Blazers Roster (pre FA period)

[Wizard Mentor]

Current Roster (12):
Lillard/WB4/Simons
McCollum/Trent
Harkless/Turner
Collins/Aminu
Nurk/Swanigan/Biebs

Others (Need 3 or fewer):
Pat C.: (Easily Replaced) Coach likes him. Trent can step in.

Ed Davis: (Likely Replaced) If we use the TPE, we won't be re-signing him... unfortunately, I really like him. Collins can step in.

PapaG: (Easily Replaced) We have a lot of centers without him.

Layman: (Easily Replaced) Never learned to shoot well enough.

Shabazz: (Easily Replaced) S2 conventional wisdom is that he'll be too expensive, especially given our cap constraints. Baldwin can step in.

As of today, who are we keeping? Who's gone? Why?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Trent is not a guarantee as a 2nd round pick he has no guaranteed contract. But since we spent two picks on him then yes it is highly likely he is on the team.

What we might do and what I want us to do are likely two different things.

I would bring Ed and maybe even Papa G back (I still think there is a chance that Leonard is moved). Layman and Shabazz and Pat C can go. Pat C might stay if we strike out on everything.

Bring in a SF with the TPE.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Note:
We get about $1.5 mil off our books by cutting Layman, whose not guaranteed for 18-19.

 

[Reep]

Questions:

Doesn't Layman have one more year? Papa G also? or are those non-guaranteed?

I would imagine they might try and keep WB4 on the cheap. Given the draft and cost I can't imagine Pat and Napier on the team.

If no other moves, then Davis stays. If they have to absorb a big then Davis goes.

Nothing here we don't already all know.

The big mystery is will they be able to negotiate to get a defensive wing who can shoot?

Hopes and Dreams:

1) ET has value, just not on our team. Hoping some other team wants to pick him up on the cheap.

2) Meyers needs a new start. Given his athletics and shooting seems like someone might be willing to trade contracts just to give him a shot. You can't teach mobile 7'1".

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Layman and PapaG are non-guaranteed.

 

[theprunetang]

2) Meyers needs a new start. Given his athletics and shooting seems like someone might be willing to trade contracts just to give him a shot. You can't teach mobile 7'1".

You can't teach mobile 7'1", but you also can't teach Meyers Leonard.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Suns may renounce a bunch of dudes:
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/06/suns-may-renounce-elfrid-payton-alex-len-others.html

I find Tyler Ennis interesting.

Suns May Renounce Elfrid Payton, Alex Len, Others
June 23rd 2018 at 7:30pm CST by Arthur Hill
The Suns are ready to make aggressive moves in free agency, but not without a little house cleaning first, according to Scott Bordow of The Arizona Republic.

Look for Phoenix to maximize its cap room by shedding some unwanted salary, Bordow writes, with free agents Elfrid Payton and Alex Len both likely to be renounced. Payton’s performance was uneven after coming to the Suns in a midseason trade and he carries a $10MM cap hold. Len became expendable with the addition of No. 1 pick Deandre Ayton.

Those moves would give the team about $10MM for the free agent market, but the Suns are thinking bigger. Bordow expects them to cut ties with center Alan Williams, who has a non-guaranteed $5.52MM salary for next season. They may try to re-sign him or trade him to a team that can afford him more easily.

Other non-guaranteed contracts that might get discarded belong to Tyler Ulis ($1.54MM) and Shaquille Harrison ($1.38MM), while Davon Reed has a $1.38MM deal with a $689,212 guarantee. The deadline to decide on Ulis’ deal is tomorrow.

With up to $20MM available to chase free agents, Phoenix will focus on finding a point guard and a power forward who can defend and shoot from the outside.

Bordow lists the Clippers’ Patrick Beverley, the Celtics’ Marcus Smart, the Bulls’ Zach LaVine, the Raptors’ Fred VanVleet and the Jazz’ Dante Exum as potential backcourt targets, while Utah’s Derrick Favors, Houston’s Trevor Ariza or Luc Mbah a Moute, Milwaukee’s Jabari Parker, Indiana’s Thaddeus Young, San Antonio’s Rudy Gay or Philadelphia’s Ersan Ilyasova could fit the four spot. If the Suns find a power forward, Bordow expects them to explore trading either Dragan Bender or Marquese Chriss.

