Canceling Season Tickets (2 Viewers)

[Strenuus]

Calling out fans on their fandom for being upset over a Dame trade is ridiculous. You don't have to spend on season tickets to be a Blazers fan. You can be upset with how the organization is being ran and still be a fan. The biggest fans will be the most upset. Your post makes no sense.

The old saying is the most passionate fans are the ones sitting in the cheapest seats!

 

[BlazerBeav]

Yes, that will be part of the conversation. Also, directly, my part of the proposition of maintaining the season tickets was using their value to pay for future seasons(and not just by fleecing Lakers and GSW band wagoners). If the team is destroying the value, us fans shouldn't be the only ones to pay financially.

You can converse all you want - they're not giving you a dollar back.

 

[tiredhunter]

You can converse all you want - they're not giving you a dollar back.

Still going to make em spend the salary on telling me no. Repeatedly.

 

[Whyachi]

Still going to make em spend the salary on telling me no. Repeatedly.

the Kyle Lowry jerseys will be flying off the shelves

 

[Sloth]

I don't like where this team is headed, but will still be watching every fucking game this upcoming season. People can give up their tickets, burn jersey's, whatever if they want too but I don't see the point of getting that dramatic with it.

Thought Dame might stay, but he wants to go; is what it is, hope we can get something back decent for him.

 

[RonBrewer]

I don't like where this team is headed, but will still be watching every fucking game this upcoming season. People can give up their tickets, burn jersey's, whatever if they want too but I don't see the point of getting that dramatic with it.

Thought Dame might stay, but he wants to go; is what it is, hope we can get something back decent for him.

Agreed. That's the hard part. He doesn't want to be here. I don't want to hold anyone captive. Nobody :"Deserves" to win a championship. You get paid well to do a job. Up until now you have embraced and been embraced by a passionate city.

If he wants to leave, trade him. But it's not about him at this rate, it's about the Blazers. Get the absolute best deal you can get. Picks, young players, etc. FUCK Miami and their shitty deal.

If we fuck this trade up i'm gonna be pissed.

 

[blazedanugz]

Canceled mine in March

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Will be keeping mine.

Trading Lillard makes us stop straddling the fence. Build around Scoot and Sharpe. With a far more reasonable vision for competing for a championship, albeit pushed further out, makes staying a season ticket holder more likely.

 

[julius]

I root for the laundry, and the players wearing it. Once they are gone, I care about them about as much as they care about the Blazers and the fans.

 

[RPCity]

I think it’s not about the team - it’s the ownership’s
willingness to ride the coattails of a superstar and being content with mediocrity.

The Vulcans are the problem.

Bullshit.

It's not wins and losses....its about ownerships unwillingness to...uh...push for more wins!

Thats literally what you just said.

Any time the team has struggled, ownership is an easy blame.

Go back to the old OLive forums or any old message board active in the early 2000's and watch how Paul Allen was talked about.

Now it's "Paul Allen is rolling in his grave".

Paul wasn't a perfect owner.

Jody hasn't been perfect.

But to think that new ownership magically fixes things is willful ignorance. A lie we tell ourselves so we don't feel like just another bandwagon fan riding with wins and losses.

 

[PDXFonz]

I'm really not ready to be in this head space and I'm not a season ticket holder but this is going to be a lot more fun to watch than the last two seasons have been. We go in with very low expectations and fantastic young athletes we get to see grow.

Preach

 

[RPCity]

Calling out fans on their fandom for being upset over a Dame trade is ridiculous. You don't have to spend on season tickets to be a Blazers fan. You can be upset with how the organization is being ran and still be a fan. The biggest fans will be the most upset. Your post makes no sense.

No everyone can afford to buy tickets, so to a degree, that's true.

However.

It's easy to talk about how big of a fan you are. But if you're only willing to make a commitment when things are good, then what are you really a fan of?

And look. The term bandwagon has gotten a bad wrap, but if maybe it shouldn't.

No one should force you to commit to all the emotional ups and downs that is involved in sports. To commit if it brings frustration and negativity.

But acknowledge that you're a fan of the good times. You like the winning and not the lead up to it.

(You is used generally, not specifically here)

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Jody, is that you?

 

[RPCity]

Yup. Jody Allen joined the forum in 2011.

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[TBpup]

Calling out fans on their fandom for being upset over a Dame trade is ridiculous. You don't have to spend on season tickets to be a Blazers fan. You can be upset with how the organization is being ran and still be a fan. The biggest fans will be the most upset. Your post makes no sense.

I always appreciate being told what I can and can't do for something that is an opinion.

Fans can do whatever they want. I will continue to be a Blazer fan first and a fan of any particular player 2nd. Players move on, get traded, get asked out, get injured and can't play....it is never ending. Something like 137-173 in the last 4 seasons. It's not like we are losing out on some championship run that a singular player took us on.

