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Silly and naive to send the tape to the league, who is paying very generously for the officiating and has little interest in fairness or honesty suddenly upsetting their well-oiled marketing machine.:sigh:

Send the tapes to the FBI, or Ralph Nader, who actually has shown a tad bit of interest in these matters.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Keep your head buried in the sand. Even a Rockets fan agrees they're getting calls.
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I did not say that. I said the officiating has been inconsistent. I didn't say whether the calls would favor the Rockets or Blazers more if they refs were more consistent.
 
ironcrotch said:
Yup, if you're watching the Hawks Heat game, the refs just handed the Heat a comeback on a platter. I had to turn it off it was so bad. The Hawks were playing awesome ball only to have it negated by Salvatore and company.
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That was disgusting! The manhandling of the Hawks in the paint was ignored by the refs where as Bibby's phantom foul on that 4 point play gets the call. Unbelievable!

Props to the Hawks for keeping their composure and not getting stupid technicals.
 
Without allowing for mid series challenges, I think allowing the coaches to grade the refs at the end of the year, with that having weight on them keeping their jobs or getting raises would be dynamic. 8 or 9 coaches at the end of the season pointing out poor officiating by an individual, with his job riding on it, may be impetus for refs to be a bit more even on their calls. No immediate satisfaction for the team or fans with this, but at least you know that there would be closure.
 
or just more transparency with the officiating. They get reviewed and receive scores on every game they officiate but these records are never released.
They can't do interviews after the game either. Let the media talk to them and let them explain why they made the calls they made.

By denying access to the refs it just adds fuel to the rumors of game fixing and preferential treatment
 
bluefrog said:
or just more transparency with the officiating. They get reviewed and receive scores on every game they officiate but these records are never released.
They can't do interviews after the game either. Let the media talk to them and let them explain why they made the calls they made.

By denying access to the refs it just adds fuel to the rumors of game fixing and preferential treatment
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QFT
 
Can't take credit for cutting the aforementioned video. They have quality video coordinators that put that stuff together. Good for Nate!
 
ABM said:
On a slightly different note, the Blazers were up 13-6, when the Rockets went on a 19-4 tear. Primarily, the damage was a result of:

a) Blazer turnovers
b) Rockets (continuous) Offensive Rebounds
c) Rockets good (wide open) outside shooting' Blazers poor (or indecisive) outside shooting.
d) Rockets hustle and aggressive play

None of the play during this portion was affected by poor officiating. And, IMO, this is the portion of the game where Portland lost control.....and eventually the game.
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Why was there a rebounding discrepancy? Why could the Rockets be super aggressive? Perhaps it had to do with our two centers being in foul trouble literally from the opening tip.

Could it be that players were afraid to attack the basket knowing that Yao could punch them in the face and not get called? Or that Ron Artest could beat the living shit out of them on the way to the basket? I don't know if can really blame guys for being indecisive under those circumstances.

Certainly Portland could have risen above the issues and won the game. But to say that all of the above had nothing to do with the officiating is absurd.
 
I think this is a good move by Nate. My only complaint is that he waited one game too long to do it. Just think if he did this after game three (which had equally poor officiating), it could've very well made the difference between us winning and losing.

Oh well, better late than never.
 
The NBA is becoming a lot like Ice Skating or Gynamistics... or any of the judged sports. It is sad.
 
Paxil said:
The NBA is becoming a lot like Ice Skating or Gynamistics... or any of the judged sports. It is sad.
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Totally expected some type of punch line about leotards or or classical music here, I am disappointed.
 
ABM said:
I simply related a segment of the game (unaffected by the reffing) whereas the Blazers lost control. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Valid point about that sequence ABM. Now suppose the officials don't blow a couple of calls previous (or post) that incident and give the Blazers free throws?

I can pick out any section of the game and say "this is what cost the Blazers", but it's more than just one area - that's why the game lasts four quarters!
 
The officials need to no longer be employed by the NBA. They should be a seperate company that is contracted by the NBA to officiate games and to conduct training seminars. If they are not employed by the league then they will not be influenced by the league to call the games in a certain manner. It is quite simple, Czar Stern gives a copy of the leagues official rules to the new company and they interpret and call games according to the book.

Better yet, lets get on board with the rest of the world and adopt the trapezoid lane, five fouls your out and use international refs. This shit has to end and the game of basketball needs to be reintroduced to the NBA. So what if the NBA is full of great athletes that can knock the shit out of each other up and down the court. That is not basketball. What we saw in the Olympics was basketball.
 