 

[LayneStaley]

Current Roster (12):
Lillard/WB4/Simons
McCollum/Trent
Harkless/Turner
Collins/Aminu
Nurk/Swanigan/Biebs

Others (Need 3 or fewer):
Pat C.: (Easily Replaced) Coach likes him. Trent can step in.

Ed Davis: (Likely Replaced) If we use the TPE, we won't be re-signing him... unfortunately, I really like him. Collins can step in.

PapaG: (Easily Replaced) We have a lot of centers without him.

Layman: (Easily Replaced) Never learned to shoot well enough.

Shabazz: (Easily Replaced) S2 conventional wisdom is that he'll be too expensive, especially given our cap constraints. Baldwin can step in.

As of today, who are we keeping? Who's gone? Why?

Davis will be kept, if they aren’t trading CJ they aren’t letting Dames buddy walk away either. I highly doubt that TPE is even used but I really hope it is.

 

[Eastoff]

Suns may renounce a bunch of dudes:
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/06/suns-may-renounce-elfrid-payton-alex-len-others.html

I find Tyler Ennis interesting.

Elfrid just needs to cut his hair. There was a great Reddit post about how it literally gets in the way of his shooting form. And his percent with and without is clear.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Current Roster (12):
Lillard/WB4/Simons
McCollum/Trent
Harkless/Turner
Collins/Aminu
Nurk/Swanigan/Biebs

Others (Need 3 or fewer):
Pat C.: (Easily Replaced) Coach likes him. Trent can step in.

Ed Davis: (Likely Replaced) If we use the TPE, we won't be re-signing him... unfortunately, I really like him. Collins can step in.

PapaG: (Easily Replaced) We have a lot of centers without him.

Layman: (Easily Replaced) Never learned to shoot well enough.

Shabazz: (Easily Replaced) S2 conventional wisdom is that he'll be too expensive, especially given our cap constraints. Baldwin can step in.

As of today, who are we keeping? Who's gone? Why?

Not sure who Papa G is but i wouldn't replace any of the players you suggested*. Our PF isn't Power Forward at all and your Centers are the Power Forwards. Your Power Forwards would be easily replaced

*Maybe Laymen

 

[tykendo]

Elfrid Payton would be an excellent backup.

 

[dviss1]

You can't teach mobile 7'1", but you also can't teach Meyers Leonard.

Mobile???

Just who the fuck have you been watching the past 6 years??

 

[dviss1]

Elfrid Payton would be an excellent backup.

Yeah no....

 

[riverman]

I would not be surprised to see Layman on the team next season. He's been present at all the workouts unlike Bazz and Patty C

 

[RR7]

Layman is super cheap, and knows the system. Seems similar to connaughton last year where everyone was certain he'd be waved. If we desperately need a roster spot? Sure, waive him. Otherwise, hes a 13th man. Those guys aren't going to have a big impact on a season.

 

[BigGameDamian]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781952-nba-free-agency-rankings-top-50-players-on-the-market

 

[riverman]

I think the Warriors Kevin Looney at 22 years of age would be a good acquisition...won't cost much...fits the youth curve we have on the bench...won't break the bank either

 

[Wizard Mentor]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781952-nba-free-agency-rankings-top-50-players-on-the-market

Effing Bleacherreport - doesn't list height, weight, or position.

Here's their SF list
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ings-2018-top-available-small-forwards#slide1

 

[rotary111]

Montrezl Harrell has always interested me. He's a true energy guy, kind of reminds me of a poor mans Julius Randall. He would look real good coming off the bench for Collins, he doesn't need plays run for him because he gets his points from hustle, cutting to the hoop for dunks and grabbing offensive rebounds/putbacks. No idea what he will command in free agency and he is restricted.

 

[Scalma]

Current Roster (12):
Lillard/WB4/Simons
McCollum/Trent
Harkless/Turner
Collins/Aminu
Nurk/Swanigan/Biebs

Others (Need 3 or fewer):
Pat C.: (Easily Replaced) Coach likes him. Trent can step in.

