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The Blazers trade #7 for?

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Grant

  • Multiple picks - keep one, trade one for Collins

  • Down to #11 and get Randle

  • Down to #17 and get Wood

  • Include #7 with Nurk (S&T) for Ayton

  • OG Anunoby

  • Plus other assets to move up

  • Other - please specify

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illmatic99 said:
Our ceiling with dort on our team taking minutes from Ant, Little, and Hart while not filling our gaping holes at 3/4 is a 41 win team.
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Star role player bullshit is the same thing people were saying when we traded for dudes like Roco and Nance.

We aren't a small piece away. We need top talent, not role players. Trading away #7 for anything less than a star player is so stupid.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Star role player bullshit is the same thing people were saying when we traded for dudes like Roco and Nance.

We aren't a small piece away. We need top talent, not role players. Trading away #7 for anything less than a star player is so stupid.
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i don't think people realize how far away we are from contending. Dort is more like the icing on top. We don't yet have the base of the cake yet.

(channeling my inner KP to an extent with this analogy)
 
Dort is the type of player you pick up when you are contending. Portland is on step one of say a seven step rebuild. Dort would be step six. He has no business on a rebuilding Portland team until steps 1-5 have been completed.
 
BIG Q said:
Dort is the type of player you pick up when you are contending. Portland is on step one of say a seven step rebuild. Dort would be step six. He has no business on a rebuilding Portland team until steps 1-5 have been completed.
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we aren’t on step 1 since we have Dame. But I agree, we are on step 3-4 of 7. Until you’re at level 6-7, you focus on stars or potential stars, not the dorts and grants of the league. They will always be available for future firsts when you need them.
 
I am getting SICK and tired of the Blazers being linked to SMALL guards --- I have nothing against Dort but the Blazers need to stop with this fetish for getting more small guards IF the rumor is true.

--- This is such a crazy time and when all is said and done the Blazers MIGHT end up with one of the names that are always linked too them but my gut says someone we NEVER saw coming will be a Blazer too .


Made a edit to post cause I read it quickly and thought it was talking a 3 way deal but after re-reading just the Blazers getting Dort. If rumor true and the Blazers better have a lot more up there sleeves if they think this will get Dame a ring or at least a decent chance at one.
 
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RR7 said:
Can't combine free agents with current picks. It doesn't happen. Why do people keep on doing this.
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you need to make this statement your avatar or put it in your signature or something
 
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illmatic99 said:
i don't think people realize how far away we are from contending. Dort is more like the icing on top. We don't yet have the base of the cake yet.

(channeling my inner KP to an extent with this analogy)
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The funny thing is, I was just told last week nobody around here thinks we are close to contending.

Thinking about acquiring dudes like Dort, Grant, OG etc. Are all nice pieces to have. I wouldn't trade the #7 pick for any of them though. It will just have us firmly in purgatory.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Collins is 24. Are we talking about a 24-year-old Melo? I would take that.
Seriously though what if Hart starts with Dame and Collins and either Winslow/Little? Simons can come off the bench and still get his minutes.
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So the plan would be to to have a lineup of Dame/Hart/Winslow/Collins/Nurk? Then have Simons off the bench.

That isn't a contending team. I'm not sure they even make the playoffs, maybe they get to the playin as the Hawks did. So I wouldn't want the Blazers to give up draft picks, especially the #7 pick if that is the roster we end up with.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
The funny thing is, I was just told last week nobody around here thinks we are close to contending.

Thinking about acquiring dudes like Dort, Grant, OG etc. Are all nice pieces to have. I wouldn't trade the #7 pick for any of them though. It will just have us firmly in purgatory.
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Yeah those are 5th/6th type of options to build a contender. We might have option 4. We need options 2 and 3.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Star role player bullshit is the same thing people were saying when we traded for dudes like Roco and Nance.

We aren't a small piece away. We need top talent, not role players. Trading away #7 for anything less than a star player is so stupid.
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At least when we added Roco/Nance they were part of getting the 5th starter/6th man for a playoff team.

These Dort/Grant/OG/Collins moves for #7 would be much worse than Roco or Nance.

It makes absolutely no sense to trade 4 starters away for Hart, then trade away our good picks for 1 or 2 similarly skilled starters. The Blazers will be worse than they were last year, and lose all their picks as well.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
So the plan would be to to have a lineup of Dame/Hart/Winslow/Collins/Nurk? Then have Simons off the bench.

That isn't a contending team. I'm not sure they even make the playoffs, maybe they get to the playin as the Hawks did. So I wouldn't want the Blazers to give up draft picks, especially the #7 pick if that is the roster we end up with.
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Well, to be more precise, it would be Dame/Hart/Winslow/Collins/Nurk, plus Ant/Nas, plus whoever we sign with the MLE, plus whoever we trade for with the TPE.

Decent chance it could end up as Dame/Hart/Grant/Collins/Nurk, plus Ant/Nas/Winslow/(Bryant/Bamba/Smith/Boucher--whoever they can get with the MLE).

That's a good team. I'd like it better if we could accomplish that while also adding a lottery-pick draftee, but I wouldn't be upset about that squad.
 
Scalma said:
says who? You?
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I'd think the goal should be to build a contender, right? Adding Dort to a roster with Dame/Simons/Hart and not much else doesn't get the team any closer. Losing the #7 pick, or trading down, gets them far further away from contending.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
So the plan would be to to have a lineup of Dame/Hart/Winslow/Collins/Nurk? Then have Simons off the bench.

That isn't a contending team. I'm not sure they even make the playoffs, maybe they get to the playin as the Hawks did. So I wouldn't want the Blazers to give up draft picks, especially the #7 pick if that is the roster we end up with.
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I like Little. I am not buying into his injuries are any more of an issue than say, Grant or Collins.
So I would plug him in at SF.

But to your point, no it's not a contender. And adding Grant and his salary probably does not get us any closer either. (If we get Collins)

So the debate in my mind is a 24-year-old Collins? Or #7 and Grant.
But not Grant and Collins)
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Well, to be more precise, it would be Dame/Hart/Winslow/Collins/Nurk, plus Ant/Nas, plus whoever we sign with the MLE, plus whoever we trade for with the TPE.

Decent chance it could end up as Dame/Hart/Grant/Collins/Nurk, plus Ant/Nas/Winslow/(Bryant/Bamba/Smith/Boucher--whoever they can get with the MLE).

That's a good team. I'd like it better if we could accomplish that while also adding a lottery-pick draftee, but I wouldn't be upset about that squad.
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I'll also say that in a vacuum, that would essentially equate to having traded CJ/Norm/Roco/Nance/22#1 for Hart/Grant/Winslow/Collins/21#1 (Keon). All-in-all, that's about equal value.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I'd think the goal should be to build a contender, right? Adding Dort to a roster with Dame/Simons/Hart and not much else doesn't get the team any closer. Losing the #7 pick, or trading down, gets them far further away from contending.
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the assumption here being that all those guys would actually be on the roster together. All I know is Dort is a stud, and if I got to choose between him and Hart I would choose Dort
 
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