Canzano Reports (Hey stop laughing!) Nate being offered extension

[Nikolokolus]

John Canzano
@JohnCanzanoBFT John Canzano
Reliable Vulcan Inc source tells me they're moving to present #pdxtrailblazers coach Nate McMillan with contract extension offer. #NBA

Hmmm ...

 

[Nikolokolus]

@JohnCanzanoBFT John Canzano
Im told Blazers GM Rich Cho is the point man on the Nate McMillan re-signing plan. Vulcans feel McMillan has performed.

 

[illmatic99]

bleh. I think it would be best for all sides if we just moved our separate ways.

 

[PapaG]

If the Blazers let Nate go without offering him, they would be viewed as crazy and inept, at least in terms of respect around the NBA. Whether or not Nate decides to stay, or if the offer is for both sides to save face before parting ways, would remain to be seen.

 

[THE HCP]

Get the fuck out of here! NO available coach could have got more from this injury ridden roster over the past 3 years then Nate did. SHow some respect!

 

[Rhal]

I love McMillan but I can't stop thinking if the "grass is always greenier" when thinking of getting a new coach who would use wallace correctly (although its to early to say McMillan hasn't or won't ) and bring batum and the rest of the team back to being a great defensive team.

With that being said I do think McMillan is the best coach we could get and ill be glad to have him back next year.

 

[illmatic99]

It still remains to be seen whether he can actually take a healthy, relatively full roster anywhere. He's pulling another Dre with Gerald. Annoying shit likethat has happened way too often during his time here. (Magloire over LA, Webster over Nic, Blake over Dre, and now Nic over Gerald, etc, etc).

He can make a talent-less team into a .500+ team. That's good, but unless we plan to remain injured for the near future, I want us to go in a different direction. It's not about disrespect.

 

[THE HCP]

Please give me a list of replacements so we can analyze the options together.

 

[PapaG]

I love McMillan but I can't stop thinking if the "grass is always greenier" when thinking of getting a new coach who would use wallace correctly (although its to early to say McMillan hasn't or won't ) and bring batum and the rest of the team back to being a great defensive team.

With that being said I do think McMillan is the best coach we could get and ill be glad to have him back next year.

Wallace is a role player who was asked to be a franchise player in Charlotte. It's more about Wallace finding his role in Portland, IMO, and if he is willing to adjust to becoming a defensive and rebounding machine who scores outside of the offense.

Gerald had it his way in Charlotte for years, and the results were terrible for his team, at least by my standards.

 

[andalusian]

(Magloire over LA, Webster over Nic, Blake over Dre, and now Nic over Gerald, etc, etc).

Remember that LA was wounded to start the year and it took him a while to get in shape - I do not think the Magloire over LA was that big of a deal.

Webster over Nic also made sense given what we saw of Nic in summer league.

Blake over Dre was with the idea that Blake matched a healthy Roy better than Dre - and the idea was to provide spacing for the first unit and a leader for the bench unit. A good idea, generally, unfortunately, Blake never performed because of the pressure of having Dre behind him and Dre did not like coming of the bench. From a basketball perspective - it still made tons of sense.

It also makes sense to have shooters around LA and play in-out, I would seriously think about moving Camby to the bench (hist minutes are limited anyway) and playing Wallace at the 4 next to Nic - it's really Camby over Wallace, not Nic over Wallace, imho.

 

[RR7]

Webster over Nic

Guy misses 3 months of the season or so due to injury, and comes off the bench for 12 games. He's supposed to start him immediately upon return? When Webster was doing decent for us in that slot, getting 12 and 4, and shooting 39% from 3? Just because.....why? I didn't care for it, but Blake over Dre made sense. And at the end of last season/beginning of this season, before he turned it on, there were many on here, not just PapaG, complaining about Andre, and complaining about his fit with the roster etc. OMG! Nate tried to gear his team around his best player! How stupid! Gerald's been on the team for all of 4 games. Why not give him a chance to get acclimated to the roster and the offense and defense before flipping out about starting, and oh no, our guys are freezing him out on offense, etc. Your most talented 5 guys don't always have to be the 5 guys who start for you.

