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TBpup said:
"Haters" will always be haters, but too often that term gets thrown around towards anyone who may disagree, sometimes in the least little bit. That is where reality starts to take a holiday. No public medium will ever make everyone happy and trying to do so is a waste of time. Do what you do, always try to be growing and getting better, and it will be fine. That applies to just about anything in life.
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Look at the most successful hosts of sports type shows. Stephen A smith, skip bayless. Shannon sharpe. Max kellerman. These people say ridiculous things on the daily. They let criticism roll off their shoulders. They carry on. They don't get in arguments with every person that might disagree. The industry requires thick skin. You think tv networks would allow someone on tv that is going to call out a bunch of people with a different opinion than them? Not a chance. That is a liability to them. Even Marang got better at dealing with criticism. When he first started posted here he did not take it well. He still gets in little battles but he is so much better than he was. And i don't even care for his takes.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Look at the most successful hosts of sports type shows. Stephen A smith, skip bayless. Shannon sharpe. Max kellerman. These people say ridiculous things on the daily. They let criticism roll off their shoulders. They carry on. They don't get in arguments with every person that might disagree. The industry requires thick skin. You think tv networks would allow someone on tv that is going to call out a bunch of people with a different opinion than them? Not a chance. That is a liability to them. Even Marang got better at dealing with criticism. When he first started posted here he did not take it well. He still gets in little battles but he is so much better than he was. And i don't even care for his takes.
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Sorry Puss, Id much rather watch blazersuprise than Stephen A or Bayless.
 
Hoopguru said:
Sorry Puss, Id much rather watch blazersuprise than Stephen A or Bayless.
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And that's fine. Everyone has their tastes. Of course you would because they focus on Blazer stuff. They are also usually very high on the Blazers so if you are optimistic, you'll enjoy their content. When someone thinks we can end up this years Utah after acquiring Larry Nance in the offseason, I can't take that take seriously. But I respect their opinion.

I'm just saying. Thick skin is required for the industry. Just focus on making good content, not arguing with people that have different opinions and trashing those opinions.
 
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SlyPokerCat said:
Look at the most successful hosts of sports type shows. Stephen A smith, skip bayless. Shannon sharpe. Max kellerman. These people say ridiculous things on the daily. They let criticism roll off their shoulders. They carry on. They don't get in arguments with every person that might disagree. The industry requires thick skin. You think tv networks would allow someone on tv that is going to call out a bunch of people with a different opinion than them? Not a chance. That is a liability to them. Even Marang got better at dealing with criticism. When he first started posted here he did not take it well. He still gets in little battles but he is so much better than he was. And i don't even care for his takes.
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Oh okay, everything you've said makes sense now.
 
hoopsjock said:
Oh okay, everything you've said makes sense now.
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Glad we could make things clearer for you I guess.

Like I said. I hope the best for you both. Hope you end up taking the channel wherever you want to go. I can feel that way and still disagree with some of your takes.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
And that's fine. Everyone has their tastes. Of course you would because they focus on Blazer stuff. They are also udually high on the Blazers so if you are optimistic, you'll enjoy their content. When someone thinks we can end up this years Utah after acquiring Larry Nance in the offseason, I can't take the takes seriously. But I respect their opinion.

I'm just saying. Thick skin is required for the industry. Just focus on making good content, not arguing with people that have different opinions and trashing those opinions.
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You're bashing us for being argumentative by trying to start shit?

Don't watch if you don't like us. It doesn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is when people think they know me or what's best for me based on an opinion that's misguided because they don't like us.

I don't care about making it in this industry. I will always stick up for what I believe in. I got doxxed on Twitter for calling out "Blazer fans" who were making fun of KAT's mom dying. I'll do it again too. Other platforms are disrespectful to people that watch our show. I'm going to have those people's backs every time. Funny how that makes me someone who is constantly getting in arguments but the people starting it include someone you perceive as "improving."

First two seasons Torey and I were constantly told we were too negative. Now because we had high hopes for this team, we were too positive. That's the thing though. We're never going to please everyone. So we just say what we believe, not what we think people want to hear.

Thus why it's frustrating when people want us to be fake. You alluded to the fakest show and person out there with thinner skin than Torey and I. Multiple people that have worked with him will back that up. If that's what you like, watch his stuff, just don't pretend other people are any different than us.
 
hoopsjock said:
You're bashing us for being argumentative by trying to start shit?

