Brandon Roy: I'll never be 100%. Happy with 6th man role. (1 Viewer)

[KingSpeed]

Just saw this on Twitter:

Brandon Roy on 95.5-FM, said: "I don't think medically, I can ever get back to 100 percent. But I can get to a high level of basketball."

Brandon Roy said: "I would be comfortable with a sixth man role," if that's what it came to when he came back.

 

[julius]

*spit take*

A very expensive 6th man at that.

If he's ok with it, he could have a role here. Maybe he can renegotiate the contract so the team can get other players.

 

[Natebishop3]

Glad to hear it, because I don't think he's better than Wes right now, and I wouldn't bench Wes or Batum for Roy. If Brandon can come in and provide some scoring off the bench, that would be great. Although I would really look to trade him if they can find anyone who would take his contract. Maybe someone like Dallas would take a chance on him to give them some extra punch. We can dream, right?

 

[RipCityInsider]

Roy interview with Canzano

Anyone listen to the interview? Roy with another candid Interview. He doesn't think he will medically be 100% again, however he believes he can play at a high level and so do the doctors; wants to be an All-Star. He would be comfortable in a 6th man role if it made the team the better. Seems optimistic about the future of the Blazers health. Finished the interview saying Oden is the answer to a lot of the questions if he can come back healthy and stay healthy. Crapzano tried to ask some leading questions, but Roy was a professional about it.

 

[RipCityInsider]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

Mods please merge this thread as one seems to have already been created.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

This is pretty tasty lemonade given all the rotten lemons we've been given this season.

 

[RipCityInsider]

Canzano put him the GM chair as well about what Young center he would want. He ended it by saying if Oden comes back and is able to stay healthy, he is the answer to the questions.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If he's able to accept the new realities his health has created then there's a chance this movie doesn't end as a total tragedy. It will be interesting to see if he can transform himself into more of a catch and shoot guy or learns to play off the ball somewhat effectively.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I hope he can do this, but he has also made previous comments about getting Greg more involved, and other things. It will be interesting to see what he says and what he does when it is time to put up or shut up

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

This thread seems better. So he wants to be an all-star and will be a sixth man? This should be fun

 

[RipCityInsider]

If he's able to accept the new realities his health has created then there's a chance this movie doesn't end as a total tragedy. It will be interesting to see if he can transform himself into more of a catch and shoot guy or learns to play off the ball somewhat effectively.

After the Miller vs Roy battle at the beginning of Miller's Blazer tenure, fans seem to think Roy would not be accepting to a new "role" on the team. Based from his latest interview, he wants to be able to contribute and help the team the best way he can. If it is the best decision for the team with him as the 6th man, he would be comfortable with it. However, if he feels like he can play at a high level and so does coach, he will start if it is best for the team.

 

[Natebishop3]

When I first read the thread title, I thought it meant that he wouldn't be 100% happy with a 6th man role...

 

[KingSpeed]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

Chris Gatling was an All Star even though he was coming off the bench for the Mavericks.

 

[RipCityInsider]

I hope he can do this, but he has also made previous comments about getting Greg more involved, and other things. It will be interesting to see what he says and what he does when it is time to put up or shut up

If I remember correctly, Roy talked about chemistry issues with Oden because as a team, they were not used to incorporating him in the offense yet. Roy has always been supportive of Greg and has shown in plenty of interviews. It's probably best if you stay out of this conversation because we all know your MO when it comes to Roy. Your material is becoming tiresome, don't get you get bored with it?

 

[RipCityInsider]

Roy also talked about the advice he has been receiving from vets across the league. He realizes there are adjustment periods throughout one's career, where after 5 years can be much different than your previous years. Said he can look at it as if it is another Rookie year for his next stage of his career.

 

[PapaG]

*spit take*

A very expensive 6th man at that.

If he's ok with it, he could have a role here. Maybe he can renegotiate the contract so the team can get other players.

Seeing as how that is literally impossible under the CBA that governs his contract, I doubt it! But hell, as long as we can build up an impossible strawman in order to criticize Roy in the future for doing something he can't do, I say go for it. WEEEEEEEE!

 

[mgb]

When I first read the thread title, I thought it meant that he wouldn't be 100% happy with a 6th man role...

Me too.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Great news . . . jsut what I many of us wanted to hear.

Some may question his intentions, but if anything Roy has generally been too honest with the media. I believe him.

 

[julius]

Seeing as how that is literally impossible under the CBA that governs his contract, I doubt it! But hell, as long as we can build up an impossible strawman in order to criticize Roy in the future for doing something he can't do, I say go for it. WEEEEEEEE!

I wasn't aware it was impossible, so I wasn't trying to create a strawman. But thanks for being an ass

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

Hopefully Roy gets it. Who cares whether he starts or comes off the bench when he gets back. If he is good enough to contribute, he will get his minutes. If he can play better than Wes (even being less than 100%), he will find his way back to the starting rotation.

The fact that he is willing to be the 6th man to start is the key. I wish it was he is willing to come off the bench and forget even designating him the 6th man . . . but I'll take Roy accepting 6th man, for now.

 

[RipCityInsider]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

Hopefully Roy gets it. Who cares whether he starts or comes off the bench when he gets back. If he is good enough to contribute, he will get his minutes. If he can play better than Wes (even being less than 100%), he will find his way back to the starting rotation.