ABM said:
On a slightly different note, the Blazers were up 13-6, when the Rockets went on a 19-4 tear. Primarily, the damage was a result of:

a) Blazer turnovers
b) Rockets (continuous) Offensive Rebounds
c) Rockets good (wide open) outside shooting' Blazers poor (or indecisive) outside shooting.
d) Rockets hustle and aggressive play

None of the play during this portion was affected by poor officiating. And, IMO, this is the portion of the game where Portland lost control.....and eventually the game.
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I don't remember about that specific run, (though I do remember being frustrated by an over the back by Scola that wasn't called) but I can tell you that as the game went on you could easily notice that those "hustle" offensive rebounds were more "Go over, under or through whoever is in your way to get a rebound because the refs aren't calling jack didly crap on us" rebounds.
 
yakbladder said:
Valid point about that sequence ABM. Now suppose the officials don't blow a couple of calls previous (or post) that incident and give the Blazers free throws?

I can pick out any section of the game and say "this is what cost the Blazers", but it's more than just one area - that's why the game lasts four quarters!
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This is true. It just seemed to me that the Blazers were confident coming out, then they chucked it away.

To be honest, though, I believe the real reason they lost all happened in the 4th quarter:

a) 7 Blazer turnovers
b) Something like 10 Rocket offensive rebounds...leading to, like, 13, 2nd chance points
c) Lowry taking the charge on Roy
d) Battier's 2 treys
e) Nate selecting Outlaw (as opposed to Rudy) to take the last shot
 
ABM said:
This is true. It just seemed to me that the Blazers were confident coming out, then they chucked it away.

To be honest, though, I believe the real reason they lost all happened in the 4th quarter:

a) 7 Blazer turnovers
b) Something like 10 Rocket offensive rebounds...leading to, like, 13, 2nd chance points
c) Lowry taking the charge on Roy
d) Battier's 2 treys
e) Nate selecting Outlaw (as opposed to Rudy) to take the last shot
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6 Turnovers and a charge, or 7 turnovers and leave the charge out.

Outlaw taking that last shot isn't what lost us the game, the shit that happened before, when we were up 6 lost us the game.

the offensive rebounds are because they were able to be MUCH more physical w/us than we are w/them, which is why a lot of us our complaining. Have you see Battier and Artest grab Roy's and Trout's jersey? I have countless times, then when posting up, they're hooking, pushing, shoving, etc. B-Roy has to do it too, but then you take that stuff, and you move it over to the Center position, and bam, we get called.
 
The timing of this is pretty stupid though. We don't want even calls at home. ;) We want them on the road. Seriously... say nothing and we'd prolly have gotten some home cooking. Bring it to their attention and I bet they will make sure it is even. If the whole serious was that way then fine... but it would have been nice to get some home cooking. Oh well.
 
Lame. Blazers lost CLEARLY when they had the lead because of they got outplayed. But somehow, there's always people willing to blame refs. Even when you lose by 27 :sigh:
 
FYI

HOUSTON’S RICK ADELMAN, PORTLAND’S NATE MCMILLAN
AND BOSTON’S DOC RIVERS ALL FINED
– Rockets, Blazers and Celtics Organizations Also Fined –

NEW YORK, April 28, 2009 – Houston Rockets head coach Rick Adelman,
Portland Trail Blazers head coach Nate McMillan and Boston Celtics head
coach Doc Rivers each have been fined $25,000 for publicly criticizing
game officials, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive
Vice President, Basketball Operations. The Rockets, Blazers and Celtics
were each also fined $25,000 for their coach's comments.

Adelman was fined for his comments made between Games 3 and 4 of the
Rockets’ series with the Blazers. McMillan was fined for comments made
between Games 4 and 5 of the Blazers-Rockets series. Rivers was fined
for his comments made between Games 4 and 5 of the Celtics’ series with
the Chicago Bulls.
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"Let's fine Nate and Doc for bitching about our series managemenr... err, reffing!"

"We better fine Rick too, he bitched like none other between 3 and 4."

"But we were going to give them more calls anyway..."

"We have to pretend to be fair."

"Oh right... my bad. Fine them all!"
 
BeerBoy said:
FYI
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Excellent!

Now, in addition to penalizing the public whining, they need to stop listening to ANY and ALL "input" from coaches and teams between games. Wait until the play-offs are over and then solicit input, make any necessary rule changes and start the next season with a consistent baseline. Changing the way games are called mid-series is total bullshit. A foul is a foul is a foul. No amount of bitching should change that.

BTW, didn't Rick also complain publically about the officiating after game 2? If so, should he be fined $50,000 - not $25,000 like Nate and Doc?

BNM
 
BlazerCaravan said:
"Let's fine Nate and Doc for bitching about our series managemenr... err, reffing!"

"We better fine Rick too, he bitched like none other between 3 and 4."

"But we were going to give them more calls anyway..."

"We have to pretend to be fair."

"Oh right... my bad. Fine them all!"
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The funny part about these quotes is that it's all David Stern talking to himself.
 
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