CBS Sports: Blazers poised for fast rebuild

[Blazer4ever]

I don't see the bad mood, we've let our entire team walk for contracts worth millions and still have a 40-win team with a lot of cap-room and flexibility, we're not contenders and probably took a step back but we can see the team was destined for a change as most players at least somehow chose not to come back. We've got two major pieces in Dame and CJ and then many interesting possibilities and talents, it should be a fun year and an interesting year, we weren't going to win it all anyway.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Plus, I think what Zagger is saying is - where do we stand on bringing Kelly Olynyk?

 

[cmeese47]

Well yeah it really does bro.
1.) we still have a very good GM.
2.) we Have a coach that has taken us from lotto to playoffs.

Now if Neil leaves, then I'll jump in your "oh fuck we are fucked" bus

Olshey sucks and Stotts is no magician either. We will see what he can do with this roster but I am in the fire him for Thibs camp

 

[Pinwheel1]

I just don't understand all this love for Vonleh, he is not explosive, or aggressive, his passing is among the worst I have ever seen. He has a long reach and can make a few threes but that does not scream star in the making to me. He may as well be a younger version of Meyers Leonard.

Watch the first play of this video and tell me that he is amongst the worst passers you have ever seen.

 

[magnifier661]

Olshey sucks and Stotts is no magician either. We will see what he can do with this roster but I am in the fire him for Thibs camp

Magician? Who said he's a magician?!?! He's smart and makes good moves. We are still well over cap and more talent spread out. All for cheap manageable contracts. Sorry he didn't trade for T-Mac with Max money. We know it worked great for NY

 

[Natebishop3]

That was a nice pass. He has a soft touch from outside

 

[magnifier661]

That was a nice pass. He has a soft touch from outside

His post moves are pretty good too. He uses his body to clear space well

 

[ripcityboy]

My belief now is that Olshey will take on a Billy Beane type attitude with the team. Low-risk, high upside upside playera, then trade them for all they are worth. In fact, if I were Olshey, I would advise players to never buy a house in Portland. This team has proven it can't attract high profile free agents, so to quote a horrible local columnist, take prisoners.

 

[RoyToy]

Well yeah it really does bro.
1.) we still have a very good GM.
2.) we Have a coach that has taken us from lotto to playoffs.

Now if Neil leaves, then I'll jump in your "oh fuck we are fucked" bus

What has Neil Olshey won as a GM?

What has Terry Stotts won as a head coach?

 

[magnifier661]

What has Neil Olshey won as a GM?

What has Terry Stotts won as a head coach?

Games?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Fast rebuild?

This team has been rebuilding since June 4, 2000. One playoff series victory in 15 years.

At this point just be happy we're not the Sonics.

No, this has not been a 15-year rebuild. They are separate eras:

First 2006-11: The "Roy rebuild", resulting in a three-year playoff run, cut short by Roy's (and Oden's) injuries.

Then 2012-2015: the "Aldridge rebuild", creating a contender and consecutive 50+ win seasons, but cut short again, this time by Matthews injury, and then Aldridge's departure.

Now we have the "Dame rebuild". I'm looking forward to it. Focus your expectations for the upcoming season on development and improvement rather than wins, and you might actually be able to enjoy the process.

 

[RoyToy]

No, this has not been a 15-year rebuild. They are separate eras:

First 2006-11: The "Roy rebuild", resulting in a three-year playoff run, cut short by Roy's (and Oden's) injuries.

Then 2012-2015: the "Aldridge rebuild", creating a contender and consecutive 50+ win seasons, but cut short again, this time by Matthews injury, and then Aldridge's departure.

Now we have the "Dame rebuild". I'm looking forward to it. Focus your expectations for the upcoming season on development and improvement rather than wins, and you might actually be able to enjoy the process.

You're either close to a championship or you're not

You just listed 3 separate rebuilds in the span of 10 years........ That kind of makes my point. They've always been rebuilding and have never been close to a championship since 2000.

 

[magnifier661]

You're either close to a championship or you're not

You just listed 3 separate rebuilds in the span of 10 years........ That kind of makes my point. They've always been rebuilding and have never been close to a championship since 2000.

GS wasn't either until last season. Their rebuild was since the 80's. They must really suck as a franchise under your microscope

 

[Hobbesarable]

During this rebuild I would like to see (my wish list):

1. Pick and Roll utilizing Dame's skills, our roster's youth and athleticism
2. More fast breaks (I'm dying to see a fast breaking team like our team from the Rip City early 90's era!)
3. Top notch team defense foundation

These are some of the things I would like to see our team doing.

 

[DryHeat]

You're either close to a championship or you're not

You just listed 3 separate rebuilds in the span of 10 years........ That kind of makes my point. They've always been rebuilding and have never been close to a championship since 2000.

Part of being a fan you cheer the players you have.

The 77 Blazers were not picked to win a championship that year, but they did.

Portland was 1-3 vs the Lakers that year regular season and when they met in the WCF's Portland swept them 4 - 0

Be a fan support the team you have you never know what can happen.