Don't watch if you don't like us. It doesn't bother me one bit. What bothers me is when people think they know me or what's best for me based on an opinion that's misguided because they don't like us.

I don't care about making it in this industry. I will always stick up for what I believe in. I got doxxed on Twitter for calling out "Blazer fans" who were making fun of KAT's mom dying. I'll do it again too. Other platforms are disrespectful to people that watch our show. I'm going to have those people's backs every time. Funny how that makes me someone who is constantly getting in arguments but the people starting it include someone you perceive as "improving."

First two seasons Torey and I were constantly told we were too negative. Now because we had high hopes for this team, we were too positive. That's the thing though. We're never going to please everyone. So we just say what we believe, not what we think people want to hear.

Thus why it's frustrating when people want us to be fake. You alluded to the fakest show and person out there with thinner skin than Torey and I. Multiple people that have worked with him will back that up. If that's what you like, watch his stuff, just don't pretend other people are any different than us.
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That's the thing. You are really defensive. I'm not trying to argue over and over with you. I've said multiple times. I hope you all do well. You put together a fine show. The production continues to get better and better. I have respect for you both for what you are doing.

I told you i'm not a fan of Marang. But he was way worse when he first started posting here. He isn't the only person ya'll argue with.

That is good you stick up for the comment about KATs mom. That comment was ridiculous. I commend you for doing that.

You may not have hopes to be in the industry. Does your partner feel the same?
 
My goodness. Even when you wish someone well, they come back on you. It's kind of proving the point, no?
 
TBpup said:
My goodness. Even when you wish someone well, they come back on you. It's kind of proving the point, no?
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I really am rooting for them. It would be cool to see them on TV. I check in on their youtube every once in awhile to see how things are going. Hence, why I know the production is getting better and better. I disagree often with their takes. But that doesn't mean I don't respect some of them.

I can start arguments sometimes when I don't mean too. That isn't hard to admit for me. Seems like it is harder to admit for others.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
That's the thing. You are really defensive. I'm not trying to argue over and over with you. I've said multiple times. I hope you all do well. You put together a fine show. The production continues to get better and better. I have respect for you both for what you are doing.

I told you i'm not a fan of Marang. But he was way worse when he first started posting here. He isn't the only person ya'll argue with.

That is good you stick up for the comment about KATs mom. That comment was ridiculous. I commend you for doing that.

You may not have hopes to be in the industry. Does your partner feel the same?
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Why do you care what he's trying to accomplish?
 
TBpup said:
My goodness. Even when you wish someone well, they come back on you. It's kind of proving the point, no?
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If you think him/her throwing in well wishes in between the jabs makes him/her well intentioned, then you've already made up your mind too.

I don't even know who that is. I actually really like my interactions with you but don't recall any interactions with them prior to this. Somehow explaining my side makes me the problem once again.
 
hoopsjock said:
So you're going to figure out what's best for me to help get him there?
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Not at all. You do you man. Hope your channel takes you both wherever you want to go.

I am not a him/her either. I am a cat.
 
Seriously, now a mind reader. My goodness. Multiple times, I've wished success, well wishes, etc. But that is ignored for the one thing that someone might take negatively. I even tried to privately help your show out with some insider info, some time back, but never heard back from either of you. Hope it all works out. I have enough acquaintances and clients in the industry, to know how hard it is to make it and to see the changes they have gone through.

Yet somehow, only anything that isn't glowing affirmations seems to be noticed or commented on. You're better than that.
 
TBpup said:
Seriously, now a mind reader. My goodness. Multiple times, I've wished success, well wishes, etc. But that is ignored for the one thing that someone might take negatively. I even tried to privately help your show out with some insider info, some time back, but never heard back from either of you. Hope it all works out. I have enough acquaintances and clients in the industry, to know how hard it is to make it and to see the changes they have gone through.

Yet somehow, only anything that isn't glowing affirmations seems to be noticed or commented on. You're better than that.
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We can take this private if you want. The last interaction I had on here with you was me reaching out back in March to see how you were doing. Nothing basketball related, but as someone who cares. I don't know what you're referring to about me ignoring insider information. In the past when you've given me stuff it's a "don't say anything" type of information, right?

