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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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Natebishop3 said:
GSW is also extremely good at drafting talent.
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Could be argued that they screwed up both of the last two drafts pretty badly.

Took Wiseman over Ball.

Took Kuminga over Wagner. I like JK, but Wagner is a better player. Even Moody at 14 seemed like an overdraft.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's like people forget that they still have Draymond, they still have Klay, and then they added Wiggins, a few lottery picks, and GSW is also extremely good at drafting talent. God I wish we had their front office.
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Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody, Poole, Looney.....

Get back to us when Portland has two players in the Draymond, Wiggins, Klay talent tier, let alone one.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not sure if Ball makes sense for them though. That draft overall looks pretty weak when you go back and look at the lottery.
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LaMelo was an all star in year 2. I think he woulda fit extremely well next to Curry, especially with how amazing Steph is off the ball. I really think Wiseman was more of a fit pick than BPA.
 
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illmatic99 said:
LaMelo was an all star in year 2. I think he woulda fit extremely well next to Curry, especially with how amazing Steph is off the ball. I really think Wiseman was more of a fit pick than BPA.
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Would he have been an All-Star if he had gone to GS though?

I think LaMelo thrived because he went to a team that lacked an identity and he was given full control. I don't see that happening in GS.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Would he have been an All-Star if he had gone to GS though?

I think LaMelo thrived because he went to a team that lacked an identity and he was given full control. I don't see that happening in GS.
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i think he would have started on the all star team if he was in GS. he's really popular among fans.
 
illmatic99 said:
Could be argued that they screwed up both of the last two drafts pretty badly.

Took Wiseman over Ball.

Took Kuminga over Wagner. I like JK, but Wagner is a better player. Even Moody at 14 seemed like an overdraft.
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no he’s not.
 
Scalma said:
^ has to change subject
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no. i'm fairly certain you don't know who franz wagner is.

And i'm pretty sure you're not interested in an actual discussion so why bother.

I didn't see Kuminga anywhere on the rookie teams: but guess who was on first team?

Wagner averaged 15/5/3 on 56% TS and was able to play 31 mpg.
Kuminga averaged 9/3/1 on 60% TS and played only 17 mpg.

Wagner is taller and bigger and showed real playmaking chops. Kuminga (who should have honestly played more) could not be trusted by Kerr because of his fairly limited skillset at this point. He was a good pick, but Wagner was better.
 
illmatic99 said:
no. i'm fairly certain you don't know who franz wagner is.
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Remember when you were surprised when someone else on here called you condescending?

Btw trying to call me out for not knowing who a European is, like what are you thinking, I’ve seen most those dudes in person. Wrong lane.

Kuminga is younger, more athletic, better defensively, and maybe most importantly will be developed by Golden States staff instead of Orlando’s. If you wanna look at stats though, Kuminga averaged more points/100 (on fewer attempts) and got to the line at nearly double the rate. His ws/48 were better as well. Mix in the before mentioned defense, as well as his rebounding and you’ve got the better player.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
But if the Heat really want him, wouldn't that up your opinion of him. They don't make many mistakes personnel wise.
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Grant would be a great fit for the Blazers. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Is he a star or a #2 option? No. But I think he could be one of the league's premiere role players.
 
illmatic99 said:
no. i'm fairly certain you don't know who franz wagner is.

And i'm pretty sure you're not interested in an actual discussion so why bother.

I didn't see Kuminga anywhere on the rookie teams: but guess who was on first team?

Wagner averaged 15/5/3 on 56% TS and was able to play 31 mpg.
Kuminga averaged 9/3/1 on 60% TS and played only 17 mpg.

Wagner is taller and bigger and showed real playmaking chops. Kuminga (who should have honestly played more) could not be trusted by Kerr.
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Kuminga showed real promise off the bench and throughout the season, having an actual impact for a team winning many games that went on to win the title.

Wagner was handed a role on one of the worst teams in the league.

I'm much more impressed by Kuminga season. Very rare to see a rookie do that, and at age 19 with his size.

