Funny Burn, Berkeley Burn.

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I haven't watched many of his videos, but calling him the new "Gay Hitler" (not saying that you did...) is asinine and retarded beyond all belief.

I don't think he's anything for them to freak out over and I find some of the things he says quite insightful. I just meant that there isn't anything he could just say that can make these riots acceptable. Anyone who thinks otherwise should just start whatever race/culture war they want already.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I don't think he's anything for them to freak out over and I find some of the things he says quite insightful. I just meant that there isn't anything he could just say that can make these riots acceptable. Anyone who thinks otherwise should just start whatever race/culture war they want already.

I agree.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's Saudi owned

A Saudi prince owns 5%. 95% of twitter is not Saudi owned.

 

[blue32]

A Saudi prince owns 5%. 95% of twitter is not Saudi owned.

OK. OK. He has more ownership than the CEO, and he's the 2nd most share holder, after EV Williams.

The prince is already a big media player, owning broadcasting organizations and stakes in Disney, 21st Century Fox and News Corp.

http://www.recode.net/2016/8/11/12417064/twitter-stock-ownership-takeover-acquisition-challenges

The gist is, he has major influence on what goes on in Twitter land.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

OK. OK. He has more ownership than the CEO, and he's the 2nd most share holder, after EV Williams.

The prince is already a big media player, owning broadcasting organizations and stakes in Disney, 21st Century Fox and News Corp.

http://www.recode.net/2016/8/11/12417064/twitter-stock-ownership-takeover-acquisition-challenges

The gist is, he has major influence on what goes on in Twitter land.

I would imagine that the majority of corporations have people who own a larger stake than the CEO does.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I wonder where you stand on these Republicans who are trying to institute law that doesn't allow people to peaceably assemble.

You've read the article to which you linked, right? Per the article, "the measure would allow felony prosecution of people involved in protests that block transportation and commerce, cause property damage, threaten jobs and put public safety at risk." From what I see, that falls in line with the existing precedent regarding regulation of freedom of assembly.

Per the library of congress, "The First Amendment does not provide the right to conduct an assembly at which there is a clear and present danger of riot, disorder, or interference with traffic on public streets, or other immediate threat to public safety or order.[13] Statutes that prohibit people from assembling and using force or violence to accomplish unlawful purposes are permissible under the First Amendment.[14]"

So, are you saying that the congressperson's characterization of the measure is inaccurate?

 

[blue32]

I would imagine that the majority of corporations have people who own a larger stake than the CEO does.

I could agree w/that. But, there has been reports out there that the Saudi prince has been influencing decisions on bans of peoples accounts. I wouldn't put it past them.
The double standard that Twitter is displaying w/this stuff is rather dubious.

 

[dviss1]

You've read the article to which you linked, right? Per the article, "the measure would allow felony prosecution of people involved in protests that block transportation and commerce, cause property damage, threaten jobs and put public safety at risk." From what I see, that falls in line with the existing precedent regarding regulation of freedom of assembly.

Per the library of congress, "The First Amendment does not provide the right to conduct an assembly at which there is a clear and present danger of riot, disorder, or interference with traffic on public streets, or other immediate threat to public safety or order.[13] Statutes that prohibit people from assembling and using force or violence to accomplish unlawful purposes are permissible under the First Amendment.[14]"

So, are you saying that the congressperson's characterization of the measure is inaccurate?

No. What I think is BULLSHIT is people always want to regulate my 1st Amendment right whilst simultaneously saying their 2nd Amendment right can't be touched. I'm sick of the hypocrisy.

 

[dviss1]

I could agree w/that. But, there has been reports out there that the Saudi prince has been influencing decisions on bans of peoples accounts. I wouldn't put it past them.
The double standard that Twitter is displaying w/this stuff is rather dubious.

A Saudi prince owns part of FOX "news" and has for years. You watch?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

No. What I think is BULLSHIT is people always want to regulate my 1st Amendment right whilst simultaneously saying their 2nd Amendment right can't be touched. I'm sick of the hypocrisy.

Thing is, what does the 1st say about assembly? It says "peaceably" to assemble. The regulations regarding assembly seek to ensure "peaceable" assembly, not abridge it.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Well, at least Fox is honoring his Freedom Of Speech, even if Berkeley won't.



I really wanted to see the Indian headdress, lol.

 

[blue32]

A Saudi prince owns part of FOX "news" and has for years. You watch?

I watch a variety of them. But I think it's regulated quite different than Twitter.

 

[dviss1]

Thing is, what does the 1st say about assembly? It says "peaceably" to assemble. The regulations regarding assembly seek to ensure "peaceable" assembly, not abridge it.

Can you own an Apache helicopter? Why can't you own an Apache helicopter?

 

[Denny Crane]

Wait a minute, I thought Trump was the law and order candidate? How come riots have increased under his watch?

SAD!

barfo

#triggered

 

[Jade Falcon]

Can you own an Apache helicopter? Why can't you own an Apache helicopter?

An AR-15 is not an Apache Helicopter, nor is it a WMD, or any other nonsense you Liberals like to compare them to.

But nice try.

