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MarAzul, I actually agree with you about what the bible says about being gay. This is one of the main reasons why I think Christianity is a detestable way to live ones life.
 
MarAzul said:
I have not made a statement. I ask a question of what is the intent of the Gay Person. So far, I haven't see an answer. I don't think the answer has anything to do with divorce nor how benevolent GOD is in Mag's eyes.
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Asking very narrow and pointed questions is the same as making a statement. If I repeatedly ask different variations of, "why are black people so stupid?" I am making a bold statement that I am a racist.
 
Kidding, I know both Sly's parents were Black.




Couldn't have an avatar of a Black Lab?
 
GOD said:
MarAzul, I actually agree with you about what the bible says about being gay. This is one of the main reasons why I think Christianity is a detestable way to live ones life.
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Now read the Koran, that will give you some perspective. I think you can probably identify with
infidel. Some scary chit in store for that lot.
 
I don't know enough about it, but I do believe most likely that I would think the Koran just as terrible a thing to base ones life on as the bible.
 
But racist or not, you have to love Pambiche. Oh, what delicious food.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Asking very narrow and pointed questions is the same as making a statement. If I repeatedly ask different variations of, "why are black people so stupid?" I am making a bold statement that I am a racist.
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Thank you for trying to shield me. You deflected successfully as no answers came. Yes my questions were pointed, yes I perceive inconsistence and I was trying to see if anyone would shed more light.
Perhaps another day. By the way, a racist accusation is often use today, it damn near is the preferred choice.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Matthew 19:6
"Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."




Luke 16:18
"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery.
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Deuteronomy 24:1-2 Divorce and remarriage: "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife."
 
MarAzul said:
Thank you for trying to shield me. You deflected successfully as no answers came. Yes my questions were pointed, yes I perceive inconsistence and I was trying to see if anyone would shed more light.
Perhaps another day. By the way, a racist accusation is often use today, it damn near is the preferred choice.
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I wasn't calling you a racist. Only pointing out that asking questions can be used as a statement of a person's believes or intentions (and my example did take things to an extreme, lol) . I do think you're being honest in wanting to know how homosexuality fits into modern Christian doctrine.
 
MarAzul said:
I hear what you think Mags. But that does not answer for Gay person, what is their intent of insisting you and I know, they are "openly Gay" and how that coincides with their intentions toward Christianity.
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That's between them and God. Just as other sin is between them and God. Regardless, I think most the Old Testament is to prove to man that they cannot live a righteous life.

Only through Jesus are we cleansed and by his blood we are made righteous. Don't let the atheists sway the Christian belief.
 
anyone can be any religion obviously

this is silly
 
magnifier661 said:
That's between them and God. Just as other sin is between them and God. Regardless, I think most the Old Testament is to prove to man that they cannot live a righteous life.

Only through Jesus are we cleansed and by his blood we are made righteous. Don't let the atheists sway the Christian belief.
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So being openly gay is a sin? Not arguing with you, I'm just wondering if that is what you meant to say.
 
magnifier661 said:
Deuteronomy 24:1-2 Divorce and remarriage: "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife."
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You can't do that mags, use Old Testament to support your views when they match but say the Old Testament is just stories when they conflict with your views.
 
magnifier661 said:
Huh?
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Many times in the past when people bring up the more draconian parts of the old testament you claim it invalid and say New Testament is the only one that counts. But then you quote Deuteronomy from the Old Testament when it happens to agree with your point. Do you believe the Old Testament is the word of god or just the New Testament?
Should people be put o death for adultery, blasphemy, breaking the sabbath and apostasy as is promoted in the Old Testament?
 
GOD said:
Many times in the past when people bring up the more draconian parts of the old testament you claim it invalid and say New Testament is the only one that counts. But then you quote Deuteronomy from the Old Testament when it happens to agree with your point. Do you believe the Old Testament is the word of god or just the New Testament?
Should people be put o death for adultery, blasphemy, breaking the sabbath and apostasy as is promoted in the Old Testament?
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No I've always said that the Old Testament was a reference on just how hard it is to be righteous.

I was just making reference that divorce was allowed in the Old Testament. Am I wrong?
 
magnifier661 said:
No I've always said that the Old Testament was a reference on just how hard it is to be righteous.

I was just making reference that divorce was allowed in the Old Testament. Am I wrong?
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You are correct, you are just changing your stance on the old T.
 
GOD said:
You are correct, you are just changing your stance on the old T.
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No I'm not. I still believe that the Old Testament is laws that insure us that we cannot fully keep God's commandments.

I was merely responding to sly saying that the bible doesn't condone divorce. I was pointing out that it does.
 
GOD said:
You are correct, you are just changing your stance on the old T.
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But if you are now accepting the Old T, should people be put to death as the old t says for the following
Adultery
Girls lying about virginity
Being the victim of rape if someone can hear the screams
Worshiping idols
Blasphemy
Breaking the sabbath
Practicing magic
Apostasy
Being a false prophet
Cursing at parents
Striking at parents
Being a stubborn and rebellious son
Perjury
Ignoring the verdict of a judge or priest
Living in a city that did not surrender to the Israelites
And more
 
GOD said:
But if you are now accepting the Old T, should people be put to death as the old t says for the following
Adultery
Girls lying about virginity
Being the victim of rape if someone can hear the screams
Worshiping idols
Blasphemy
Breaking the sabbath
Practicing magic
Apostasy
Being a false prophet
Cursing at parents
Striking at parents
Being a stubborn and rebellious son
Perjury
Ignoring the verdict of a judge or priest
Living in a city that did not surrender to the Israelites
And more
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Dude please pay attention. I was pointing out that the bible did allow divorce; which was said didn't. What I still believe is the same; hence why I believe gay people can still be Christian. What are you arguing about?!
 
In this country, anyone (including gays) can be any religion they want. there are probably gay men in almost every church. The musical director at my brother's church is gay (I found him on Grindr) and this is not unusual. I know other church music directors who are gay. I know lots of gay Christians. I know lots of gay priests. They're not all out so the straights may not recognize them but they're there.
 
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SlyPokerDog said:
So being openly gay is a sin? Not arguing with you, I'm just wondering if that is what you meant to say.
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magnifier661 said:
Yes
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Is it the openly part that makes it a sin or the gay part? Is openly gay a sin but closeted gay not a sin or is being gay the sin?

And again, not trying to challenge you. Just trying to understand what you're saying.
 
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