Hope the next era has more team success....that simple.

 

[BonesJones]

I always appreciate being told what I can and can't do for something that is an opinion.

Fans can do whatever they want. I will continue to be a Blazer fan first and a fan of any particular player 2nd. Players move on, get traded, get asked out, get injured and can't play....it is never ending. Something like 137-173 in the last 4 seasons. It's not like we are losing out on some championship run that a singular player took us on.

Hope the next era has more team success....that simple.

I'm not telling you what to do, simply that what other fans do with their money doesn't dictate their fandom in the way you claim.

 

[BassPlaya]

If I could afford season tickets, only Jailblazer character would make me sell them. And if I did decide to sell them, I wouldn't even take the time to announce it here. That's just me.
My hope is that anyone feeling bad enough about the team they follow that they draw a line in the sand and say, "I'm done".....finds true peace over their decision.

 

[TBpup]

I'm not telling you what to do, simply that what other fans do with their money doesn't dictate their fandom in the way you claim.

Was responding to a specific post mentioning a specific person. Feel free to keep responding if you like.

 

[BonesJones]

Was responding to a specific post mentioning a specific person. Feel free to keep responding if you like.

Except "If someone cancels their tickets because a certain player was traded, they weren't a Blazer fan" is a blanket statement.

 

[BonesJones]

No everyone can afford to buy tickets, so to a degree, that's true.

However.

It's easy to talk about how big of a fan you are. But if you're only willing to make a commitment when things are good, then what are you really a fan of?

And look. The term bandwagon has gotten a bad wrap, but if maybe it shouldn't.

No one should force you to commit to all the emotional ups and downs that is involved in sports. To commit if it brings frustration and negativity.

But acknowledge that you're a fan of the good times. You like the winning and not the lead up to it.

(You is used generally, not specifically here)

The owner should be willing to invest in building a winning team if you're going to hold fans to the standard of investing in a losing team. There's a difference between being in rebuild mode and handling things the way this team has over the past few years.

 

[TBpup]

Except "If someone cancels their tickets because a certain player was traded, they weren't a Blazer fan" is a blanket statement.

Obviously referring to the one person in the post that is quoted, or I wouldn't have quoted that specific post referencing a single individual and would have made a general statement. But feel free to keep responding if you feel it is that big of a deal. But maybe this will help. If someone is canceling Blazer tickets (Blazer encompassing the entire team) and if they are doing so because a single player has asked to be traded, it seems they are more a fan of that one single player than they are a Blazer/Blazers fan overall.

If you enjoy the nitpicking that much, please continue picking it apart. I may have misspelled something and you can really get me then.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I know of one season ticket holder who is canceling her seats.

They squandered the franchise’s best player in history with a decade of mediocre move after mediocre move.

Cronin and the Vulcans have to earn support back. No more living on the margins.

They have Scoot and Sharpe - let’s hope they have the balls to take chances with this era.

This is not an easy decision. For me, im tenured with privileges and discounts with a pair of what I believe are two of the best seats in the 300 section. There are others as good or better but far and few between.
To give that up and have to start all over if i want to re-up down the road, is spendy and a tough ask.
Plus im for the team, not a player. Now if they dont walk out of this storm with a bright future, and Jody refuses to sell, i might be pushed over the edge. But for now, part of me is excited for our new rookies and i want to watch them play. So to just ask season ticket holders to can el because we couldn't please Dame, is not realistic.

Sorry.

I will not be buying any more merch or extras though, until i see where this has landed. I already picked up my Sharpe Jersey last year. Lol.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Lifetime fandom is like lifetime marriage. You don't just walk out when times are tough, unless all other options have been exhausted and the future holds zero potential.
In this case, i see a future with a-lot of potential and even more if Jody sells. But Jody is not my end all. The team is. And like it or not, they have a nice foundation to build a future with. Im not turning my back on that.
Sorry.

 

[TBpup]

This is not an easy decision. For me, im tenured with privileges and discounts with a pair of what I believe are two of the best seats in the 300 section. There are others as good or better but far and few between.
To give that up and have to start all over if i want to re-up down the road, is spendy and a tough ask.
Plus im for the team, not a player. Now if they dont walk out of this storm with a bright future, and Jody refuses to sell, i might be pushed over the edge. But for now, part of me is excited for our new rookies and i want to watch them play. So to just ask season ticket holders to can el because we couldn't please Dame, is not realistic.

Sorry.

I will not be buying any more merch or extras though, until i see where this has landed. I already picked up my Sharpe Jersey last year. Lol.

