Zombie Blazers Rejected Warriors' Offer Of David Lee, Brandon Rush For LMA

[Mediocre Man]

I wonder if the Warriors like Crabbe. He played a few miles away. Gives us Barnes and Thompson and we will take Lee's shitty contract. They can have LMA and Crabbe.

Then we trade Batum and Wes for a young center, tank next year, and grab a top lottery pick.

Just Kidding

You kid, but

Lillard / McCollum
Thompson / McCollum / Barton
Barnes / Claver
Lee / Leonard / Freeland
Drummund / Withey

A gazillion dollars in cap space next year with the high pick we would have is EXACTLY how a team should rebuild

 

[magnifier661]

You kid, but

Lillard / McCollum
Thompson / McCollum / Barton
Barnes / Claver
Lee / Leonard / Freeland
Drummund / Withey

A gazillion dollars in cap space next year with the high pick we would have is EXACTLY how a team should rebuild

Wait how we getting Drummond?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Wait how we getting Drummond?

Batum and Wes apparently. Not that I see it happening.

 

[magnifier661]

Batum and Wes apparently. Not that I see it happening.

I'd do that if all those fell into place like that. It kinda helps Detroit too because that's where they suck badly in anyway.

 

[RoyToy]

There's no way Detroit trades Drummond so it's pointless.

 

[Pinwheel1]

You kid, but

Lillard / McCollum
Thompson / McCollum / Barton
Barnes / Claver
Lee / Leonard / Freeland
Drummund / Withey

A gazillion dollars in cap space next year with the high pick we would have is EXACTLY how a team should rebuild

Actually you forgot Robinson in that scenario backing up Lee at PF.
I kid because I don't think GS would give us both Klay and Barnes. I wouldn't.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Actually you forgot Robinson in that scenario backing up Lee at PF.
I kid because I don't think GS would give us both Klay and Barnes. I wouldn't.

Just sayin

 

[magnifier661]

There's no way Detroit trades Drummond so it's pointless.

I know I wouldn't. But.... Maybe Atlanta would trade Horford for Batum, Matthews and Barton?

 

[RoyToy]

Nope.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Of course they did. The Blazers are trading Aldridge for Asik and Lin.

Dammit, BBert, if you don't bite your tongue, I will!

Wait. What?

 

[BlazerWookee]

So if the Warriors had their hearts set on Aldridge, what deal would you accept?

Lee/Thompson/Barnes?

There isn't one.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You kid, but

Lillard / McCollum
Thompson / McCollum / Barton
Barnes / Claver
Lee / Leonard / Freeland
Drummund / Withey

A gazillion dollars in cap space next year with the high pick we would have is EXACTLY how a team should rebuild

I was suggesting something similar yesterday: deal Matthews, Batum, and Aldridge for Ross, Barnes, and Drummond respectively (along with corresponding expiring contracts). 'Twould give us the 5-9 & 11 picks from 2012, and about 30M in cap space next summer. It wasn't completely crazy, honestly...

 

[Natebishop3]

For the people who are saying that GS won't include both Thompson AND Barnes, show me where those two have been so exceptional. Barnes is a rookie, and he didn't start, so that's his excuse.... but where exactly is Thompson so exceptional? Everything about him statistically seems pretty average to me.

 

[magnifier661]

For the people who are saying that GS won't include both Thompson AND Barnes, show me where those two have been so exceptional. Barnes is a rookie, and he didn't start, so that's his excuse.... but where exactly is Thompson so exceptional? Everything about him statistically seems pretty average to me.

Which is why both must be included

 

[Natebishop3]

Which is why both must be included

Which is why I've been saying that since this rumor first broke.

 

[magnifier661]

Which is why I've been saying that since this rumor first broke.

Well then kind sir; I am in 100% agreement

 

[Natebishop3]

Well then kind sir; I am in 100% agreement

The way I see it, neither Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson are worth Aldridge by themselves, and Bogut is just cap space. I still think there's a better deal out there.

 

[magnifier661]

The way I see it, neither Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson are worth Aldridge by themselves, and Bogut is just cap space. I still think there's a better deal out there.

Yeah wait till everyone blows their load. Also wait for where Howard lands. I suspect a lot of teams will scramble to compete with that team

 

[KingSpeed]

Bump

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Bump

That’ll show the warriors; we got Brandon Rush practically for free! And as a bonus we got four years WITHOUT Brandon Rush for free too.

