Call it now--who won the Simmons/Harden trade?

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in

Who won the Simmons/Harden trade?

  • Morey--he was proven right for his refusal to settle

    Votes: 10 14.1%

  • Marks--Nets benefitted greatly from Morey's obsession with all-stars

    Votes: 34 47.9%

  • Both--Blockbuster team made both teams better; they'll probably meet in the playoffs

    Votes: 12 16.9%

  • Neither--Simmons/Harden lack the mentality necessary to elevate a team the way their talent should

    Votes: 15 21.1%
  • Total voters
    71
Id like to put a vote out for us.
The Blazers.
We won the trade by not dealing with the two biggest divas the nba has.
 
I have to go with the Nets on this one. Though I couldn't vote in the poll because the option saying Morey was obsessed with all-stars didn't make sense because he traded one all-star for another.
 
Tince said:
I have to go with the Nets on this one. Though I couldn't vote in the poll because the option saying Morey was obsessed with all-stars didn't make sense because he traded one all-star for another.
Click to expand...
It makes sense because he refused all other trade offers that would have brought in extra value in exchange for Simmons, and eventually accepted a deal which required him to send out extra value in addition to Simmons. Simmons being an all-star (and Morey's obsession therewith), was why Morey refused better offers before overpaying for Harden.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It makes sense because he refused all other trade offers that would have brought in extra value in exchange for Simmons, and eventually accepted a deal which required him to send out extra value in addition to Simmons. Simmons being an all-star (and Morey's obsession therewith), was why Morey refused better offers before overpaying for Harden.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I guess in the sense he didn't want to try to become the first team in decades to win a title with only one all-star. If he was super obsessed with all-stars, he would be trying to add all-stars to his roster, not swap them out.
 
Tince said:
Yeah, I guess in the sense he didn't want to try to become the first team in decades to win a title with only one all-star. If he was super obsessed with all-stars, he would be trying to add all-stars to his roster, not swap them out.
Click to expand...
Don't really have much choice when your all-star refuses to ever play for you.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Don't really have much choice when your all-star refuses to ever play for you.
Click to expand...

Their handling of their all-star is part of the reason I can't say they're obsessed with all-stars. If they were obsessed, they would've treated the one they had better in the first place.
 
Tince said:
I have to go with the Nets on this one. Though I couldn't vote in the poll because the option saying Morey was obsessed with all-stars didn't make sense because he traded one all-star for another.
Click to expand...

I think the Nets won the trade especially with Simmons being younger and them getting additional assets. That said, Morey didn't deserve an outcome even this good. That guy is just ridiculous and it bums me out the Nets bailed him out.
 
Idog1976 said:
I think the Nets won the trade especially with Simmons being younger and them getting additional assets. That said, Morey didn't deserve an outcome even this good. That guy is just ridiculous and it bums me out the Nets bailed him out.
Click to expand...
co-sign!
 
Simmons is going to be so good in Brooklyn

They got a 25 year old all world defender who can guard 5 positions and who’s also an exceptional passer
 
Why is this guy going on a media tour right now airing out stuff like this? And was that WC team us? Simmons and 2 firsts for Dame?

 
illmatic99 said:
Why is this guy going on a media tour right now airing out stuff like this? And was that WC team us? Simmons and 2 firsts for Dame?

Click to expand...


Probably RoCo. After all, two mid-firsts got him.
 
illmatic99 said:
Why is this guy going on a media tour right now airing out stuff like this? And was that WC team us? Simmons and 2 firsts for Dame?

Click to expand...

Doubt it's dame if he's saying everyone is saying you should trade the guy for 2 picks.
Although I can't picture who else it would be. Ingram?
 
RR7 said:
Doubt it's dame if he's saying everyone is saying you should trade the guy for 2 picks.
Although I can't picture who else it would be. Ingram?
Click to expand...
Christian Wood? Or Eric Gordon?
 
Given the way Philly has played since this deal, anyone's opinion changed?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Given the way Philly has played since this deal, anyone's opinion changed?
Click to expand...
My opinion was pure speculation and I thought that Harden would be a good fit on Philly. I still think that Simmons will do a fantastic job in Brooklyn. I also knew that Harden is seven years older than Simmons and not locked into his deal like Simmons is. I also knew that Seth is a good piece and two first rounders that the Nets can now use to upgrade role playing positions are very valuable.

The prediction about Harden seems to be going as I thought. No info on Simmons and until the Kyrie shit gets resolved we really won't know how valuable that trio can be. Short term it definitely looks like the Sixers made a great deal but I think in the long term it won't age so well for Morey... but hey, if they win even one chip then some people will think it's worth it, even if the Nets are contending with the pieces they got in the deal long after Harden and Embiid are playing at a high level.
 
I was correct in that I didnt think Morey he settle for for fear of Simmons losing value. I thought the opposite that just before trade deadline more teams would up get serious and he would get the type of all star player he wanted. Bingo
 
I still say the winner of this trade was the Bucks.
 
Predator said:
Nets absolutely fleeced the Sixers in this deal.
This is a step above the Clippers - Cronin deal.
But a marginal step.
If I was a Sixers fan I’d not be thrilled.
Click to expand...

Predator said:
Morey also broke the first rule of big trades.
Don’t make a trade with a legit competitor in your conference.
This is just so, so dumb on many levels by the Sixers.
Click to expand...

Predator said:
Not in my opinion, no.
1) Simmons is a better fit for Brooklyn than Harden was. Irving & Harden made no sense to me.
2) Harden is getting older, has injury issues.
3) The Nets were pigeon holed by Harden, so they virtually had no choice.
4) The sixers could’ve sent Ben anywhere and probably received better assets (in my opinion).
5) The Nets pretty much accepted the best possible deal, while I have a hard time believing the 76ers couldn’t have robbed somebody like the Kings for Halliburton.
6) Harden is gonna get paid 50 mill+ as he continues to age and faces more injury issues.
7) I think a Healthy nets team would absolutely work the 76ers. Frankly, I’m sure the betting odds improved, but I think the 76ers are less likely to win a chip now. I wouldn’t count on Harden’s hamstring making it thru the playoffs, but assuming both teams are healthy… this trade makes the Nets a lot better than it makes the sixers, in my opinion. Part of that is Simmons playing with Irving and KD makes a lot more sense than Harden ever did, if only because Simmons for all his faults, is an amazing defender.
Click to expand...


As it turns out, the Nets don’t even have to be healthy to work the Sixers.

Such an easy trade to analyze in the moment. No clue why Morey thought this was a good idea.

Harden with another disappearing act when times get tough… who would’ve saw that coming.
 
As soon as Irving can play in home games, I think the Nets have it made.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)

Featured content

Back
Top