 

[Schilly]

The problem with so many forums is people are fans of their own team. Therefore their players they have followed are better than other players. Also they have no clue the caliber of players on other teams. So much of the typical response this summer when players have been brought in has been "who's that?". What Neil.has done though is bring in young guys who are already regular players in the NBA with the exception of Vonleh. Vonleh has the highest ceiling though.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You're either close to a championship or you're not

You just listed 3 separate rebuilds in the span of 10 years........ That kind of makes my point. They've always been rebuilding and have never been close to a championship since 2000.

And I have a different opinion and perspective. Absent injuries to Roy and Oden, we would have been close to a championship with the first rebuild. Absent Matthews' injury, I firmly believe that we were close to a championship this year. The rebuilds were done well, but injuries derailed them.

As much as we want to believe that championships are all skill, there's a lot of luck involved too. Luck hasn't been on our side, but rather than whine about misfortune, we pick up, dust off, and go for it again. Hopefully, luck will be on our side this time. I guess we'll see.

 

[RoyToy]

GS wasn't either until last season. Their rebuild was since the 80's. They must really suck as a franchise under your microscope

Up until the last few years they were a pretty dreadful franchise, yes.

 

[RoyToy]

Part of being a fan you cheer the players you have.

The 77 Blazers were not picked to win a championship that year, but they did.

Portland was 1-3 vs the Lakers that year regular season and when they met in the WCF's Portland swept them 4 - 0

Be a fan support the team you have you never know what can happen.

Never said I wasn't a fan or wouldn't support them

But an article stating the Blazers are poised for a fast rebuild? Uh, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Blazer509]

Cory Joseph a possibility?

 

[RoyToy]

And I have a different opinion and perspective. Absent injuries to Roy and Oden, we would have been close to a championship with the first rebuild. Absent Matthews' injury, I firmly believe that we were close to a championship this year. The rebuilds were done well, but injuries derailed them.

As much as we want to believe that championships are all skill, there's a lot of luck involved too. Luck hasn't been on our side, but rather than whine about misfortune, we pick up, dust off, and go for it again. Hopefully, luck will be on our side this time. I guess we'll see.

The Blazers were in the running this year, but I firmly believe they were in the second tier of teams competing for the championship.

Yes the Blazers have put together some good rebuilds over the past 15 years, but there's really nothing to show for them and that's all that matters.

Bad luck with Roy and Oden? The injury concerns were there on draft night for both. The Blazers picked Roy (who had two knee surgeries in college) and chose wrong on Oden over Durant. Highsight is 20/20, but they made the wrong decision, and we'll never get an idea just how serious the concerns were over Oden's knees. I'm guessing it's safe to say pretty serious.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Blazers were in the running this year, but I firmly believe they were in the second tier of teams competing for the championship.

Yes the Blazers have put together some good rebuilds over the past 15 years, but there's really nothing to show for them and that's all that matters.

It's sad that your enjoyment of the franchise is so tied up in whether or not we win a title. I feel sorry for you.

 

[DryHeat]

Never said I wasn't a fan or wouldn't support them

But an article stating the Blazers are poised for a fast rebuild? Uh, I'll believe it when I see it.

Sounds like you doubt them before they have played one game. How do you determine what's a successful re-build ?
Just want them to be competitive and show improvement and I'll be cheering them on, just like the 77 squad.

Don't wait til you see it or you'll miss the best part.

 

[RoyToy]

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"

 

[RoyToy]

Sounds like you doubt them before they have played one game. How do you determine what's a successful re-build ?
Just want them to be competitive and show improvement and I'll be cheering them on, just like the 77 squad.

Don't wait til you see it or you'll miss the best part.

You're right

Every fan should be like DryHeat. He's the perfect fan.

 

[DryHeat]

You're right

Every fan should be like DryHeat. He's the perfect fan.

Lol

Only worry about what I can control.
I like what we have to build with, might not be an elite team but its our team...right?

 

[Chrionex]

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"

Needs more salt

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I can't wait to see the news guys roll out and compete. It's time for something different and it might even be some fun. We really don't know how handcuffed Dame was having to defer to Aldridge. Now we're going to find out. Remember when Drexler would get the ball and do his thing? Every single person in the arena, including the other team knew exactly what Clyde was gonna do. And as he'd gather himself to do it you could feel the air pressure in the building drop as 12,666 people sucked in their breaths. Then, as soon as he finished posterizing the opposite team, you could almost feel your ears pop when everyone released their breaths in an explosive cheer. I think we're going to see and feel that again over the years as Dame just gets better with no divas to hold him back. Let's put Aldridge in the rear view mirror and be grateful for what we have. Dame has what LA (or Drexler for that matter) will never have......heart, guts and an assassins cold blood when it's needed most. This ain't over......

 

[LizardKing]

I actually think were a sweet-shooting small forward (J-Rich!!) away from being alright. If we start Kaman and Davis and Aminu with Henderson and Dame, we could have a pretty solid defensive starting group with a decent pick and roll tandem in Kaman and Lillard if were willing to muck up the pace and rely on Dame's scoring and creativity. Then, we put in Plumlee and slide Aminu to the 4 and were off to the races. That kind of versatility can really catch teams off guard in the regular season

 

[Scalma]

There's no need for Kaman to stay. Not even for his experience. That stuff is cool when you're winning, not so much when you're rebuilding. He's trade bait. Might not happen til the deadline, but I'd be shocked if he was still here after it.