Either player is very young, with potential and could develop much more over the decade ahead. So I wouldn't be surprised if either ends up vastly different than today. But its not some for sure case that Wagner is better now or was better this last season.
 
Scalma said:
Remember when you were surprised when someone else on here called you condescending?
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and you arent? you literally tell everyone off here when you disagree. It's funny to see you get triggered when you get called on it.

Btw trying to call me out for not knowing who a European is, like what are you thinking, I’ve seen most those dudes in person. Wrong lane.
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kudos to you.
I'm gonna try to stop with the back and forth nonsense because it really is unnecessary. And "wrong lane..." lol, just can't stop with the superiority complex can you?

Kuminga is younger, more athletic, better defensively, and maybe most importantly will be developed by Golden States staff instead of Orlando’s. If you wanna look at stats though, Kuminga averaged more points/100 (on fewer attempts) and got to the line at nearly double the rate. His ws/48 were better as well. Mix in the before mentioned defense, as well as his rebounding and you’ve got the better player.
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If Wagner was on GS, would he not have have played in the finals?

This is a frustrating debate because I actually like Kuminga and would give serious thought to trading our #7 for him. But Wagner showed way more readiness and ability than JK. The voting for rookie teams shows me I'm not off base.
 
I'm going to ride with this rumor with a rumor I'll make up now....Jimmy Butler wants to play with Dame and demanded a trade so this will be a 3 team deal with Portland, Miami and Detroit! You read it here first!!!
 
illmatic99 said:
and you arent? you literally tell everyone off here when you disagree. It's funny to see you get triggered when you get called on it.



kudos to you.
I'm gonna try to stop with the back and forth nonsense because it really is unnecessary. And "wrong lane..." lol, just can't stop with the superiority complex can you?



If Wagner was on GS, would he not have have played in the finals?

This is a frustrating debate because I actually like Kuminga and would give serious thought to trading our #7 for him. But Wagner showed way more readiness and ability than JK. The voting for rookie teams shows me I'm not off base.
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wrong lane = don’t call me out on something I probably spend more time on than anything in life, nothing to do with superiority complex.

And no Wagner would have not played in the finals if he were on golden state, they had an 8 man rotation. Even Bjelica didn’t play that much and he was a solid rotation player for them the whole season.
 
Scalma said:
And no Wagner would have not played in the finals if he were on golden state, they had an 8 man rotation. Even Bjelica didn’t play that much and he was a solid rotation player for them the whole season.
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I had a lot of issue with Kerr's rotations. I hate that he was validated by winning, but I will disagree with this. I think Wagner would have been their sixth best player this year.
 
illmatic99 said:
I had a lot of issue with Kerr's rotations. I hate that he was validated by winning.
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or maybe he just knows better than some fan on a message board? (And this applies to every fan, not just you. I’m included as well)
 
Scalma said:
or maybe he just knows better than some fan on a message board?
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or maybe he got bailed out by a top ten player in the history of the league.

whatever... besides the point.

let's get back to who Portland will trade 7 for. This is more unnecessary discussion over irrelevant stuff at the moment.
 
Hopefully he goes to Miami

Pat would be saving dumbass Cronin from himself
 
Fez Forthright said:
Hopefully he goes to Miami

Pat would be saving dumbass Cronin from himself
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So Pat wants Grant? Guess that makes him a dumbass too. Whatever. Nothing Joe has done so far makes him a dumbass. But if paying your dues, and becoming a GM is a dumbass, sign me up.
 
tykendo said:
So Pat wants Grant? Guess that makes him a dumbass too. Whatever. Nothing Joe has done so far makes him a dumbass. But if paying your dues, and becoming a GM is a dumbass, sign me up.
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Pat don’t have a top-10 pick to trade for the upcoming UFA Grant.
 
tykendo said:
So Pat wants Grant? Guess that makes him a dumbass too. Whatever. Nothing Joe has done so far makes him a dumbass. But if paying your dues, and becoming a GM is a dumbass, sign me up.
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I'd call trading 4 starters for Hart, Didi and scrubs dumb. Is he an ass? If so then yes he's a dumbass.
 
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