Again, this has been my point all along. I don't care about the negative comment, I care about false perceptions. Fuck my show, but if you think I ignored you or your help, that would never be the case Larry. I would never do that intentionally.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I told you i'm not a fan of Marang. But he was way worse when he first started posting here. He isn't the only person ya'll argue with.
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He isnt, but here's the deal. I was very argumentative on here for a while. Now I avoid this place because I dont want to argue. The biggest arguments I've gotten in over the past few months are:

- Someone calling my followers brainwashed and a part of a "cult" right after they reached out to me for Youtube advice which I gave simply because they disagreed with one of my followers.

- Someone calling me out for being a terrible person because I sold him a car with no money down because he was homeless and needed it for work. I never got a dime and he got a free car for 3 weeks, but still tried to call me out for it like I somehow scammed him.

- Someone essentially taunting my viewerbase then screaming publically that I personally sent them after him when he finally got them to respond. I actually told them multiple times in a group chat not to go after him, but in the end I'm apparently "brigading" all my followers to go after people I disagree with.

Basically, I'm not starting these interactions and I've been trying to avoid arguments for months. I could've responded better here but your references to us arguing on Twitter because people disagree is actually stuff where other people are being extremely out of line. It's frustrating because I've worked on not being overly-argumentative with people that respectfully disagree on something, but a slip up in one segment here and me standing up against some total bullshit there and its made out like I'm the one who's still out to argue with everyone when I'm honestly not.
 
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BonesJones said:
He isnt, but here's the deal. I was very argumentative on here for a while. Now I avoid this place because I dont want to argue. The biggest arguments I've gotten in over the past few months are:

- Someone calling my followers brainwashed and a part of a "cult" right after they reached out to me for Youtube advice which I gave simply because one of they disagreed with one of my followers.

- Someone calling me out for being a terrible person because I sold him a car with no money down because he was homeless and needed it for work. I never got a dime and he got a free car for 3 weeks, but still tried to call me out for it like I somehow scammed him.

- Someone essentially taunting my viewerbase then screaming publically that I personally sent them after him when he finally got them to respond. I actually told them multiple times in a group chat not to go after him, but in the end I'm apparently "brigading" all my followers to go after people I disagree with.

Basically, I'm not starting these interactions and I've been trying to avoid arguments for months. I could've responded better here but your references to us arguing on Twitter because people disagree is actually stuff where other people are being extremely out of line. It's frustrating because I've worked on not being overly-argumentative with people that respectfully disagree on something, but a slip up in one segment here and me standing up against some total bullshit there and its made out like I'm the one who's still out to argue with everyone when I'm honestly not.
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Thanks for the context and the response. Wish you well and sorry for the drama. Your response is really good and I appreciate it. Hope you figure it out and we can see you on tv or the radio someday.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Thanks for the context and the response. Wish you well and sorry for the drama. Your response is really good and I appreciate it. Hope you figure it out and we can see you on tv or the radio someday.
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For the record, YouTube potentially has avenues that are bigger than most tv or radio opportunities have. So making it to one of those isn't necessarily a step up or better than what we're doing now, if you're good enough (which we aren't).
 
hoopsjock said:
For the record, YouTube potentially has avenues that are bigger than most tv or radio opportunities have. So making it to one of those isn't necessarily a step up or better than what we're doing now, if you're good enough (which we aren't).
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Anyone in the world with internet access can watch our videos and streams live or at any time they want. For example, the Blazers Outsiders post game show on NBCSNW last year could only be viewed by people who have access to that channel. Even most illegal streams of the game will cut out before the post game show is on. Radio apps have gotten much better over the last few years to listen from anywhere, but data shows most younger adults aren't really listening or finding those shows.
 
hoopsjock said:
For the record, YouTube potentially has avenues that are bigger than most tv or radio opportunities have. So making it to one of those isn't necessarily a step up or better than what we're doing now, if you're good enough (which we aren't).
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Keep on keeping on. I know a lot about the youtube structure. I know people that have 50k subs and average a healthy amount of views per daily video. If you dudes want to stay on Youtube that's cool too. Maybe you can get some people that are on tv or radio to be interviewed on your channel.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Keep on keeping on. I know a lot about the youtube structure. I know people that have 50k subs and average a healthy amount of views per daily video. If you dudes want to stay on Youtube that's cool too. Maybe you can get some people that are on tv or radio to be interviewed on your channel.
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Blazers Uprise Postgame Show
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The Blazers get dominated at home for the 2nd straight game and fall to 13-21 on the season. The Jazz picked apart their defense with ease all night long. Come talk about the game with us.
 
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