Brian Berger: Interesting Inside Info about KP

[Minstrel]

Barrett is too pro Blazers to take anything he says seriously

If it were just an opinion, that might be true. Are you saying he made up that Paul Allen quote to Pritchard ("This is your draft")?

 

[RoyToy]

I think I'll side with Barrett getting his info from Paul Allen himself than Steve Patterson coming out from under a rock after KP was fired,

 

[OddEnormous]

If it were just an opinion, that might be true. Are you saying he made up that Paul Allen quote to Pritchard ("This is your draft")?

Exactly.

 

[Idog1976]

here's some of the info..
Here are some bullet points:

-KP not what he was perceived to be publicly - KP seemed like a good guy when I talked to him

-KP was basically incompotent. Others made him look good. - I have heard this as well from someone inside the Blazers organization

-He and Tom Penn were not as close as perceived - Never heard this, but I think both guys are "lookout for #1 guys"

-Penn made attempts to make KP look incompotent in front of other GM’s and agents - Never heard this either. Both had the same agent, so I would doubt it

-KP was not as beloved within the organization as the public thought he was - I know of 3 people personally that work for the Blazers that did not like KP

-many believe that Penn actually wanted KP’s job - Nope

-There was a divide among players’ feelings about KP - This is very true according to a friend of mine

-He wanted Morrison over Roy. That angered Roy. - Paul Allen wanted A_am.

-Patterson actually drafted (traded for) Roy and LMA. KP took credit. - As I said before, I believe this to be 100% true

-Jason Fillipi (international scout) was responsible for finding Batum not KP - Yes, but KP has said this as well

-KP was surrounded by guys to hide his deficiencies. - I think most great leaders are surrounded by these people

-KP was the lowest paid GM in the league and he wasn’t happy about it. - This is true


I know most don't give a rats ass what I think, but I really do know people that know these things.

I believe you MM thanks for the straight dope.

As a side note in which i am in NO way including Mediocore Man, a couple of folks on this forum are approaching ignore status.

 

[OddEnormous]

a couple of folks on this forum are approaching ignore status.

LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BGrantFan]

LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Um, yeah, thanks for the warning!

 

[LittleAlex]

Steve Patterson was GM of this team for 1 year. That year was 2006-2007, and that happened to be the year that we landed Brandon and Aldridge.

It would be like Saying the Larry Miller is great at drafting because he was President when KP was GM.

With Patterson as GM, the Blazers drafted well.

Well then, even worse. He had absolutely zero experiance so we have nothing to base our judgements on.

However, after Patterson is kicked to the curb Portland continues to draft in almost the same manner as the one KP supposedly ran (2006) for years afterwards.

The only thing we can look at is what facts we have.
The only facts we have is how the Blazers drafted pre-KP as compared to post-KP.
There is a significant difference between the two.
A difference that is consistent during KP's entire tenure.

That's all I have to go on. So outside of video evidence showing Patterson making all the right calls I am going to have to assume the dude is completely full of shit and try to salvage a deservedly poor reputation. All of the evidence points to Patterson being completely irrelevant with regards to Portland's drafting actions.

Note this says nothing about it being all because of KP.
It may very well be that Born and Bauchannon deserve as much or more praise as KP does.

 

[OddEnormous]

Well then, even worse. He had absolutely zero experiance so we have nothing to base our judgements on.

However, after Patterson is kicked to the curb Portland continues to draft in almost the same manner as the one KP supposedly ran (2006) for years afterwards.

The only thing we can look at is what facts we have.
The only facts we have is how the Blazers drafted pre-KP as compared to post-KP.
There is a significant difference between the two.
A difference that is consistent during KP's entire tenure.

That's all I have to go on. So outside of video evidence showing Patterson making all the right calls I am going to have to assume the dude is completely full of shit and try to salvage a deservedly poor reputation. All of the evidence points to Patterson being completely irrelevant with regards to Portland's drafting actions.

Note this says nothing about it being all because of KP.
It may very well be that Born and Bauchannon deserve as much or more praise as KP does.

WREPPED!

 

[maxiep]

Here's the transcript: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/6/28/1541435/transcript-sports-business-radios#storyjump

 

[OddEnormous]

Here's the transcript: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/6/28/1541435/transcript-sports-business-radios#storyjump

Reading the comments below the transcript, it's nice to see that the the KP character assassination media tour is finally working.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Reading the comments below the transcript, it's nice to see that the the KP character assassination media tour is finally working.

Almost as unjust as the Paul Allen character assassination was on draft night and the next day.

 

[OddEnormous]

Almost as unjust as the Paul Allen character assassination was on draft night and the next day.

Paul Allen made his own bed. All he has to do is tell us why he fired his GM.

This Pritchard stuff is the work of cowards.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Paul Allen made his own bed. All he has to do is tell us why he fired his GM.

This Pritchard stuff is the work of cowards.

Why? Why does he have to tell us? Why does KP get the benefit of the doubt here, and not PA? Maybe Paul's taking the high road as well by not saying anything? And really, how would it benefit Paul to say anything? Unless he cam out and blamed it all on himself, no one woul dbelieve him anyway?

 

[OddEnormous]

Why? Why does he have to tell us?

He doesn't have to obviously. But not doing so has led to an angry shit storm for both sides. I'm assuming they aren't telling us the reason because the reason he was let go probably isn't a very good one.

KP gets the benefit of the doubt because I saw the state of this franchise before and after he got here. I'm not sure what else there is to go on.

 

[Pinwheel1]

MB is a company guy.

For example: Multiple media outlets said Claver's workout was very disappointing. MB raved about the workout.

Just out of curiousity, who were the multiple media outlets?

 

[oldmangrouch]

Why? Why does he have to tell us? Why does KP get the benefit of the doubt here, and not PA? Maybe Paul's taking the high road as well by not saying anything? And really, how would it benefit Paul to say anything? Unless he cam out and blamed it all on himself, no one woul dbelieve him anyway?

Actually, that isn't true.

This could have been framed to the public as philosophical differences. He was forced into a painful choice between Nate or KP. Or, KP is dedicated to building with youth, and because of his (PA's) health, he has decided to go for it now. "Ain't no good guy, ain't no bad guy, there's just you and me and we just disagree."

Anybody who follows the NBA has seen this sort of thing. People would believe and understand it, and only a few fanatics would be upset about it.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Actually, that isn't true.

This could have been framed to the public as philosophical differences. He was forced into a painful choice between Nate or KP. Or, KP is dedicated to building with youth, and because of his (PA's) health, he has decided to go for it now. "Ain't no good guy, ain't no bad guy, there's just you and me and we just disagree."

Anybody who follows the NBA has seen this sort of thing. People would believe and understand it, and only a few fanatics would be upset about it.

It could have if this hadn't been in the media for months. This was drawn out, and because somoene leaked info, it was known that the Blazers were going to fire KP right after the draft. At that point, PA would have looked like a fool had he said philosophical differences.

 

[OddEnormous]

This was drawn out

By Paul Allen

 

[Mediocre Man]

By Paul Allen

Yes.

 

[KingSpeed]

When I first met KP on the road in 2008, I thanked him for turning the team around. He immediately introduced me to Tom Penn and Larry Miller and gave them all the credit.

 

[OddEnormous]

Yes.

Jesus dude.