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Blaze01 said:
Just like they saw the additions of Crawford, Felton, Wallace, Camby & Thomas as propelling them to a playoff team for nothing more than a reason to make more money off thier fans I guess? Because that roster was not going anywhere....
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It was going somewhere, right up until Felton and Crawford quit...
 
magnifier661 said:
That is a God awful deal!
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I don't think it is...Ibaka is not Aldridge, but he is only 23 and locked in for another 4 years, both Lamb & Jones are some rookies with some potential. OKC also has TOR and DAL 1st round picks to potentially add to a deal as well...POR would also have thier own pick this year and still have some cap space remaining to go after some young free agents (or use in a trade).

and OKC may be a lot more willing to make such a deal this year if they get bounced out of the playoffs before they reach the finals (a distinct possibility)...For POR they would be stockpiling young talent and building for a run a few years down the road....
 
Blaze01 said:
I don't think it is...Ibaka is not Aldridge, but he is only 23 and locked in for another 4 years, both Lamb & Jones are some rookies with some potential. OKC also has TOR and DAL 1st round picks to potentially add to a deal as well...POR would also have thier own pick this year and still have some cap space remaining to go after some young free agents (or use in a trade).

and OKC may be a lot more willing to make such a deal this year if they get bounced out of the playoffs before they reach the finals (a distinct possibility)...For POR they would be stockpiling young talent and building for a run a few years down the road....
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Westbrook, Durant and Aldridge would be an upgraded version of the Miami heat.

If we were to get all the first rounders then I would really consider it.
 
magnifier661 said:
Dude even with our lineup with the worst bench in the nba had a shot until the last 10 games to make the playoffs. You act as though that core actually had a supporting cast.

Christ!!!!
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Not a realistic shot and not with that closing schedule....
 
RR7 said:
Going all in would be trading away other pieces, I suppose, like Batum for a vet, signing older guys in free agency to try to win it all now. Those that want to keep Aldridge seem to want to see what a core of Lillard/Aldridge/Batum can do when given hopefully a good defender at C and a solid bench. We had one of the better starting lineups in the league this season when healthy. Look at a team like GS compared to us. Lillard had a comparable season to Curry. Aldridge had a comparable season to David Lee. Wes and Klay Thompson had comparable seasons. Batum had a better season than Barnes did. They had a very good bench, and we didn't have one at all.
They could have traded away David Lee, not signed Jack and Landry, maybe got cap space or a pick for Ellis, and tanked for a few more years, building around Curry and Klay "the right way". Instead, even though most write them off as a one and done team, they're in the second round of the playoffs, they're tied 1 game a piece, have home court advantage now, and really, who knows what can happen. David Lee's 30. Curry's 25. Similar age split as Lillard and Aldridge. Are they doing it wrong? Did they go "all in" on David Lee, like we would be with Aldridge? Or realize that you can win now and later, because of the talent of their PG?
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You know, it would be interesting to talk about a scenario where the Blazers pulled a Celtics and traded away all their young guys (with the exception of Lillard) for old veteran All-Stars.

Aldridge and Freeland for Dirk
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d3nsnjz

Batum and Matthews for Pierce
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=btdv353

Leonard / Claver / draft pick / Cap space for Varejao

Use the rest of our cap space to sign Iggy (roughly 10 million per year I would think)

Lillard
Iggy
Pierce
Dirk
Varejao

Sign whatever we can for our bench. That's would be a Celtics blow-em-up to win now scenario I would think.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You know, it would be interesting to talk about a scenario where the Blazers pulled a Celtics and traded away all their young guys (with the exception of Lillard) for old veteran All-Stars.

