons and Little
 
Scalma said:
Isaac? Anything he says about the Blazers can’t be taken seriously, as it’s personal to him.
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I disagree. While his takes are not hot by any means, or deemed as personal... he is at least level headed about it.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Which settles nothing about what actually happened. Fact.

You do get that, right?



Imagine you are the accuser's parent and you believe her account. Do you think, "Good for Chauncey, after all, he paid off my daughter and it was over 20 years ago."

Here's how to avoid the press asking questions: don't apply for a public position.



So rich people can get poor people to shut the fuck up?



This is hilarious. Your concern for the accuser's privacy is touching.
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do you miss the tabloid press in England because it seems you're craving it..looking for that dirt under the rug....Chauncey's case is well documented...it bothered me, after I looked into it I found nothing suspicious and a lot of transparency from him...I came to the conclusion that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and made and expensive mistake any 20 year old could've easily made...you seem to need a monster in the story but my research found he's no monster and I don't say that because I want him as coach....I wanted Terry Stotts as coach...I've moved on...now I love the hire and want to make him welcome and show extended trust where you seem unwilling to let go of suspicious doubt...choices...you have an issue with Jody Allen as well I'm going to assume..as I said.....choices rasta...doesn't take long to read up on the incident and see it for what it is ....try it
 
Scalma said:
Isaac? Anything he says about the Blazers can’t be taken seriously, as it’s personal to him.
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oh i know he has a personal beef after losing the tv show. But i still like listening to them.
 
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