The Jody refusing to sell part is what is really tough. As long as she owns it, Bert is running it and that leaves a knot in my stomach.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

The Jody refusing to sell part is what is really tough. As long as she owns it, Bert is running it and that leaves a knot in my stomach.

Yeah something has to give. If they didn’t land these rookies, id likely have a darker tone.

 

[Tince]

Calling out fans on their fandom for being upset over a Dame trade is ridiculous. You don't have to spend on season tickets to be a Blazers fan. You can be upset with how the organization is being ran and still be a fan. The biggest fans will be the most upset. Your post makes no sense.

I agree except for the part about the biggest fans will be the most upset. The ability for people to regulate their emotions is unrelated to their level of fandom, in my opinion.

If people want to be really angry, that's fine. If people are bummed, but don't show it through yelling, cursing, overreacting, etc. their fandom isn't discounted either.

 

[RPCity]

The owner should be willing to invest in building a winning team if you're going to hold fans to the standard of investing in a losing team. There's a difference between being in rebuild mode and handling things the way this team has over the past few years.

Yup. Team owners have a responsibility to be engaged and not be Robert Sarver. I'll absolutely agree with that.

And maybe I'm missing it....but what is the big issue with Jody's ownership?

She didn't fire Neil early enough....she hired internally with Cronin? Ok. She doesn't give interviews or engage with the media....eh.

She's at every game. She's spending money on the arena.

She hires people and lets them do their job - she's not Jerry Jones. Neil was the wrong guy to trust and she realized that too late.

So yeah, the team ducked the tax with the Covington/Powell trades. As a non-competitive team, that's the responsible thing to do. Isn't it? If you're not going to resign Hart, you pick up additional draft capital instead of letting him walk for nothing. Isn't that good asset management?

I'm missing the issue with her other than, again, it's easy to point at ownership.

 

[Tince]

I always appreciate being told what I can and can't do for something that is an opinion.

Fans can do whatever they want. I will continue to be a Blazer fan first and a fan of any particular player 2nd. Players move on, get traded, get asked out, get injured and can't play....it is never ending. Something like 137-173 in the last 4 seasons. It's not like we are losing out on some championship run that a singular player took us on.

Hope the next era has more team success....that simple.

Very reasonable and rational.

I'm always rooting for the next player, coach, or GM to take it to a new (higher) level.

 

[Tince]

Yup. Team owners have a responsibility to be engaged and not be Robert Sarver. I'll absolutely agree with that.

And maybe I'm missing it....but what is the big issue with Jody's ownership?

She didn't fire Neil early enough....she hired internally with Cronin? Ok. She doesn't give interviews or engage with the media....eh.

She's at every game. She's spending money on the arena.

She hires people and lets them do their job - she's not Jerry Jones. Neil was the wrong guy to trust and she realized that too late.

So yeah, the team ducked the tax with the Covington/Powell trades. As a non-competitive team, that's the responsible thing to do. Isn't it? If you're not going to resign Hart, you pick up additional draft capital instead of letting him walk for nothing. Isn't that good asset management?

I'm missing the issue with her other than, again, it's easy to point at ownership.

You certainly listed some key issues. Like the Cronin stuff, some assumptions have to be made to come to a conclusion either way.

Under Paul, we spent a lot more (in relation to the rest of the league) and it appeared he had a greater interest in the draft, trades, etc. Most improtantly, Jody isn't really even the owner, she's in charge of the trust that owns the team. I would like to see someone who actually owns the team and the sale of the team isn't hanging over the franchise.

 

[BonesJones]

Yup. Team owners have a responsibility to be engaged and not be Robert Sarver. I'll absolutely agree with that.

And maybe I'm missing it....but what is the big issue with Jody's ownership?

She didn't fire Neil early enough....she hired internally with Cronin? Ok. She doesn't give interviews or engage with the media....eh.

She's at every game. She's spending money on the arena.

She hires people and lets them do their job - she's not Jerry Jones. Neil was the wrong guy to trust and she realized that too late.

So yeah, the team ducked the tax with the Covington/Powell trades. As a non-competitive team, that's the responsible thing to do. Isn't it? If you're not going to resign Hart, you pick up additional draft capital instead of letting him walk for nothing. Isn't that good asset management?

I'm missing the issue with her other than, again, it's easy to point at ownership.

The team got pennies on the dollar back for Covington and Powell because of the tax. They prioritized finances over assets with that trade, and she has not once paid the tax. The team specifically avoided any contracts that weren't expiring at last years trade deadline, and they traded Hart out because they didn't want to pay him (he opted in and didn't even get that payday people said he would). Why would they just let him walk for nothing? She didn't hire the right people in part because there wasn't even an interview process for the new general manager and they hired a yes-man who wasn't ready and didn't have the experience to try and take on the challenge that the team was in.