And yes, you can own decommissioned tanks and other military vehicles in this country, as long as you have the money. There are auctions and depots for them all across the country.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Can you own an Apache helicopter? Why can't you own an Apache helicopter?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm not trying to argue against regulation of armaments. I'm simply arguing in favor of regulation of disruptive protest.

 

[Zachnsalem]

I really wanted to see the Indian headdress, lol.

. Another failure of your post is saying that Berkeley didn't allow Milo to speak. No, Milo decided not to because people were protesting. The university didn't cancel his speech (he shouldn't even have gotten speech time like this). He did.

Administrators decided to cancel the Wednesday event about two hours before the Breitbart editor's speech. UC Berkeley said it removed him from campus "amid the violence and destruction of property and out of concern for public safety."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/

"Amid violence, destruction of property and out of concern for public safety, the University of California Police Department determined that it was necessary to remove Milo Yiannopoulos from the campus and to cancel tonight’s scheduled 8 p.m. performance,"

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nati...Stirs-Debate-Over-Free-Speech--412494673.html​

 

[WarriorFan]

Had never heard of Milo before and wanted to see what all the fuss was about so I downloaded his most recent podcast which was him speaking and Univ of Colorado. I only made it about 30 minutes because he was just talk talking about, and I shit you not, why there are more ugly people on the left.

He seemed like a fucking idiot. Why are people taking him this seriously? Sure, he's an asshole, but I didn't hear any valid points he was making or any reason not to just completely dismiss him (granted, I gave up after 30 minutes of that nonsense).

 

[Tweak]

He'll (Milo) be at the White House presser today.
Shit just got fabulous!
:MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61:

 

[blue32]

Had never heard of Milo before and wanted to see what all the fuss was about so I downloaded his most recent podcast which was him speaking and Univ of Colorado. I only made it about 30 minutes because he was just talk talking about, and I shit you not, why there are more ugly people on the left.

He seemed like a fucking idiot. Why are people taking him this seriously? Sure, he's an asshole, but I didn't hear any valid points he was making or any reason not to just completely dismiss him (granted, I gave up after 30 minutes of that nonsense).

watch his interview on tucker carlson last night. first and foremost his speeches at colleges are a performance, satire, provocateur, mixed in with some political content.

 

[Tweak]

In his own words he's declared war on political correctness.

 

[Denny Crane]

The regulations on speech @dviss1 is talking about would be similar 2nd amendment regulations. Like shooting someone, or firing a gun in many places.

 

[santeesioux]

He made himself famous for getting kicked off of twitter for being racist to Leslie Jones. His racist followers lemminged up and followed suit. Fuck Milo and everyone supporting him. It's funny how people will follow a foreigner saying shit that they want to hear instead of listening to an American who has an objective viewpoint.

Keep in mind I wasn't paying attention to that stuff, but I heard he didn't sic his followers on her, and that she was giving it right back to the trolls that went after her.

 

[MarAzul]

Can you own an Apache helicopter? Why can't you own an Apache helicopter?

I will take a crack at answering this very good question.

Madison codified with the second amendment a very old right, that was first codified in the The law of Nations. That is the right people have to self defense including the right to the use of weapons in their defense.

It seem quite logical don't you think that we all have this right? Well then it also follows that weapons designed for use in offensive attack are not covered in this right. Attack is reserved to the sovereign, not individuals.

Apache "Attack" Helicopter are not covered in the original intent of the 2nd amendment.

 

[dviss1]

Administrators decided to cancel the Wednesday event about two hours before the Breitbart editor's speech. UC Berkeley said it removed him from campus "amid the violence and destruction of property and out of concern for public safety."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/

"Amid violence, destruction of property and out of concern for public safety, the University of California Police Department determined that it was necessary to remove Milo Yiannopoulos from the campus and to cancel tonight’s scheduled 8 p.m. performance,"

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nati...Stirs-Debate-Over-Free-Speech--412494673.html​

I stand corrected. Berkley cancelled the racist's speech. They shouldn't have had him there in the first place.

 

[dviss1]

The regulations on speech @dviss1 is talking about would be similar 2nd amendment regulations. Like shooting someone, or firing a gun in many places.

Or background checks on private sales.

Or firearm insurance.

 

[dviss1]

Keep in mind I wasn't paying attention to that stuff, but I heard he didn't sic his followers on her, and that she was giving it right back to the trolls that went after her.

Yup let's believe right wing media...

 

[dviss1]

He'll (Milo) be at the White House presser today.
Shit just got fabulous!
:MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61::MARIS61:

The president consorting with racists... sigh... This is gonna be a long 4 years...

 

[santeesioux]

Yup let's believe right wing media...

He looks pretty left wing to me with his 1700s wig.

 

[Sinobas]

How might this play out, if this form of rioting continues and spreads? The local police didn't do anything about it. Perhaps the powers that be are afraid of inciting more riots, or are afraid that the rioters will turn against them.

A couple days ago they showed up at the house of liberal senator Feinstien, because she apparantly was not being tough enough on Trump (shades of the French Revolution anyone?)

So if the police don't handle this, will Trump create a national police force for this type of thing?