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Natebishop3 said:
Something that concerned me about Scoot since last summer was the little anecdote that was shared about how he reached out to Dame while he was in the G League and asked how Dame deals with missing shots or something along those lines.

To me..... that sounds like a confidence issue. That's not really the kind of mindset you want from your franchise point guard. I'm still really hoping he can turn it around but that story just didn't sit right with me.
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Its funny the announcers said how much his skillset compares to westbrook. Yeah he can't shoot.
 
Chauncey of all people should realize that he doesn’t have it. I wonder what kind of signals he’s giving management.
 
I think he's going to be a bust. Sorry. It's why I've been arguing against trading Simons. Simons can be your PG without depressing you almost every game.
 
beast blazer said:
I think he's going to be a bust. Sorry. It's why I've been arguing against trading Simons. Simons can be your PG without depressing you almost every game.
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Sounds like you want to win another 3-4 games this season. I have been thoroughly admonished for such a statement.
 
So while we're piling on, what's the best comparison for Scoot:
Emmanuel Mudiay (taken 7th)
Kris Dunn (taken 5th)
Markelle Fultz (taken 1st)
Killian Hayes (taken 7th)
Jalen Suggs (taken 5th)?

Suggs is the most hopeful, but I'm going with Hayes. Dunn and Suggs are at least ferocious defenders.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So while we're piling on, what's the best comparison for Scoot:
Emmanuel Mudiay (taken 7th)
Kris Dunn (taken 5th)
Markelle Fultz (taken 1st)
Killian Hayes (taken 7th)
Jalen Suggs (taken 5th)?

Suggs is the most hopeful, but I'm going with Hayes. Dunn and Suggs are at least ferocious defenders.
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I think it's still Westbrook. Yes that might be a couple years from now but that seems to be it.
 
My point in saying Westbrook is that we have to remember Russ played two years in college and was picked 4th after Rose, Beasley and OJ Mayo.
 
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kjironman1 said:
I think it's still Westbrook. Yes that might be a couple years from now but that seems to be it.
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Wow, hope springs a turtle.

Or do you mean Scoot now reminds you of what Westbrook will be in a couple of years, because then I kind of agree.
 
Here's my main take on Scoot: he's lost confidence in his handle because NBA players can pick him with ease. That's why he never penetrates. His handle was highschool great, but it's NBA bad.

In general, he looks like he has no self-belief. Probably because assholes keep running him down on the internet.
 
kjironman1 said:
How about we revisit this conversation in a couple years. At this point of Westbrooks career he was practicing at UCLA.
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I honestly can't understand anyone who thinks that Scoot has anything close to Westbrook's athleticism.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I honestly can't understand anyone who thinks that Scoot has anything close to Westbrook's athleticism.
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I see the athleticism I’m just not sure the killer mentality? You have to admit Russ was not afraid of anything.
 
I've asked this before, and I'll ask it again: what exactly is Scoot good at?

We were told his shot needed work. That's putting it mildly.
We were told he was super athletic. He just isn't.
We were told he's a great passer. Does anyone see it? As far as I can tell he's mediocre at best and "not really a point guard" at worst.
He can't finish at the rim.
And as for his defense....

So...? He's strong, I guess, but that's only useful if you're good at finishing. He's not exactly drawing tons of FT attempts, is he?
 
kjironman1 said:
I see the athleticism I’m just not sure the killer mentality? You have to admit Russ was not afraid of anything.
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Russ was on a whole nother level athletically than Scoot. Even the Morant, Rose, Wall were all clearly above Scoot athletically. Scoot is certainly more athletic than average for an NBA PG but he is not in that top tier nor close to a player like Russ.
 
Agree with the comments that I was much more hopeful of Telfair in his second season than I am with Scoot now. Telfair was traded after his second year for the pick that became Roy. I doubt Scoot will have that value after this season.

At this point I think we can mark down in pencil that Scoot was a fail at #3, and is likely a bust. Sure there are some outliner cases where a player turns it around, but at this point the odds are against that happening. I'm not sure Scoot has more potential than Camara or Rupert. Yes Scoot still has some value and upside just like those other two do as well, but its clearly a fail from what we were hoping for at #3.
 
AldoTrapani said:
I can’t believe this MFer Scoot had the nerve to skip Summer League
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Morang reported that Scoot tried to player summer league but the Blazers blocked him as he wasn't 100% health wise.

Plenty of things to criticize Scoot for, but this isn't one of them.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Agree with the comments that I was much more hopeful of Telfair in his second season than I am with Scoot now. Telfair was traded after his second year for the pick that became Roy. I doubt Scoot will have that value after this season.

At this point I think we can mark down in pencil that Scoot was a fail at #3, and is likely a bust. Sure there are some outliner cases where a player turns it around, but at this point the odds are against that happening. I'm not sure Scoot has more potential than Camara or Rupert. Yes Scoot still has some value and upside just like those other two do as well, but its clearly a fail from what we were hoping for at #3.
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That's why I say you can't count on any draft pick. You need to get 4, 5, or 6 high picks in a row for a high chance at a successful rebuild barring extreme luck.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I've asked this before, and I'll ask it again: what exactly is Scoot good at?

We were told his shot needed work. That's putting it mildly.
We were told he was super athletic. He just isn't.
We were told he's a great passer. Does anyone see it? As far as I can tell he's mediocre at best and "not really a point guard" at worst.
He can't finish at the rim.
And as for his defense....

So...? He's strong, I guess, but that's only useful if you're good at finishing. He's not exactly drawing tons of FT attempts, is he?
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I think he has + ability as a passer. But everything else sucks egregiously. Which is the key problem, it's not as though he's just young and rough around the edges, he truly sucks.

We've all heard the song before "He's only 19, he's only 20, he's only 21, he's only 22...."
 
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