Trade Idea Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

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Bledsoe and #7 for Jerami Grant

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • No

    Votes: 75 98.7%
  • Total voters
    76
The answer is no. While I think Jerami Grant would be a really good fit, find another team who just wants to cut salary and is willing to move their vet to do so. IE, Isaac.

Also, people need to stop talking about Christian Wood. He's pretty bad on defense and wouldn't get the shots. We need guys who don't need shots to be effective.
 
blazerkor said:
I wouldn't do that deal, that's terrible for us. What I would be really excited about is if we could turn what we have in the way of Bledsoe, the big TPE and draft capital into Grant and Wood.

So trade 7 for Wood and 17. Then trade Bledsoe, 17 and the Bucks 2025 FRP for Grant. If Cronin did that, gave Grant, Wood and Hart reasonable extensions that only gave them a 1M raise in the first season of their extensions and re-signed Ant and Nurk to reasonable deals. I would really start to like Cronin a lot.

Dame, Ant, Grant, Wood, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise, pick 36, TPMLE could be a rotation that contends. I realize Dame would still be the only bonafide all star but 3-5 we would be stellar defensively and everyone of the guys starting can score. The three guys we know we have coming off the bench can defend and score. This is the kind of squad that would complement Dame, if Ant can be a decent defender and thrive in Chauncey's offense.
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This might have some merit. I don't love the cost though.

In the Rocket's trade, I'd ask for the Bucks '23 1st rounder to come back. On the Detroit trade, I'd try and keep the Bucks '25 1st & send out Keon Johnson instead (also while swapping picks #46 & #59).
 
blazerkor said:
I wouldn't do that deal, that's terrible for us. What I would be really excited about is if we could turn what we have in the way of Bledsoe, the big TPE and draft capital into Grant and Wood.

So trade 7 for Wood and 17. Then trade Bledsoe, 17 and the Bucks 2025 FRP for Grant. If Cronin did that, gave Grant, Wood and Hart reasonable extensions that only gave them a 1M raise in the first season of their extensions and re-signed Ant and Nurk to reasonable deals. I would really start to like Cronin a lot.

Dame, Ant, Grant, Wood, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise, pick 36, TPMLE could be a rotation that contends. I realize Dame would still be the only bonafide all star but 3-5 we would be stellar defensively and everyone of the guys starting can score. The three guys we know we have coming off the bench can defend and score. This is the kind of squad that would complement Dame, if Ant can be a decent defender and thrive in Chauncey's offense.
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Dude. I wish you were our GM and had the superpower of persuasion.
 
LayneStaley said:
Hypothetically is there any financial way to acquire LaVine and Grant if we let Nurk walk? I’m not a big fan of either BUT if we can keep our #7 and can create space or value with Milwaukee 1st, Nurk, Hart, Nas a lineup of…

Dame
Ant
LaVine
Grant
Duren

would excite me, bench would suck though. Just a question so let’s chill on any overly negative feedback.
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Fuck the 3 guard lineup.

Dame/LaVine/Grant/Pick7/Nurk; Ant can come off bench or go elsewhere.
 
We're reaching for things when we think we're going to get Ayton AND keep Nurk AND play Nurk at the 4. Nurk and Ayton on the court at the same time is a formula for giving up 132 ppg and going 20-62. If people thought we were bad defensively before, I'd hate to read this board after we gave up a zillion uncontested corner 3s every game.

I think we're pretty much screwed. The Clippers trade was a salary dump where we didn't get any real assets back. The value of the Pels trade was in the lottery pick we didn't get. Now our lottery pick drops and loses value. And our star player apparently is pushing us to acquire another average guy because he has good vibes with him and really don't have the assets not to overpay for him. Plus, we don't have the resources to go out and get the guys who are on the market who actually could help us.

There was more than the fair share of misfortune in the rebuild, but Cronin didn't do a good job of mitigating the effects bad luck could have ... and he gets rewarded for it. The Vulcans don't care.

