Cavs want to trade Brendon Haywood to us.

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Cleveland has such a late pick, I can't believe they'd offer only a 2nd rounder. It's a 1st rounder.

Basically we pay 2 million for a pick. I don't see us spending that much for a couple of highly protected seconds.

On the other side, Cleveland could save more than just 2 million if they are I'm tax land.

I think I would only do it for a lotto protected 1st in 2018 or better

I re-read the thread, looking for the $2 million that we lose. What is it?
 
Cleveland has such a late pick, I can't believe they'd offer only a 2nd rounder. It's a 1st rounder.



I re-read the thread, looking for the $2 million that we lose. What is it?
Whoops. My mistake. Thought it was partially guaranteed for two million. But appears it is completely non guaranteed.

In that case, I'd probably do it and accept any pick they offer, because it costs us nothing
 
The Cavs have no 1st round pick in 2016, and have their own 1st round pick every year after that.

If it's a late late 1st round pick, go for it. If it's a late late 2nd rounder, don't waste the time.
 
We basically get back the 2nd round pick we traded for Harkless which makes Moe a freebie
 
If we didn't already have a bunch of young big men I'd totally take Rakeem Christmas.
 
Speaking of Christmas..haven't seen Jesus Christ with the Clark Kent glasses post in a long time here.
 
Thanks god this was not an option: (J.R. Smith)

There are only three teams in the NBA that still have the cap space to give him a raise from last year: the Portland Trail Blazers ($16.4 million in cap space); Philadelphia 76ers ($16.3 million); and Indiana Pacers ($11.5 million). Smith said he had some “discussions” with the Blazers but they didn’t go anywhere. So if the offers came from organizations outside of Philadelphia and Indiana, they’re gone.
– via Cleveland Plain Dealer

That knucklehead around our young guys would suck.
 
Now rumor has it the Cavs want to sign Richard Jefferson...which means even less room for their draft picks.
 
Did they sign any of their picks? They can't be traded for 30 days.

Should be a good deal if we can get the value of at least a mid 2nd round pick. It allows the Cavs to pay much higher luxury tax which we get a small cut of as well.
 
Did they sign any of their picks? They can't be traded for 30 days.

Should be a good deal if we can get the value of at least a mid 2nd round pick. It allows the Cavs to pay much higher luxury tax which we get a small cut of as well.
Doing this for a second round pick would mean we are doing this to benefit the other team and we are getting a late second rounder which is worth nothing. We need something else.
 
Now rumor has it the Cavs want to sign Richard Jefferson...which means even less room for their draft picks.

Both the Cavs and Celtics could be WAY over their allotment of roster players if you add in their rookies. Boston is currently at 14 with 3 Draft picks still unsigned and Marcus Thornton still unrenounced. That's a total of 18 players so something will have to happen there.

Similarly, the Cavs have 12 players signed with the addition of Jefferson and Jones. Thompson, Dellavedova and JR Smith have yet to get deals done. The Cavs are also looking at Sasha Kaun and that still leave the aforementioned Thompson, Dellavedova, Smith, possibly Perkins, Marion and Draft picks, Osman, Christmas and Sir'Dominic Pointer unsigned. Something will have to happen there as well.

Both rosters are opportunities for the Blazers to pick up one more young piece.

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Both the Cavs and Celtics could be WAY over their allotment of roster players if you add in their rookies. Boston is currently at 14 with 3 Draft picks still unsigned and Marcus Thornton still unrenounced. That's a total of 18 players so something will have to happen there.

Similarly, the Cavs have 12 players signed with the addition of Jefferson and Jones. Thompson, Dellavedova and JR Smith have yet to get deals done. The Cavs are also looking at Sasha Kaun and that still leave the aforementioned Thompson, Dellavedova, Smith, possibly Perkins, Marion and Draft picks, Osman, Christmas and Sir'Dominic Pointer unsigned. Something will have to happen there as well.

Both rosters are opportunities for the Blazers to pick up one more young piece.

:matrix:

Marcus Thornton signed with the Rockets.

The other Marcus Thornton, one of their draft picks, signed with an Australian team.
 
Is there any update on this land mark deal or is this still a Fischer Price walkie talkie rumor?
 
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The Cavs sent center Rakeem Christmas, the No. 36 overall pick in June's draft, to the Pacers for the Los Angeles Lakers' 2019 second-round pick, which is owned by Indiana. The trade gives the Cavs roster flexibility and an asset they can use to move Haywood and create a large trade exception in the next week.

The Portland Trail Blazers and Philadelphia 76ers are the only teams with enough cap space to absorb Haywood and create a trade exception for Cleveland. The Utah Jazz are also close but would have to trade or cut several players with non-guaranteed contracts to do so.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...keem-christmas-indiana-pacers-set-larger-deal
 



Since Haywood's contract becomes guaranteed at the end of this month, the trade should happen before that point so the receiving team has time to wave him and have it not impact their CAP space.
 
The Cavs sent center Rakeem Christmas, the No. 36 overall pick in June's draft, to the Pacers for the Los Angeles Lakers' 2019 second-round pick, which is owned by Indiana. The trade gives the Cavs roster flexibility and an asset they can use to move Haywood and create a large trade exception in the next week.

Hmm...is that worth it? I mean, it's 4 years in the future, and who knows if the Lakers will still be terrible at that point.
 

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