Aldridge and Freeland for Dirk
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d3nsnjz

Batum and Matthews for Pierce
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=btdv353

Leonard / Claver / draft pick / Cap space for Varejao

Use the rest of our cap space to sign Iggy (roughly 10 million per year I would think)

Lillard
Iggy
Pierce
Dirk
Varejao

Sign whatever we can for our bench. That's would be a Celtics blow-em-up to win now scenario I would think.
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Give us Phil Jackson or doc rivers and you got yourself a deal
 
BlazerWookee said:
It was going somewhere, right up until Felton and Crawford quit...
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But that was my point, where was it going? Let's say they didn't all quit on thier coach, and they made the playoffs? Towards what purpose? To make some more money for Allen? Because that team wasn't going anywhere THAT year and the outlook for each year beyond that would look worse....

I am just not a believer in building a team that can battle for that fringe of the playoffs, but go nowhere once they get there....That type of situation is ok if you are a younger team on the way up, but on a team laden with a lot of OLDER vets (like that team was), that is a waste of time...nothing but feeding Allen's ego\pocket....
 
magnifier661 said:
add a decent bench to our roster and we wouldn't even be that close. We would be fighting for #4-5
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I guess we will see next year...

You think adding a McGee\Jordan\Hawes\Gortat and a J.O'Neal and T.Allen makes this team a 4 or 5 seed? I don't think so....
 
Blaze01 said:
I am just not a believer in building a team that can battle for that fringe of the playoffs, but go nowhere once they get there....That type of situation is ok if you are a younger team on the way up, but on a team laden with a lot of OLDER vets (like that team was), that is a waste of time...nothing but feeding Allen's ego\pocket....
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But that's what we're currently doing, building towards that fringe of the playoffs as a younger team with a lot of room for improvement, and you seem to think that is a waste of time as well.
 
Blaze01 said:
I guess we will see next year...

You think adding a McGee\Jordan\Hawes\Gortat and a J.O'Neal and T.Allen makes this team a 4 or 5 seed? I don't think so....
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If hickson came off the bench.

I don't want Jordan. I hope that isn't our target. I think mcGee will surprise people on the right team.
 
Blaze01 said:
I guess we will see next year...

You think adding a McGee\Jordan\Hawes\Gortat and a J.O'Neal and T.Allen makes this team a 4 or 5 seed? I don't think so....
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I think if you added someone like Jordan or McGee, with Tony Allen this team could be a 5th seed next year. We had no bench this year. You give us a bench, and Lillard continues to progress, this team could be a 5th seed.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think if you added someone like Jordan or McGee, with Tony Allen this team could be a 5th seed next year. We had no bench this year. You give us a bench, and Lillard continues to progress, this team could be a 5th seed.
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I don't disagree with that. But I also think it's a team that would be lucky to see the 2nd round of the Playoffs. I just don't see the point in building a Playoff team that doesn't have a shot at developing into a Contender. As long as we build around a LMA-centric core we'll top out at "Denver Nuggets" - and we haven't even come close to reaching those heights.
 
blue9 said:
I don't disagree with that. But I also think it's a team that would be lucky to see the 2nd round of the Playoffs. I just don't see the point in building a Playoff team that doesn't have a shot at developing into a Contender. As long as we build around a LMA-centric core we'll top out at "Denver Nuggets" - and we haven't even come close to reaching those heights.
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See I disagree because the Denver nuggets never had a legit star. That argument could have been made if Lillard wasn't here; but now he is.
 
BrianFromWA said:
GSW traded away their 26y/o 21.9ppg leading scorer with two years left on his (reasonable) contract before he hit UFA. Granted, they didn't get back draft picks...
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They traded away a guy who basically played the same position as Curry. Ellis was redundant. Both are ball-dominant guards who need the ball in their hands.

Unless there is somebody on the Blazer roster right now who is similar to LMA, both in production and style of play, that comparison is laughable.
 
PapaG said:
They traded away a guy who basically played the same position as Curry. Ellis was redundant. Both are ball-dominant guards who need the ball in their hands.

Unless there is somebody on the Blazer roster right now who is similar to LMA, both in production and style of play, that comparison is laughable.
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Two words:

Joel.

Freeland.
 
Canzano is to the Oregonian what Mixum was to S2.
 
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