I'm very discouraged. I think this team isn't too far off from a death spiral that's going to make the 04-05 team more watchable in comparison. I don't see any avenues to get better and I think the end of the decline and the attempts to rebuild after that are likely to be really, really ugly.
 
Mediocre Man said:
This might be the post that brings us all together
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One can only hope, trading the 7 for Grant its simply awful and a big time overpay and I don't care what Dame wants (and who really knows). Now moving down to get Char's 13 and 15 (send that for Grant f they wan him - I don't) for the 7 is something I can at least stomach, its alll speculation at any rate
 
This thread.
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Wade Garrett said:
He could.
The Ayton thing probably isn't happening, but moving Nurk to the 4 is not a bad idea.
Maybe getting a big, effective center, is a goal?
I would prefer this to J. Grant.
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They tried to play Nurk with Jokic together in Denver and that didn't work. Nurk was pouting about his mins and touches. If he couldn't play with Jokic who is as effective as a big man as anyone in NBA history, I don't think Nurk would want to play out of position. He wants to be Jokic with all the fancy passes, he doesn't want to play with another Jokic. Plus his feeling will probably be hurt being play out of position.
 
PCmor7 said:
We're reaching for things when we think we're going to get Ayton AND keep Nurk AND play Nurk at the 4. Nurk and Ayton on the court at the same time is a formula for giving up 132 ppg and going 20-62. If people thought we were bad defensively before, I'd hate to read this board after we gave up a zillion uncontested corner 3s every game.

I think we're pretty much screwed. The Clippers trade was a salary dump where we didn't get any real assets back. The value of the Pels trade was in the lottery pick we didn't get. Now our lottery pick drops and loses value. And our star player apparently is pushing us to acquire another average guy because he has good vibes with him and really don't have the assets not to overpay for him. Plus, we don't have the resources to go out and get the guys who are on the market who actually could help us.

There was more than the fair share of misfortune in the rebuild, but Cronin didn't do a good job of mitigating the effects bad luck could have ... and he gets rewarded for it. The Vulcans don't care.

I'm very discouraged. I think this team isn't too far off from a death spiral that's going to make the 04-05 team more watchable in comparison. I don't see any avenues to get better and I think the end of the decline and the attempts to rebuild after that are likely to be really, really ugly.
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I have the same opinion.

It amazes me the fans here that are positive on the direction of this franchise and what Cronin has done. It seems like there are two types of these Blazers fans; #1 the people that hated Neil and or CJ so much they love change for the sake of change regardless of how terrible the change is. The second group is blind Blazer homers that probably celebrate any decision the team would take regardless of how terrible it is.

The future of this franchise looks worse than when John Nash was running it. You remove Lillard from this roster and its by far the worst in the NBA. Even with Dame its likely in the bottom 5. I don't understand how any Blazer fans can be optimistic.
 
Blazinaway said:
LOL ONE yes and 44 no, wh the idjit who voted yes?
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It will be interesting to see what happens. All noise is pointing to us ultimately acquiring Grant. I don't see how the Blazers will avoid overpaying, and I don't see why Detroit would ship him out without a real asset in return. They see Dame putting pressure on the organization and will call our bluff.

If the Blazers overpay for Grant it will be interesting to read the comments of fans here that change their tune and support the organization.

I hope I'm wrong and Cronin becomes the best GM of all time, I just don't believe there is any realistic change he can succeed this year, nor does he have the tools to get this roster to where Dame and he would want it. Neil Olshey made many mistakes, but Cronin has been even worse and now put the franchise in an impossible situation.

Cronin also will have to validate his actions from the last trade deadline, so doing nothing this summer if other GM's hold firm isn't an option for him either, it will basically prove he screwed up the deadline. I suspect its more likely he gives up the lottery pick for Grant or other assets and hopes Grant becomes an allstar, hopes Ant is an allstar, hopes everything on the court comes together perfectly.

