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2 cuts are needed. Who will not be on the opening day roster (assuming Omari Johnson will be cut.)?

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Brolo just opted out. Any interest?
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Mike Tokito says the Blazers received a 3.3 trade exception as a result of the Batum trade that can be used or renounced.
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TE counts against the cap if not used. So after signing LMA to a MAX deal, you'd have $20M left, not $23M.

You cannot use the TE to sign FAs.

You cannot combine the TE with another player or exception to acquire a player.

It may as well be renounced since the Blazers are way under the cap if they choose to be.
 
BrianFromWA said:
probably the other way around. They'll spend July 1-8 trying to figure out who they can get to agree to sign. Then they'll renounce cap holds as necessary. But in general a TE isn't that valuable if you're planning to have/use cap space to sign people.

EDIT: If you remember the Kahn saga with Batum, they were waiving and renouncing guys even after the moratorium had passed trying to get to where they could get enough space for Batum. We can similarly wait to see if we just re-sign all of our FA's, go over the cap and use TE's to fill the roster. Or find out that LeBron wants to come here and renounce whatever it takes to get him the salary he wants.
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This.

The Blazers don't really have cap space until they renounce player rights to get rid of the cap holds.
 
42N8Bounce said:
If we signed LaMarcus to a max deal ($20,130000), we would then have $23,453,968 free. With that we could sign another 7-9 yr max player ($20,130,000) and have $3,849,061 left over. Or, we could sign a 0-6 yr max player like Greg Monroe ($16,775,000), and still have $7,204,061 left to spend.
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I think the key is how much flexibility we have with that cap space. Whether or not Aldridge signs, it gives us so many directions we could go. Even if they lose Aldridge in free agency, I can still see them signing or taking a big contract like Hibbert, Monroe, Love. Whether that turns out to be the right play....we'll see, but it's certainly promising. There's also no reason not to use all of that cap space. Even if they overpay role players (Green, Matthews, Lopez?) a bit, the ballooning salary cap next year means they'll still have more money to spend. Won't hurt our flexibility as much in the future.

So many options, lots of contingency plans, and we potentially have 6 rotation players already locked up. Neil is doing great work.
 
I would be stoked if we could sign Monroe and Aminu.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
Mike Tokito says the Blazers received a 3.3 trade exception as a result of the Batum trade that can be used or renounced.
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Great points above. Yes, if we're going to go after a max free agent (beyond ours that we can use bird rights on), we need to renounce the rights to a significant amount of our player, including this trade exception. As Brian and Denny point out, this exception can't be used to sign FA. It must be renounce to clear up CAP space if we go that direction.
 
I've edited my opening post to note that the Player Trade Exception must be renounced as part of clearing CAP space.
 
Hendo and Kaman have very moveable contracts; a team might look to acquire them for a 2nd round pick. That would give the Blazers about $50 million in cap space along with a roster of

Plumlee
Meyers Vonley
Crabbe
CJ
Dame

This might be the best lineup in the history of the NBA with a team having so much cap space. Even the Heat had trouble filling in role players when they brought the big3 together. Neil has done an amazing job having such flexibility. If this franchise was in NY or LA there would be so much more excitement and talk about them possibly forming an elite contender.
 
BonesJones said:
I think Plumlee was a great get. Would be an upgrade over Kaman for $3.5M, saving money to pursue a good starting center. Hendo can be our starting SG of we don't bring Wes back, but who do we plug as starting SF, and is Connaugton ready to step in as our backup 3?
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Someone said Love has shed a lot of weight. If he gets light enough, could he play the 3?
 
Draco said:
Neil has done an amazing job having such flexibility. If this franchise was in NY or LA there would be so much more excitement and talk about them possibly forming an elite contender.
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Absolutely. Just a perfect set up with contingencies for every scenario. It feels amazing to have a GM with a vision.

Fuckin NBA players, man. Why can't they realize how appealing this city is???
 
yuyuza1 said:
Absolutely. Just a perfect set up with contingencies for every scenario. It feels amazing to have a GM with a vision.

Fuckin NBA players, man. Why can't they realize how appealing this city is???
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....because it really isn't. Portland is a mecca for young unemployed street kids and vagrants for one.
For two, most NBA players are not white, and this city is mainly white, meaning there are possibly lots of cultural differences for them.
For three, Portland is just fucking weird. Nobody likes weird unless youre some whack hippy/hiker person you see on Portlandia.
 
blue32 said:
....because it really isn't. Portland is a mecca for young unemployed street kids and vagrants for one.
For two, most NBA players are not white, and this city is mainly white, meaning there are possibly lots of cultural differences for them.
For three, Portland is just fucking weird. Nobody likes weird unless youre some whack hippy/hiker person you see on Portlandia.
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I was being facetious. As an unmarried non-white guy in my mid 20s, I'd rather be in LA/NYC than POR too, and I grew up in Beaverton and currently live in podunk Indy. smh
 
That's going to change.