The fact that he is willing to be the 6th man to start is the key. I wish it was he is willing to come off the bench and forget even designating him the 6th man . . . but I'll take Roy accepting 6th man, for now.

In fairness to his response, the question was on the lines of, "Would you accept a 6th man's role?".

 

[julius]

53. Can existing contracts be renegotiated?

A contract for four or more seasons can be renegotiated after the third anniversary of its signing, extension, or renegotiation that increased any season's salary by more than 8%. Contracts for fewer than four seasons cannot be renegotiated. A contract cannot be renegotiated between March 1 and June 30 of any year. Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap. Raises in subsequent years are limited to 10.5% of the salary in the first renegotiated season. The renegotiation may not contain a signing bonus. Contracts cannot be renegotiated downward (players can't take a "pay cut" in order to create salary cap room for the team) or to contain fewer seasons.

Again, a team over the salary cap cannot renegotiate a contract. An interesting case of this was Shawn Kemp with the Sonics. Kemp, who was unhappy with his contract and wanted to renegotiate, could not get a larger contract from the Sonics because they were over the cap. Kemp forced a trade to Cleveland, who was far enough under the cap at the time to give him the large contract he wanted. Kemp's contract was renegotiated soon after the trade.

However

54. In what other ways can an existing contract be modified?

Other than extensions (see question number 52) and renegotiations (see question number 53), a team and player can mutually modify an existing contract as follows:

* To alter the amount of compensation protection -- i.e., the guarantee (see question number 94). This is commonly done as part of a buyout (see question number 62).
* To eliminate an option or ETO (see question number 51). Note that eliminating an option does NOT constitute illegally shortening a contract, since an option year isn't considered part of the original term of a contract until it is invoked.
* To reduce the amount of a trade bonus (see question number 86), but only to the extent necessary to make a trade legal.
* To waive set-off (see question number 57), which is commonly done in conjunction with a buyout (see question number 62).
* To alter the pay schedule.
* To alter the window of time during which an option may be invoked (rare).
* To alter the list of outside activities in which the player is allowed to participate (rare).
* To change the section of the standard contract that permits the team to suspend the player if the player does not maintain sufficient physical condition.

So it IS possible, just not in the sense of taking away from the cap. They could pay him over a longer period, but I believe it would count the same against the salary cap.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Re: Roy interview with Canzano

In fairness to his response, the question was on the lines of, "Would you accept a 6th man's role?".

Good point. Given the tone of the interview, if asked if he would be willing to come off the bench, he probably would have said yes.

I'm excited about Roy returning. A scorer coming off the bench and gving double digit scoring regularly would be just what that second unit needs.

It's Roy's defense that is a huge concern. But in Nate's system, if you don't play defense (and you aren't the team's star) . . . you are likely to get a lot less minutes than what you think you deserve. I could see this being an issue with Roy.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If I remember correctly, Roy talked about chemistry issues with Oden because as a team, they were not used to incorporating him in the offense yet. Roy has always been supportive of Greg and has shown in plenty of interviews. It's probably best if you stay out of this conversation because we all know your MO when it comes to Roy. Your material is becoming tiresome, don't get you get bored with it?

I guess I will just go ahead and be in whatever conversation I want to be in? All I am saying is that Roy has said one thing and changed his mind shortly thereafter before. I hope for his, the teams, and the fans sake he accepts the role that he can play.

 

[mgb]

My first thouht was that he would never think it's the best decision for the team with him as the 6th man.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

However


So it IS possible, just not in the sense of taking away from the cap. They could pay him over a longer period, but I believe it would count the same against the salary cap.

I wonder if we could front load it more like Wes' contract is?

So it decreases over time instead of increases but in the end he gets the same amount of money.

 

[PapaG]

However


So it IS possible, just not in the sense of taking away from the cap. They could pay him over a longer period, but I believe it would count the same against the salary cap.

You posted that Roy should renegotiate his contract in order to bring in another player that could help the team. I assumed that you meant it in relation to Roy's current cap hit, and how that inhibits roster flexibility. If not, what is the point of Roy renegotiating, except to Paul Allen's yearly payments? I mean, if Roy wants to do that, fine, but it doesn't at all impact the current CBA, and how to maneuver for more cap space.

 

[PapaG]

I wonder if we could front load it more like Wes' contract is?

So it decreases over time instead of increases but in the end he gets the same amount of money.

It doesn't matter, because the cap implications are the same. That's explicitly spelled out in the CBA. Now, if something changes, and a buy-out is possible under a new CBA that also lowers cap space, then the team may want to buy him out.

The problem with julius' thought is that Roy's contract is still under the authority of the old CBA, so he can't renegotiate to a lower cap hit even if he wants to do it.

It's a strawman that really means nothing in reality.

 

[illmatic99]

Link to interview: http://www.955thegame.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=5136168

Fast forward to the 3 min mark for it to start.

 

[PapaG]

I wasn't aware it was impossible, so I wasn't trying to create a strawman. But thanks for being an ass

Sorry, but I've posted it at least 4 times previously in other threads where the same idea was raised by posters.

Didn't mean to be an ass; just am one at times.