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Camera + NBA GM + alcohol + farm animals = 15th spot on the roster. :lol:
 
Schilly said:
Mills would have played overseas this year so I doubt we signed him just to give him money... Hi agent would likely do that till he was healed anyway. If he were to go to Europe we wouldn't have signed him at all. By signing him we are committed to keeping him or forfeiting him. There is no signing him and not having him utilize a roster spot unless we waive him in which case we lose him altogether.

KP has no reason to sign him just to cut him 2 weeks later. I tend to always suspect trades and they never happen, so Im trying not to suspect a trade this time, but the parts of the equation seem to spell T R A D E.
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Welcome back! :)

Ed O.
 
Schilly said:
Mills would have played overseas this year so I doubt we signed him just to give him money... Hi agent would likely do that till he was healed anyway. If he were to go to Europe we wouldn't have signed him at all. By signing him we are committed to keeping him or forfeiting him. There is no signing him and not having him utilize a roster spot unless we waive him in which case we lose him altogether.

KP has no reason to sign him just to cut him 2 weeks later. I tend to always suspect trades and they never happen, so Im trying not to suspect a trade this time, but the parts of the equation seem to spell T R A D E.
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I said several weeks ago that Mills may have to be the answer for this team for quick guards.
I suspect a trade as well. Some of the lethargic play may very well be attributed to this. But who would be available.
 
I agree with something Nate (I think it was him) once said in that 'point guards are not made, they're born'. In other words, Bayless may have a lot of positive attributes, but being a PG isn't one of them and never will be. But Mills is a true PG. As such, he can learn a couple of years behind Miller and possibly take over as either our starting or back up PG. I like this move and hope we keep him to see how he pans out.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
I agree with something Nate (I think it was him) once said in that 'point guards are not made, they're born'. In other words, Bayless may have a lot of positive attributes, but being a PG isn't one of them and never will be. But Mills is a true PG. As such, he can learn a couple of years behind Miller and possibly take over as either our starting or back up PG. I like this move and hope we keep him to see how he pans out.
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You never watched him play for St. Mary's did you? He's a short scoring guard just like Bayless.
 
Seems a lot like the Batum or McRoberts signings. We're all speculating if there's some hidden motivation, but it'll probably wind up that the Blazers see something in him that I don't, and they just want him on the roster. Hopefully this is more "Batum" and less "McRoberts."
 
PapaG said:
Bayless trade? Blake trade?

Here we go!
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That would be my guess. Bayless trade this season and a wait-see on Blake for next season.
 
ABM said:
That would be my guess. Bayless trade this season and a wait-see on Blake for next season.
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Maybe KP calls Nate's bluff, and trades Blake.

But that might upset Roy, and god knows we need to bend over backwards to make sure he gets his stats.
 
My guess would be it's Miller and one of our starters for a much better PG.
 
Nikolokolus said:
You never watched him play for St. Mary's did you? He's a short scoring guard just like Bayless.
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Yep. His game is predicated on being the fastest guy on the court. If that injury costs him *any* of his speed, he goes from "possible NBA sleeper", to "begging for a job" status.
 
Mills has been signed to take over the starting pg position so we can bolster our second unit.
 
MARIS61 said:
My guess would be it's Miller and one of our starters for a much better PG.
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We can't trade Miller until 12/15/09 at the earliest IIRC. I suspect a consolidation trade (PLEASE GOD LET IT BE FOR CONLEY!) involving some of the following: Bayless, Martell, Przybilla, Outlaw, Fernandez, Blake, Pendergraph and Cunningham.

You could even do something super epic like this.

I expect something alot simpler if a trade occurs though. This would shore up the PG spot and get rid of the glut of guys who needs shots. We also get a great back up F/C in Gasol.
 
Idog1976 said:
We can't trade Miller until 12/15/09 at the earliest IIRC. I suspect a consolidation trade (PLEASE GOD LET IT BE FOR CONLEY!) involving some of the following: Bayless, Martell, Przybilla, Outlaw, Fernandez, Blake, Pendergraph and Cunningham.

You could even do something super epic like this.

I expect something alot simpler if a trade occurs though. This would shore up the PG spot and get rid of the glut of guys who needs shots. We also get a great back up F/C in Gasol.
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"Hollinger's analysis" of proposed trade: -5 wins. :devilwink:
 
oldmangrouch said:
"Hollinger's analysis" of proposed trade: -5 wins. :devilwink:
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Right and Hollinger's predictions hold up oh so well. I'm sure adding Miller and dropping Frye/Sergio was plus 7 wins or so. Thus far the board seems to think we will implode (and by the board I mean about three or four vocal minority types). I was just trying to send Joel home and Blake with him while getting rid of guys who need shots in Rudy, Bayless and Outlaw while bringing us back potential future PG's (Flynn and Conley) and a decent backup big in Gasol. I'm sure my trade would never happen, you can't solve all your problems in one move...except on ESPN trade machine!
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
So it looks like Mills forced their hand, probably in the expectation he will become a free agent, and able to compete for some team not so deep. I would be really surprised if the Blazers don't waive him.
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I read it as they were doing him a favor, by signing him to the non guaranteed contract and eventually waiving him/picking him for the 15th spot, he's free to get some PT elsewhere once his foot heals and not stuck in a 4PG rotation.