What a sad time to be a rational Blazers fan.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
This might have some merit. I don't love the cost though.

In the Rocket's trade, I'd ask for the Bucks '23 1st rounder to come back. On the Detroit trade, I'd try and keep the Bucks '25 1st & send out Keon Johnson instead (also while swapping picks #46 & #59).
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You don't like the cost? #7 for two fairly young starting established players?
 
According to Richman Quick seems to be pretty sure we're trading picks for vets and Grant will be here however it transpires...we have Bledsoe's contract, Ingles expiring, young projects like Johnson, Williams and Watford, hard to say what the details will be but seems to me like there's more veteran talent outside the draft and even in the G league than ever before..lot of guys aren't signed for next season...buckle up because it's going to be a month of what if's going into the draft ...I get the idea Grant is a done deal behind closed doors...hopefully for the Bucks number one pick and a couple players like Bledsoe or Johnson
 
I might rather trade the pick for Ben Simmons who I feel, Brooklyn would trade in a hurry.

Maybe we can trade the rights to Duren for Siakam?
 
AmirIcon said:
I might rather trade the pick for Ben Simmons who I feel, Brooklyn would trade in a hurry.

Maybe we can trade the rights to Duren for Siakam?
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Trade Duran (assuming they drafted him) for Siakam?

Toronto would laugh, giggle, and then hang up the phone.
 
julius said:
Trade Duran (assuming they drafted him) for Siakam?

Toronto would laugh, giggle, and then hang up the phone.
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Not necessarily. They have a glut of power forwards and are desperate for a center. If Duren impresses enough, you could see him rise or his rights become more valuable.
 
AmirIcon said:
Not necessarily. They have a glut of power forwards and are desperate for a center. If Duren impresses enough, you could see him rise or his rights become more valuable.
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They may have a glut, but Duren is totally unproven and they could do a lot better.
 
What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the other sites trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant
 
Blazinaway said:
What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the other sites trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant
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7 for Collins and Grant? That's an easy yes for me.
 
Blazinaway said:
What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the other sites trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant
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So basically, Bledsoe, a contract + #7 for Collins and Grant?

Intriguing, would be hard to say no. But I'm not sure if the other teams would be ok with that.

Detroit mostly.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
It will be interesting to see what happens. All noise is pointing to us ultimately acquiring Grant. I don't see how the Blazers will avoid overpaying, and I don't see why Detroit would ship him out without a real asset in return. They see Dame putting pressure on the organization and will call our bluff.

If the Blazers overpay for Grant it will be interesting to read the comments of fans here that change their tune and support the organization.

I hope I'm wrong and Cronin becomes the best GM of all time, I just don't believe there is any realistic change he can succeed this year, nor does he have the tools to get this roster to where Dame and he would want it. Neil Olshey made many mistakes, but Cronin has been even worse and now put the franchise in an impossible situation.

Cronin also will have to validate his actions from the last trade deadline, so doing nothing this summer if other GM's hold firm isn't an option for him either, it will basically prove he screwed up the deadline. I suspect its more likely he gives up the lottery pick for Grant or other assets and hopes Grant becomes an allstar, hopes Ant is an allstar, hopes everything on the court comes together perfectly.

What a sad time to be a rational Blazers fan.
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WesleyMatthews said:
What a sad time to be a rational Blazers fan.
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How would you know?
You embellish half of what you write, and your trade proposal flamed out at a 55-1 score.
You jump to all conclusions before anything has been allowed to even work itself out, and will no doubt flip-flop your way through the upcoming season as Cronin's vision could very well play out.
"Rational" Blazer fan?
Not you.
 
julius said:
So basically, Bledsoe, a contract + #7 for Collins and Grant?

Intriguing, would be hard to say no. But I'm not sure if the other teams would be ok with that.

Detroit mostly.
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I think for Detroit is pretty easy/likely they do it, I think ATL would have want someone a good bit at 7 to do it and/or want to get rid of Collins
 
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