Game Thread Blazes vs Spurs game 3 Summer League

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In the post I made yesterday, I mentioned even if you include that first game Layman shot .255 from 3-point range as a rookie. He also shot .226 3FG% in the D League and is now shooting .154 3FG% in the summer league. That's a total sample size of 118 shots - more than Allen Crabbe attempted in his first two NBA season's combined.

Don't accuse me of playing the small sample size card when you're the one that mentioned Crabbe shot poorly his rookie year. Yes, the sample size was small, but you're the one who brought it up, not me.

BNM
Crabbe did not shoot well from the field his first two years in the league, and I encourage you to go back and read the comments. But you seem quite invested in labeling Layman a bust already so I'll leave you to it.
 
Crabbe did not shoot well from the field his first two years in the league, and I encourage you to go back and read the comments. But you seem quite invested in labeling Layman a bust already so I'll leave you to it.

It doesn't matter what I label him. He has guaranteed contract for 2017-18. So, he has another year to prove he belongs in the league.

BNM
 
Just watched the DVr, skipped through some cause it sucked. What is the latest news on Collins?
 
Swanigan has not disappointed...this is what you take from summer league....he's in shape right now....I'm going to crown him our #10 pick and Collins the #26

Not sure he'll be a star, but he's going to succeed based on sheer effort. He's going to make it in this league based on his determination. I'm a fan.
 
One of the things that impressed me the most about him is his quick stroke on his three ball. Nice form and release. This is going to be very valuable in the future for this team.
 
Observation - after watching the highlights of Swanigan, the way he gets rebounds and immediately looks for an outlet pass and if it isn't there he isn't afraid to bring the ball up the court himself - kinda reminds me of Cliff Robinson.
 
I'm not panicking too much with Layman right now. It's summer league and our guard play is complete shit. If his jumper still is shaky after this season then I'll probably hop on the disappointment wagon.
why panic or worry, guy is a scrub and has one yr left and hasn't and won't likely ever contribute for this team and like most second rdr's its a total crapshoot and they don't often work out
 
Wonder why Cleveland has barely played. Thought he looked decent in the limited minutes he's had while Hunter and Johnson have been complete shit.
 
Observation - after watching the highlights of Swanigan, the way he gets rebounds and immediately looks for an outlet pass and if it isn't there he isn't afraid to bring the ball up the court himself - kinda reminds me of Cliff Robinson.

Yeah, kinda nice to have a bigger guy that can handle bringing the ball up the floor if need be. As he has alluded to, he's just a basketball player, he might not have a genuine position. That kinda had me concerned at first, but watching him ball, I have little concern now. He is going to be a versatile asset for this team. And I suspect that his personality and what not will mesh well with our fearless floor leader.
 
Maybe rather than coddle these guys and tell them they are special, we should hire a former military drill sergeant to whip them into shape.

You saw the difference in these approaches on display today. Has Gregg Popovich ever coddled a player - EVER? No, he calls out his superstars when he thinks they need a kick in the ass.

BNM

And therein lies the big difference. Pop is tough on everyone, even Duncan. Stotts......well, nothing more needs to be said.


No sense complaining about the 12th and 13th guys on the roster. They are practice fodder who know the offense and defense

What is this 'defense' you speak of?
 
Swanigan has not disappointed...this is what you take from summer league....he's in shape right now....I'm going to crown him our #10 pick and Collins the #26

If you've been paying attention you'd of known Swagitron was the more NBA ready prospect. Olshey pretty much mentioned Collins and Long Term in the same sentence.
 
My only real concern for Swanigan is his ability to switch in high picks. Not sure about his foot speed, where as Vonleh does a great job on switches.
 
Observation - after watching the highlights of Swanigan, the way he gets rebounds and immediately looks for an outlet pass and if it isn't there he isn't afraid to bring the ball up the court himself - kinda reminds me of Cliff Robinson.
He really reminds me of a slightly taller, early Charles Barkley....
 
You've obviously never seen Barkley play much, or it's been so long that you don't remember.
I guess the early part just skipped right by you....you've probably never seen Barkley since he was fat in Houston....go figure...undersized rebounding freak Barkley was...
 
He really reminds me of a slightly taller, early Charles Barkley....

If he lives up to being even half the player that Barkley was, I'll be ecstatic.

Isn't it funny how our #26 pick is playing like a #10 pick, and our #10 pick is playing like a #26 pick?

I think Swanigan is going to have a far easier time adjusting to this league than Collins.
 
You've obviously never seen Barkley play much, or it's been so long that you don't remember.
barkley's rookie year, the sixers still had Dr J and Malone. barkley was not ball dominate then. but grabbing the rebound and leading the break is very reminiscent of a "young"/rookie barkley
 
Any other first ballot Hall of Famers we can compare Swanigan to? Maybe a shorter Shaq? A better rebounding Magic?

I guess it all cancels out in the end. We have the ridiculously positive Swanigan comparisons to balance out the ridiculously negative Collins overreactions.

BNM
 
Any other first ballot Hall of Famers we can compare Swanigan to? Maybe a shorter Shaq? A better rebounding Magic?

I guess it all cancels out in the end. We have the ridiculously positive Swanigan comparisons to balance out the ridiculously negative Collins overreactions.

BNM
you are old enough to remember barkley grabbing a board and taking it all the way to the hole yeah? that was what I found similar.
 
Any other first ballot Hall of Famers we can compare Swanigan to? Maybe a shorter Shaq? A better rebounding Magic?

I guess it all cancels out in the end. We have the ridiculously positive Swanigan comparisons to balance out the ridiculously negative Collins overreactions.

BNM
Duh.
Collins is a cross between a tall Felton, a skinnier Meyers, and a skinny Boumtje Boumtje.

Swanigan is a taller, better Draymond mixed with Lebron, ZBO, Kevin Love, and Jordan.
 
Any other first ballot Hall of Famers we can compare Swanigan to? Maybe a shorter Shaq? A better rebounding Magic?

I guess it all cancels out in the end. We have the ridiculously positive Swanigan comparisons to balance out the ridiculously negative Collins overreactions.

BNM
"To me, Biggie looks like what you'd get if you combined Charles Barkley, Hakeem Olajuwon and probably Chris Webber.

He is all things to all people."
minsteral's post might just be a little over the top however
 
you are old enough to remember barkley grabbing a board and taking it all the way to the hole yeah? that was what I found similar.

I remember Shaq doing the same thing, but I'm not going to compare Swanigan to a young Shaq.

BNM
 

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