Had Mills declined to sign the contract, the Blazers would have retained his rights and he could have attempted to make the Blazers’ regular season roster next season.
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I don't think they will drop him. When they drafted him, they were awfully high on him. I have to assume they still are. What he did, when he signed the contract, I believe sealed the fate of Udoka and Collins.
 
I'd like to see what mills can do on this team. Anyone know how good his perimeter d is?

Random ot. Is the game televised tonight? I'm in Vegas and would like to catch it if I can
 
The explanation makes sense, but KP's response makes it just as confusing.
 
cdub503 said:
I'd like to see what mills can do on this team. Anyone know how good his perimeter d is?

Random ot. Is the game televised tonight? I'm in Vegas and would like to catch it if I can
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Mills is 5'11" to 6'0" ... it doesn't matter how much "scrappy do" he's got in him I don't think you would ever be able to think of him as a defender; he's slightly built, he built his college career on speed on the offensive end of the court and guys are always going to be able to either post him up or shoot over the top of him.
 
ironcrotch said:
I read it as they were doing him a favor, by signing him to the non guaranteed contract and eventually waiving him/picking him for the 15th spot, he's free to get some PT elsewhere once his foot heals and not stuck in a 4PG rotation.
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I don't see it as them doing him a favor; they are forced by NBA rules to tender a contract; I think they advised him it would be best if he not accept the contract, but instead play in Europe for a year. I think he decided not to take their advice, thereby putting the Blazers in kind of a bad spot. In this case I think his priorities are right, his loyalty at this time is to himself, not to the Blazers. He can still play in Europe after the Blazers waive him, but then next year he will be free to sign with any team.
 
Interesting, I had no idea that the team was required to offer a contract to 2nd round draft picks. Looking at the Coon FAQ, it does appear to be true. It also seems to be the case that the deadline for offering the contract was Sept 6th, so apparently Mills sat on the offer for at least several weeks before deciding to sign it.

barfo
 
Nikolokolus said:
Mills is 5'11" to 6'0" ... it doesn't matter how much "scrappy do" he's got in him I don't think you would ever be able to think of him as a defender; he's slightly built, he built his college career on speed on the offensive end of the court and guys are always going to be able to either post him up or shoot over the top of him.
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From DraftExpress, measurements the year each was drafted:

Height w/o shoes:
Chris Paul: 5'11.75"
Mike Conley: 5'11.75"
Patty Mills: 5'11.25"
Jameer Nelson: 5'11"
TJ Ford: 5'11"
Aaron Brooks: 5'10.5"
DJ Augustin: 5'10"

Weight:
Jameer Nelson: 199
Chris Paul: 178
Patty Mills: 175
Mike Conley: 175
DJ Augustin: 172
TJ Ford: 162
Aaron Brooks: 161

Reach:
Patty Mills: 7'11"
Jameer Nelson: 7'11"
Mike Conley: 7'10.5"
DJ Augustin: 7'10.5"
Aaron Brooks: 7'10"
TJ Ford: 7'9.5"
Chris Paul: 7'9"

Just sayin'.

(Remember, Chris Paul was voted First Team All-Defense this past year, and I don't think we'd be talking about waiving any of the players on that list just because they're small.)
 
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UKRAINEFAN said:
So it looks like Mills forced their hand, probably in the expectation he will become a free agent, and able to compete for some team not so deep. I would be really surprised if the Blazers don't waive him.
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Why even offer him then? Just give up his rights and find the next Andre Miller.
 
PapaG said:
Why even offer him then? Just give up his rights and find the next Andre Miller.
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I believe they offered him because that was the only chance they had to keep control of him as an asset; IF they were able to persuade him not to sign, but to go over to Europe for a year.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I believe they offered him because that was the only chance they had to keep control of him as an asset; IF they were able to persuade him not to sign, but to go over to Europe for a year.
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Unless they plan on trading him before the season, he'll either be waived or kept on the 15-man roster.

Seems to me they are planning on keeping him as an asset over Udoka or Collins.:dunno:
 
barfo said:
Interesting, I had no idea that the team was required to offer a contract to 2nd round draft picks. Looking at the Coon FAQ, it does appear to be true. It also seems to be the case that the deadline for offering the contract was Sept 6th, so apparently Mills sat on the offer for at least several weeks before deciding to sign it.
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I agree... and I didn't know teams HAD to tender offers. Is that the case with first rounders, too?

I agree with those that say he won't be a Blazer. I can't see the team using two spots on injured second-rounders.

Ed O.
 
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