Blazers receive signed offer sheet for Batum

[Ed O]

Jason Quick ‏@jwquick
Blazers have received offer sheet from Minnesota for RFA Nicolas Batum within the last hour. Terms are unknown.

Ed O.

 

[Sedatedfork]

But was it submitted to the league?

 

[Masbee]

Ed O.

Can a trade still be worked out or is this final - match or lose him?

 

[Sedatedfork]

Can a trade still be worked out or is this final - match or lose him?

My understanding is that if it's submitted to the league it is match or lose him. You could still trade after matching, but not to Minny. I'm also not sure what the time limitations are on trading Batum if you match him. Is it December?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I believe trades are off the table. They either match or they don't. Nic accepting the QO s also off the table.

However if both sides agree I think they can rip up the offer sheet.

 

[Nikolokolus]

My only question is whether or not it was written on a college-ruled, sheet of yellow notebook paper or a Taco Bell napkin ...

 

[Masbee]

My understanding is that if it's submitted to the league it is match or lose him. You could still trade after matching, but not to Minny. I'm also not sure what the time limitations are on trading Batum if you match him. Is it December?

There was also a rumor of a trade kicker to be included in Batum's deal from Minny.

 

[BrianFromWA]

My understanding is that if it's submitted to the league it is match or lose him. You could still trade after matching, but not to Minny. I'm also not sure what the time limitations are on trading Batum if you match him. Is it December?

If his salary increases more than 20% (his will) it's Jan 15. "Normal" FA's like Felton would be Dec 15.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Match.

 

[Ed O]

Set.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Game?

 

[Ed O]

Nice.

We learned the game, and then we posted.

Ed O.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Nice.

We learned the game, and then we posted.

Ed O.

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[Natebishop3]

Go ahead and match that shit, call Khan and tell him to eat a dick.

 

[Draco]

However if both sides agree I think they can rip up the offer sheet.

If the Blazers, Wolves, and Batum all three agree to cancel it they could. But I don't know if that's actually ever happened before in the history of the NBA. But in theory they could then do a sign and trade.

 

[Sinobas]

So the wolves wasted their amnesty on Darko, a guy in the final year of his contract, and now they have to scrammble to fill a lot of roster spots after losing Beasley, Webster, Darko, Miller, and perhaps Anthony Randolph.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

http://rubechat.kfan.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=205428

Minny fans want Joel now... There are 28 Other teams to steal from, y'know!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Go ahead and match that shit, call Khan and tell him to eat a dick.

I prefer Louis CK's "suck a bag of dicks" personally.

 

[illmatic99]

Seriously. Wait till Wednesday.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm sure they will, but you have to admit that it would be funny if they had matched within an hour of receiving the offer.

 

[magnifier661]

We will most likely match and I think it's a bad idea. 2 years from now we will be regretting this decision. This could get khan fired too. Batum isn't a 12 mil per player. He doesn't have the killer instinct to be a #2 option on a team. I would much rather use that money for a legit #1 or #2 option. Maybe we could match and trade Batum for a legit #1 packaged with a player?

 

[Natebishop3]

We will most likely match and I think it's a bad idea. 2 years from now we will be regretting this decision. This could get khan fired too. Batum isn't a 12 mil per player. He doesn't have the killer instinct to be a #2 option on a team. I would much rather use that money for a legit #1 or #2 option. Maybe we could match and trade Batum for a legit #1 packaged with a player?

Having the money doesn't guarantee that you get a legit #1 or #2 option. How many legit options are available and fit our window? Iggy? Monta? There isn't a good option, and I'm definitely coming around to the realization that we will never sign a big name free agent with cap space. We just aren't on the list. We will have to draft a Durant or a LeBron before anyone wants to come play for us.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Having the money doesn't guarantee that you get a legit #1 or #2 option. How many legit options are available and fit our window? Iggy? Monta? There isn't a good option, and I'm definitely coming around to the realization that we will never sign a big name free agent with cap space. We just aren't on the list. We will have to draft a Durant or a LeBron before anyone wants to come play for us.

Pretty much. And if you can't sign them, you almost certainly can't trade for that caliber of player, because teams don't let the true superstars get away unless they force their way out.

 

[Natebishop3]

Pretty much. And if you can't sign them, you almost certainly can't trade for that caliber of player, because teams don't let the true superstars get away unless they force their way out.

And if they force their way out, it certainly isn't to Portland.

 

[Nikolokolus]

And if they force their way out, it certainly isn't to Portland.

Are you sure? I mean, the rain, the hipsters, the rain ... what's not to like?

 

[Natebishop3]

Are you sure? I mean, the rain, the hipsters, the rain ... what's not to like?

Don't forget the taxes.... and the rain.

 

[MARIS61]

So the wolves wasted their amnesty on Darko, a guy in the final year of his contract, and now they have to scrammble to fill a lot of roster spots after losing Beasley, Webster, Darko, Miller, and perhaps Anthony Randolph.

Just the absence of those players from the roster probably improves the Puppies.

 

[MARIS61]

Having a top-tier coach is all we'd need to attract superstars, but PA likes employees he can keep under his thumb.

 

[Natebishop3]

Having a top-tier coach is all we'd need to attract superstars, but PA likes employees he can keep under his thumb.

And top-tier coaches only like to go where there are already established stars. It's a catch-22.

 

[Ricky Business]

So the wolves wasted their amnesty on Darko, a guy in the final year of his contract, and now they have to scrammble to fill a lot of roster spots after losing Beasley, Webster, Darko, Miller, and perhaps Anthony Randolph.

Batum or no Batum, these guys were all gone by the start of the season either way. Filling roster spots is not the issue here as we would be filling them either way. Chances are good that Ridnour, Barea, Williams, Wes Johnson and/or Ellington are on their way out also. But those moves will be a part of trade(s) and therefore bringing someone back. But, without making moves with those players and without adding Batum, we only have 3 roster spots open. You have to remember that we already agree to terms with Roy and Shved and will finalize them once we find out about Batum one way or the other.