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What does it mean exactly when an individual with media credentials, and practice facility, media row, and locker room access, reports on the Blazers? More importantly, what is expected when a person smacks "By" and their name on something?
In looking for a place to share opinions and my Blazer fan-dom with other Blazer fans, I spent the pre-season and the first 6 games or so reading and commenting on Blazer's Edge. What became increasingly apparent is that Ben Golliver wants it both ways: to be a respected journalist, and a content hack.
Not a week goes by that he isn't posting the meat of other sport journalists' work, and slapping a different title on it with "By Ben Golliver."
His hack job of Chris Haynes' article on Earl Waton was the last straw for me, and I responded below:
By Ben Golliver
Since Ben didn’t add anything to the story, and takes great liberty adding “By Ben Golliver” to someone else’s work, I thought it appropriate to add something that was actually “By Ben Golliver” in regards to Earl Watson:
“I’m not gonna acknowledge he’s on the team. I don’t even want to watch that guy play. I think Earl Watson might even be Ronnie Price. I don’t know how much he’s gonna play which is good.” – By Ben Golliver
Check out Ben’s Podcast with Kevin Pelton. If you haven’t heard it, it’s definitely worth it. ; )
To no surprise my post was deleted within the hour. The truth hurts even when it's devoid of the taboo and often mis-defined "ad homonym." If you're going to bad mouth a guy and say (in his podcast with Kevin Pelton) that "I don't even want to acknowledge he's even on the team", then don't. And don't be a hypocrite.
Sure, he lets people know he didn't write it, but then he goes on to cut out the meat of the article like any of us would do on this forum, so you don't need to go to the actual story to get the gist. So, why if it's ok for me, would it not be for Benjamin? Because I'm no journalist. I don't do post game write-ups for money, and push traffic to a web site to that end, and I sure as heck don't have locker room access, or any access for that matter, to provide me a wealth of information to write about.
I find it hypocritical in both respects, that he hocks other people's work off as his own, and that he bad mouths the very players he benefits from writing about.
Also not surprising - even when he is supposedly writing something original, like talking about the Blazers using ipads during time outs in one of his game recaps, it's not:
“Joe Freeman@BlazerFreeman
Nothing worse than researching story for weeks, waiting for photos/right time to write about it only to have someone drop it in game recap.”
Golliver was no less (with an audible goofy laugh) slighting Joel Freeland after the pre-season, as he continues to do so with Nolan Smith. How this guy even has access of any kind is a mystery. A Bill Simmons wannabe with no credibility, unless an audience equals credibility. If the Blazer players actually read or heard what he says about them, none of them would speak to him.
And Dave... bless his heart. His prose is quite articulate, despite the over-use of words like: torrid, yeoman, and carom. (They're called bricks Dave, not caroms.) But I've mentioned this before in another thread, that he's not a basketball guy, he's just a fan. And that's great. And I like Dave as a person. But he writes about basketball with no legit basketball background or with any knowledge of playing on a competitive team, which isn't intended as a slight, but rather an explanation for why he's so off base and so heavily reliant on what other actual stat/basketball minds say about the Blazers.
Paraphrasing here, "One of the reason I project Portland to be a 38-42 win team is because they had issues with turnovers in pre-season that indicates that will continue, and that they led the league in rebounding during the same time doesn't mean anything." - Dave
The bottom line is you can't call those guys out on anything or they delete your post, which is the sign of an extremely ignorant and insecure environment that I want no part of.
About that rebounding... Well, of course, I'm dying to hop on Mals post about rebounding, and it's too bad I didn't know about this forum sooner or I would have been right there with him.
Call it a rap. - rook
In looking for a place to share opinions and my Blazer fan-dom with other Blazer fans, I spent the pre-season and the first 6 games or so reading and commenting on Blazer's Edge. What became increasingly apparent is that Ben Golliver wants it both ways: to be a respected journalist, and a content hack.
Not a week goes by that he isn't posting the meat of other sport journalists' work, and slapping a different title on it with "By Ben Golliver."
His hack job of Chris Haynes' article on Earl Waton was the last straw for me, and I responded below:
By Ben Golliver
Since Ben didn’t add anything to the story, and takes great liberty adding “By Ben Golliver” to someone else’s work, I thought it appropriate to add something that was actually “By Ben Golliver” in regards to Earl Watson:
“I’m not gonna acknowledge he’s on the team. I don’t even want to watch that guy play. I think Earl Watson might even be Ronnie Price. I don’t know how much he’s gonna play which is good.” – By Ben Golliver
Check out Ben’s Podcast with Kevin Pelton. If you haven’t heard it, it’s definitely worth it. ; )
To no surprise my post was deleted within the hour. The truth hurts even when it's devoid of the taboo and often mis-defined "ad homonym." If you're going to bad mouth a guy and say (in his podcast with Kevin Pelton) that "I don't even want to acknowledge he's even on the team", then don't. And don't be a hypocrite.
Sure, he lets people know he didn't write it, but then he goes on to cut out the meat of the article like any of us would do on this forum, so you don't need to go to the actual story to get the gist. So, why if it's ok for me, would it not be for Benjamin? Because I'm no journalist. I don't do post game write-ups for money, and push traffic to a web site to that end, and I sure as heck don't have locker room access, or any access for that matter, to provide me a wealth of information to write about.
I find it hypocritical in both respects, that he hocks other people's work off as his own, and that he bad mouths the very players he benefits from writing about.
Also not surprising - even when he is supposedly writing something original, like talking about the Blazers using ipads during time outs in one of his game recaps, it's not:
“Joe Freeman@BlazerFreeman
Nothing worse than researching story for weeks, waiting for photos/right time to write about it only to have someone drop it in game recap.”
Golliver was no less (with an audible goofy laugh) slighting Joel Freeland after the pre-season, as he continues to do so with Nolan Smith. How this guy even has access of any kind is a mystery. A Bill Simmons wannabe with no credibility, unless an audience equals credibility. If the Blazer players actually read or heard what he says about them, none of them would speak to him.
And Dave... bless his heart. His prose is quite articulate, despite the over-use of words like: torrid, yeoman, and carom. (They're called bricks Dave, not caroms.) But I've mentioned this before in another thread, that he's not a basketball guy, he's just a fan. And that's great. And I like Dave as a person. But he writes about basketball with no legit basketball background or with any knowledge of playing on a competitive team, which isn't intended as a slight, but rather an explanation for why he's so off base and so heavily reliant on what other actual stat/basketball minds say about the Blazers.
Paraphrasing here, "One of the reason I project Portland to be a 38-42 win team is because they had issues with turnovers in pre-season that indicates that will continue, and that they led the league in rebounding during the same time doesn't mean anything." - Dave
The bottom line is you can't call those guys out on anything or they delete your post, which is the sign of an extremely ignorant and insecure environment that I want no part of.
About that rebounding... Well, of course, I'm dying to hop on Mals post about rebounding, and it's too bad I didn't know about this forum sooner or I would have been right there with him.
Call it a rap. - rook
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