Ed Davis: (Likely Replaced) If we use the TPE, we won't be re-signing him... unfortunately, I really like him. Collins can step in.

PapaG: (Easily Replaced) We have a lot of centers without him.

Layman: (Easily Replaced) Never learned to shoot well enough.

Shabazz: (Easily Replaced) S2 conventional wisdom is that he'll be too expensive, especially given our cap constraints. Baldwin can step in.

As of today, who are we keeping? Who's gone? Why?

I think Pat and Napier have already been replaced. Layman is probably gone, but might not be until end of July. Davis should be back, regardless of TPE. This team should be committed to being heavy in the tax if they’re not going to trade CJ. No other way to improve. I think papa g was signed for a reason. Is he eligible for a two way?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I believe we should only have solid rotation players or guys who have the capacity to be that or better within a year. Layman definitely doesn't qualify and even if we have room, he should be jettisoned and bring in a guy similar to Baldwin. Connaughton is on the fence.

 

[MARIS61]

So, again no discernible improvement in our one and done roster?

Hard to believe Lillard will sit still for such willful incompetence.

Super-Nerd Paul Allen must be devoid of competitive spirit.

 

[Scalma]

Elfrid Payton would be an excellent backup.

He would in a vacuum but Baldwin has a very similar profile, and is a lot cheaper. I think we will end up signing someone for the vet minimum to act as insurance in case Baldwin fails. Someone like Jameer Nelson.

 

[oldfisherman]

If NO continues his pattern of the previous off seasons moves? I expect to see 5-7 new faces next season.

I have no idea who is coming in or leaving, other than our two draft picks. Plus NO never takes my advice.

It will be another shotgun summer approach. Throw a bunch of new bodies at the roster, and see if any of them hit the target.

 

[tester551]

I would not be surprised to see Layman on the team next season. He's been present at all the workouts unlike Bazz and Patty C

He's also the only one currently under contract with the Blazers.

If I were a FA like Bazz & Pat -> I wouldn't be working out at the teams facilities. I'd be doing it on my own elsewhere.
Not being at the practice facility right now shouldn't have any bearing.

 

[tester551]

Layman is super cheap, and knows the system. Seems similar to connaughton last year where everyone was certain he'd be waved. If we desperately need a roster spot? Sure, waive him. Otherwise, hes a 13th man. Those guys aren't going to have a big impact on a season.

Pat had at least shown brief glimpses of being able to contribute to the team.

Outside of his first 10 minutes of playing time, Layman has shown nothing.

It's time to cut that experiment.
Besides, we have several other players who are now taking the 10-15 spots on the depth chart (IV, Simons, Trent, PapaG). We have no room for Layman.

 

[Scalma]

Since we brought in two rookies (and let’s be real Trent isn’t gonna get cut no matter what. They gave up too much) I only see room for one maybe two vets.

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Aminu
Nurkic
Baldwin
Simons
Trent jr
Turner
Collins
Swanigan
Davis
Leonard
(Papagiannis)

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think Pat and Napier have already been replaced. Layman is probably gone, but might not be until end of July. Davis should be back, regardless of TPE. This team should be committed to being heavy in the tax if they’re not going to trade CJ. No other way to improve. I think papa g was signed for a reason. Is he eligible for a two way?

If we make a trade + use TPE, Davis is likely gone.

 

[Chris Craig]

The Blazers are going deep into the luxury tax. They don't have much of a choice at this point. Layman is gone. Patty C is gone. Napier is probably gone. Davis will be resigned. The TPE will be used on a vet wing. The MLE will probably be used to secure a vet PG.

 

[Chris Craig]

Since we brought in two rookies (and let’s be real Trent isn’t gonna get cut no matter what. They gave up too much) I only see room for one maybe two vets.

Dame
CJ
Harkless
Aminu
Nurkic
Baldwin
Simons
Trent jr
Turner
Collins
Swanigan
Davis
Leonard
(Papagiannis)

After the draft during his interview, Neil said the Blazers were looking for some vets and had a couple spots...so yeah look for the Blazers to add 2 vets.