Re: streetkids: Bigtime gentrification is happening and the Mayor has perks/incentives to revitalize (gentrify) oldtown. This area is next to boom.

It's happening now (in a big way) east of the river -- Central Eastside and the Lloyd Dist.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I was being facetious. As an unmarried non-white guy in my mid 20s, I'd rather be in LA/NYC than POR too, and I grew up in Beaverton and currently live in podunk Indy. smh
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I'd rather be in Portland than where I am (Chicago), and I grew up in Beaverton too. People that have actually lived there don't really appreciate it until they're gone. Portland kicks the shit out of the big cities any day.
 
B-Roy said:
I'd rather be in Portland than where I am (Chicago), and I grew up in Beaverton too. People that have actually lived there don't really appreciate it until they're gone. Portland kicks the shit out of the big cities any day.
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Definitely feel ya. POR just doesn't appeal to me for a multitude of reasons. I like it better than the midwest for sure, and I'm in CHI like every other week (going there after work tonight for the weekend), and definitely would take POR over CHI. But LA, MIA, and NY i'd rather live in instead of POR.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I was being facetious. As an unmarried non-white guy in my mid 20s, I'd rather be in LA/NYC than POR too, and I grew up in Beaverton and currently live in podunk Indy. smh
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My bad bud. I didn't mean to imply anything. I was just offering my take on it. ;-) /cheers bud.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
That's going to change.

Re: streetkids: Bigtime gentrification is happening and the Mayor has perks/incentives to revitalize (gentrify) oldtown. This area is next to boom.

It's happening now (in a big way) east of the river -- Central Eastside and the Lloyd Dist.
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This makes me happy. I work downtown-ish, and every day is a fucking struggle with the rude/aggressive vagrants/street kids.

Got the CHL for a reason.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Definitely feel ya. POR just doesn't appeal to me for a multitude of reasons. I like it better than the midwest for sure, and I'm in CHI like every other week (going there after work tonight for the weekend), and definitely would take POR over CHI. But LA, MIA, and NY i'd rather live in instead of POR.
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Any nice west coast city (LA, Bay Area, Seattle) is comparable to Portland for me. Anywhere else is just not the same. No offense to you, but I've been to Indianapolis a few times and it's a shithole.
 
All the people who are moving here are ruining the city though. We never made the infrastructure to handle this size of population.
 
just saw this thread....good breakdown, but the max's aren't exactly 25/30/35% of salary cap. It's a good approximation, but there's some funky NBA math that goes into it. They use a different cap calculation to determine the maximum salaries, which is based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%. It's actually a bit under 25%. With the 67M number being an approximation, and the 25% being a high number, I think saying "16M" for the max is appropriate for now.
 
no, it's at the end of the moratorium. That's July 8, with players able to sign 12:01am on July 9.
 
Yep. Regarding the max salaries, I saw this tweet recently:

If the CAP is set at $67.1M, that would make the max salaries:
- 0-6 yr NBA vet: $15,785,148
- 7-9 yr NBA vet: $18,942,177
- 10+ yr NBA vet: $22,099,207

I'll update the original post.
 
(Note: I miss storyteller's salaries. SpoTrac, Hoopshype, BasketballInsiders and ESPN all have different salaries posted for many of the players)

For consistency, I'm keeping Kaman and Crabbe and Frazier as "under contract" (Which they are, until they're cut). Partially because the league will do this as well, and it takes place of cap holds.

Combined salaries right now are $26,698,912 for the 9 under contract (Henderson, Kaman, Lillard, Leonard, McCollum, Vonleh, Plumlee, Crabbe, Frazier)

Now the cap holds. Most of your numbers look right, but there are a couple of clarifications and questions:
1) Does RoLo's salary increase b/c of his trade bonus increase his free agent number, or is it based only on "base salary"? Normally not a huge deal, but in this case it takes him from below-league-average salary to above, and drops his free agent amount from 190% to 150%. In the former, his hold is 150% of $6,142,000 ($9.2M) to $10.1M (190% of 5.34M). I can't find it spelled out in Coon's FAQ, but I'm still looking.
2) I think that even though Gee's cap hit last year was only about 913k, you still have to use his whole salary (vet min of 1,063,384 for 5 years of service). Since he's a non-Bird FA, 120% of that would be $1,276,061.
3) As stated above, Crabbe has a non-guaranteed contract. Which means he's under contract until released, and it's not a "free agent amount", but a salary hold. Same number, though.

If you wanted to "max out space", and renounce all of your FA's, add another $1,575,279 for the 3 roster spot holds of 525,093 each. Then add three more if you release Kaman and Crabbe and Frazier, remembering that Kaman's $1M stays on the books no matter what. $24,041,125 is the lowest they could go right now. With 67.1M projected cap, that's $43.1M in space (or $24.7M plus LMA's hold, if you prefer)
 
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