 

[RR7]

Wallace is a role player who was asked to be a franchise player in Charlotte. It's more about Wallace finding his role in Portland, IMO, and if he is willing to adjust to becoming a defensive and rebounding machine who scores outside of the offense.

Gerald had it his way in Charlotte for years, and the results were terrible for his team, at least by my standards.

Agreed. I am excited for Wallace. We need ot find ways to utilize him, just as he needs to find ways to fit in. I'm not firing my coach because of a 4 game stretch with a guy. That's dumb.

 

[handiman]

Get the fuck out of here! NO available coach could have got more from this injury ridden roster over the past 3 years then Nate did. SHow some respect!

I'd rather roll the dice on my hunch that much of the injury woes are due to Nate's way of doing things.

 

[julius]

Although I agree that Wallace's role in Portland will be significantly different then his role in Charlotte, role players who are asked to become "faces" of franchises don't tend to make all defensive teams.

 

[OneSport3]

Please give me a list of replacements so we can analyze the options together.

Mike Budenholzer. He's Gregg Popovich's right hand man.

FWIW, I never liked Nate and was always up for a change. But I've come around on Nate. He's done well with the roster he was given. The offense seems better this season with a lot more ball and player movement. I'm not sure if this is because of Roy's injury. When Roy was healthy, the iso offense was painful to watch. Now, the offense has more flow to it. I'm not sure if Nate was "pigeon-holed" with Roy as the team's star player to use the iso offense.

And for a defensive-minded coach, our defense is sub-par. I'm not sure if this is a result of philosophy or personnel, but I would lean towards the former. The constant switching on screens is ridiculous. They need to either hedge or fight through the screens. Switching leaves the defense in scramble mode and playing on their heels.

 

[THE HCP]

I'd rather roll the dice on my hunch that much of the injury woes are due to Nate's way of doing things.

Hold the fuck on.........you are now blaming our injuries to Nate's coaching style? This is the first time I have seen you post something on here.....If your previous posts were this wacked, I am sad to have missed them. Please back up this claim of yours.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

There is no way we'd find a better coach and many teams would go after Nate. We'd be fools to let him go.

I told you guys Kenny Vance was clueless when he reported that his sources say that Nate wont be back after this season.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Nate has earned an extension. I think he has done an amazing job this year. The offense has been more fluid. I think the new assistants have helped Nate tremendously. Are there times when the team has looked stagnant?...yes, but I think the team has played harder this year than prior years. I would rather put the team in the hands of Nate than who ever else might be available to coach the team.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't know how I feel anymore. When the team was on the verge of contending, I was firmly in the "fire Nate" camp, but now that the team is in a somewhat rebuilding mode, I think Nate is a good guy for that job. The only problem I see is that Nate has never been good at balancing a rotation. He's terrible at it. Ten man rotations don't work in the NBA. They never have. Someone is always pissed off. Most teams have a 9 man rotation, which they shorten to an eight man rotation in the playoffs. Our rotation is Miller, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, Camby, Wallace, Rudy, Roy, and *sigh* Collins. In the playoffs we shouldn't see much of Patty, but hey.... you never know.

 

[PapaG]

Although I agree that Wallace's role in Portland will be significantly different then his role in Charlotte, role players who are asked to become "faces" of franchises don't tend to make all defensive teams.

I didn't completely explain myself. I don't know if it was Wallace's goal to be a "franchise player" in Charlotte, and listening to his interviews since the trade, I hear nothing that tells me he is a selfish player. He was the best player on that team, and did what was needed for his team to be successful, relatively speaking. That said, he could be a monster role player if he is allowed to concentrate on defense and rebounding. Miller can find him for some cuts to get an easy bucket or two during the game. I'm thrilled with getting Wallace, and although the team needs to learn to play small, he is the type of role player that can help a team exceed expectations in the playoffs.