 

[dviss1]

That's some funny shit, right there.

He was right.

 

[Drttimmy]

In review, ultimately, we turned over Aldridge, Wes Matthews, and Batum for Milovan Rakovitch. Danny Ainge turned his aging regime -- Garnett, Pierce, Allen -- into three lottery picks.

I'm not saying our aging core was the equivalent of Boston's, but it was probably worth more than Milovan Rakovitch....apologies to Milovan Rakovitch. Maybe someday Ainge will long to return home.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

In review, ultimately, we turned over Aldridge, Wes Matthews, and Batum for Milovan Rakovitch. Danny Ainge turned his aging regime -- Garnett, Pierce, Allen -- into three lottery picks.

To be fair, our core was worth about 1/10th what Boston’s was; Wes was injured, LMA was heartless, and Batum was completely inconsistent. Milovan is worth 1/3 of a pick.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The audacity of those cawk munchers.

 

[Sarni]

Many people were really keen on Asik back then. How times change.

 

[hoopsjock]

Many people were really keen on Asik back then. How times change.

I was going to say the same thing! It's kind of funny reading these old threads. Asik and Lin for Aldridge would have been awful.

 

[Sarni]

To be fair, our core was worth about 1/10th what Boston’s was; Wes was injured, LMA was heartless, and Batum was completely inconsistent. Milovan is worth 1/3 of a pick.

Garnett was 37 and Pierce was 36 when they were both traded to Brooklyn. Were they really worth that much?

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Garnett was 37 and Pierce was 36 when they were both traded to Brooklyn. Were they really worth that much?

Not everyone gets to fleece a Russian oligarch. The first GM to do it isn't a genius because he did it.

 

[hoopsjock]

Garnett was 37 and Pierce was 36 when they were both traded to Brooklyn. Were they really worth that much?

I think it was more the circumstances. The Boston Celtics were coming off of a .500 season in which they lost to the Knicks in the 1st round. Garnett and Pierce were still under contract so it made trading them a possibility as it was apparent to everyone (except Brooklyn) that their careers were fading.

The Blazers on the other hand were on the rise. Olshey built a 54 win team that made the 2nd round. The next season they were likely going to get the 2nd seed before the injury to Wes and had Aldridge saying he was going to re-sign and be the best Blazer ever. I'm not sure where it would have even been possible to trade away players on that team. I guess you could argue he could have traded Aldridge and others the year he took the job or after the first season but their value wasn't as good as it could have been. Pierce and Garnett were champions, at that point Aldridge hadn't even been a part of a winning playoff series.

 

[Sarni]

I think it was more the circumstances. The Boston Celtics were coming off of a .500 season in which they lost to the Knicks in the 1st round. Garnett and Pierce were still under contract so it made trading them a possibility as it was apparent to everyone (except Brooklyn) that their careers were fading.

The Blazers on the other hand were on the rise. Olshey built a 54 win team that made the 2nd round. The next season they were likely going to get the 2nd seed before the injury to Wes and had Aldridge saying he was going to re-sign and be the best Blazer ever. I'm not sure where it would have even been possible to trade away players on that team. I guess you could argue he could have traded Aldridge and others the year he took the job or after the first season but their value wasn't as good as it could have been. Pierce and Garnett were champions, at that point Aldridge hadn't even been a part of a winning playoff series.

This point of view I can understand and fully support.

Trading your best players when you are having a very good season and look like you might compete is pretty much always a bad idea. Obviously at the time it wasn't known that Aldridge would ditch the team to join San Antonio and that we also would let Matthews and Batum go, in a hindsight we might have done better to let them all go when they were at their peak but who in their right mind does that? You would literally need a crystal ball to justify such decision to the fan base.

Celtics already won championship before and they were clearly not going to build any future around Garnett and Pierce as you say. They found a team that was desperate and got amazing assets in return because Brooklyn expected their picks to be in low 20s for the considerable future, not taking into consideration that players age and get progressively worse after 30. I don't get what they were thinking but it worked out brilliantly for Celtics. They got Tatum, Brown and Irving back for Garnett and Pierce, wow. There was no such deal available for Blazers though and even if someone was willing to offer two or three picks for Aldridge and Matthews, we wouldn't have had any reason to take it at the time.

If, however, there were signs that Aldridge was dithering then he should have been moved. I don't think we had a clue.