 

[PapaG]

I don't know how I feel anymore. When the team was on the verge of contending, I was firmly in the "fire Nate" camp, but now that the team is in a somewhat rebuilding mode, I think Nate is a good guy for that job. The only problem I see is that Nate has never been good at balancing a rotation. He's terrible at it. Ten man rotations don't work in the NBA. They never have. Someone is always pissed off. Most teams have a 9 man rotation, which they shorten to an eight man rotation in the playoffs. Our rotation is Miller, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, Camby, Wallace, Rudy, Roy, and *sigh* Collins. In the playoffs we shouldn't see much of Patty, but hey.... you never know.

Think about this, though. Nate was able to coach a team starting Blake/Roy/Batum/LMA/PrzyOden to 54-wins, with a bench of Rudy, Sergio, Bayless, and Outlaw, to 54 wins. This was with 18 PER Oden/LMA, and not beastly Oden for 21 games last year, or beastly LMA this year.

Was that team a contender, or were they just ridiculously overcoached into the 2nd-best record in the West? Outlaw, Blake, and Rudy were the 3/4/5 leading scorers on that team, and they were #1 in the NBA in offensive efficiency.

That's a hell of a coaching job, isn't it? Yet you were complaining about the coach, and even wanted the Blazers to tank last season so you would be "right" about Nate being a bad coach. I am glad that you're waffling about Nate, because look at the 2008-09 roster, and tell me what other coach gets 54 wins.

 

[STOMP]

It still remains to be seen whether he can actually take a healthy, relatively full roster anywhere. He's pulling another Dre with Gerald. Annoying shit.

I've pined for Gerald to become a Blazer as long and much as anyone on this board but think he should be coming off the bench. Nic is the better spread the court option at 3 which benefits the overall offense, Gerald is the bigger player more capable of being the 3rd wheel Big. It's not about whats best for the player, it's about whats best for the team.

Also, I don't think it matters so much who starts as who gets minutes as last I checked points count the same amount at every stage of the game. I'm for both Gerald and Nic getting about 30 minutes.

STOMP

 

[handiman]

Hold the fuck on.........you are now blaming our injuries to Nate's coaching style?

The universal truth in sports is that wear and tear injuries are due to how the athletes are being trained. This is the responsibility of the head coach and no one else.

This is the first time I have seen you post something on here.....If your previous posts were this wacked, I am sad to have missed them.

Sorry I don't post about having sex with so and so's wife to get your attention...

Please back up this claim of yours.

Yeah, like you've ever provided anything to support any of your claims. Give me a break. I said initially it's a hunch. I can't provide you much more reading comprehension help that it's an opinion.

 

[OneSport3]

The universal truth in sports is that wear and tear injuries are due to how the athletes are being trained. This is the responsibility of the head coach and no one else.

Really? So the team TRAINER has nothing to do with it?

 

[MARIS61]

It's clear now that we've seen the team get some run time without Roy that my only reservation about Nate (not wanting the team to run) was a mis-understanding on my part.

It wasn't Nate at all.

 

[oldmangrouch]

If Nate wants credit for the good things, he also needs to take responsibility for the bad....eg the many times the offense bogs down and turns into a bunch of guys standing around playing chuck-n-duck.

 

[mgb]

If true I think it's a good move. I would like to see Nate with a healthy team for a extended time and we just might get lucky next year and have a healthy team.

 

[LJ Ginger]

I would be alright with keeping Nate if he could get an offensive guru around him that would be capable of in game adjustments and running a more non predictable offense...that's my take!

 

[maxiep]

I think Nate doesn't sign the extension and moves to the L*kers next year.

 

[handiman]

Really? So the team TRAINER has nothing to do with it?

Trainer as in part of the training staff, possibly. But trainer as a general term usually has little to nothing to do with how athletes are trained unless you're talking about private, off-season conditioning.