Rumor Chandler Parsons this summer?

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Sinobas said:
Portland will probably have to offer the max, or near the max to get Parsons, Horford or Derozen
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That does seem to be our lot in life. Which makes it even more important that Olshey has maneuvered our massive cap room.
 
BBert said:
That does seem to be our lot in life. Which makes it even more important that Olshey has maneuvered our massive cap room.
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Maybe signing Parsons would mean they wouldn't make a big mistake on Leonard. I don't know what kind of cash Crabbe would be offered, but I don't know that I'd pay him a starter's salary either.
 
Sinobas said:
Maybe signing Parsons would mean they wouldn't make a big mistake on Leonard. I don't know what kind of cash Crabbe would be offered, but I don't know that I'd pay him a starter's salary either.
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Crabbe has really fallen off in the last few weeks. :( It's sad.
 
Strenuus said:
Crabbe has really fallen off in the last few weeks. :( It's sad.
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Crabbe is seriously slumping on offense...I've been disappointed in him last couple of games but he does play good defense. We can't win many games with only two guys in double digit scoring..we need that off the bench to compete and most of the season he's had that spark. Aminu is a great defender but hasn't had close to a double digit game for a few games. Hopefully it's just a slump.
 
riverman said:
Crabbe is seriously slumping on offense...I've been disappointed in him last couple of games but he does play good defense. We can't win many games with only two guys in double digit scoring..we need that off the bench to compete and most of the season he's had that spark. Aminu is a great defender but hasn't had close to a double digit game for a few games. Hopefully it's just a slump.
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If Crabbe can cut down on the silly fouls (like on the Lowry 3), then he can become a great defender... right now, he's just good to average. :(
 
Strenuus said:
If Crabbe can cut down on the silly fouls (like on the Lowry 3), then he can become a great defender... right now, he's just good to average. :(
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See I think it's not so much silly fouls as aggressive defense..Crabbe gets right in their grill and some refs let you play and some don't. I like the aggression on the perimeter
 
riverman said:
See I think it's not so much silly fouls as aggressive defense..Crabbe gets right in their grill and some refs let you play and some don't. I like the aggression on the perimeter
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The play I'm talking about, though, seems to happen once a game it seems. On the closeouts, he -is- too aggressive on the closeouts. However, straight up man to man perimeter D he is fine.
 
Crabbe has always been an average defender with the potential to be pretty good.

When I pointed out that he fouled too much and people told me it was no big deal.
 
riverman said:
Crabbe is seriously slumping on offense...I've been disappointed in him last couple of games but he does play good defense. We can't win many games with only two guys in double digit scoring..we need that off the bench to compete and most of the season he's had that spark. Aminu is a great defender but hasn't had close to a double digit game for a few games. Hopefully it's just a slump.
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I'm shocked how often I look at a box score and Aminu has 2 or 4 points. I get that he does other intangibles, and plays pretty good defense, but he's kind of a liability at times, especially when he decides the dribble or drive the ball. I'd love to have Aminu coming off our bench behind a better small forward.
 
Draco said:
Yeah Bazemore would be a good addition. I wonder how much he gets paid per year; $13 million?

As much as that sounds its basically a Wes Matthews priced contract when we got him from Utah with this crazy cap.
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I'd have np payin' Bazemore ~$13 million :wink:
 
Blazers Roy said:
Parsons is garbage, who needs that overpriced Gallinari replica?
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Your definition of garbage is different than mine, I guess.

His averages have gone up every single month since he came back from injury. His averages for last month were 18, 5 boards, 2 assists. This month he's averaging 22.5, 6 boards, and 4 assists. Plus he's shooting very efficiently.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/6466/chandler-parsons

I would take him in heartbeat.
 
The Blazers will (potentially) have space to offer a max contract.

The estimated Max contracts will be:
0-6 yr NBA vet, 25% of CAP, $23,000,000
7-9 yr NBA vet, 30% of CAP, $27,600,000
10+ yr NBA vet, 35% of CAP, $32,200,000

I think the Blazers biggest need is a third scoring option, preferably from SF, PF or C.

One of the nice things about Chandler Parson's is that he's only 27 with 5 years in the NBA. He'll fall into that $23M max range. Wow, that feels like a lot of money.

Here are the unrestricted free agents in the summer of 2016 that are SF, PF or C that I'd be interested in:
(max)
- Kevin Durant SF, age 27, 28.0 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 4.7 apg
- Chandler Parsons SF, age 27, 13.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg (it hurts, but someone will pay max)
- Ryan Anderson PF, age 27, 16.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg (again, it hurts to pay max)

(75% of max)
- Hassan Whiteside C, age 26, 13.0 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 3.9 bpg (somebody will probably pay this guy max)
- Al Horford PF/C, age 29, 15.4 ppg, 7.2 rpg
- Nicolas Batum, SF, age 27, 14.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.5 apg
- Dwight Howard PF/C, age 30, 14.9 ppg, 12.0 rpg (somebody will probably pay him max too)
- Pau Gasol PF/C, age 35, 16.9 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 1.9 bpg

(value pickups)
- Kent Bazemore SG/SF, age 26, 12.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg
- Ian Mahinmi C, age 29, 8.6 ppg, 7.1 rpg

With the spike in the CAP, my guess is all the guys in my middle category will probably be getting max. Neil Olshey hasn't shown a trend of overpaying for a player, so I'm guessing everyone in that middle category is scratched off.

Most likely we end up with a few value signings this summer, then focus on getting our 3rd scoring option thru a trade.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Your definition of garbage is different than mine, I guess.

His averages have gone up every single month since he came back from injury. His averages for last month were 18, 5 boards, 2 assists. This month he's averaging 22.5, 6 boards, and 4 assists. Plus he's shooting very efficiently.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/6466/chandler-parsons

I would take him in heartbeat.
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I would take him too if there was no such thing as the cap limit.
Player like Galinari or Parsons are not legit players to build your team around, they get injured a lot and they are too pedestrian to do anything meaningful in the league.

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For that small difference we need to give this guy like 30% of our budget?
Keep in mind Parsons is the 2nd option for the Mavs while Crabbe and Aminu are like the 4th and 5th offensive options for the Blazers.
 
Blazers Roy said:
I would take him too if there was no such thing as the cap limit.
Player like Galinari or Parsons are not legit players to build your team around, they get injured a lot and they are too pedestrian to do anything meaningful in the league.

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For that small difference we need to give this guy like 30% of our budget?
Keep in mind Parsons is the 2nd option for the Mavs while Crabbe and Aminu are like the 4th and 5th offensive options for the Blazers.
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I liked your post but disagree slightly. Crabbe is our 3rd option. (Though when I play on 2K I have Vonleh averaging 12 ppg).
 
dviss1 said:
I liked your post but disagree slightly. Crabbe is our 3rd option. (Though when I play on 2K I have Vonleh averaging 12 ppg).
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In theory yes, but Plumlee touches the ball more and is doing more decisions than Crabbe who is coming off the bench.
 
dviss1 said:
Sure but he's not a scoring option.
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Yea, Crabbe is definitely our 3rd option in scoring.
When i think about who is the bigger option i think about who is holding the ball more and who is making more decisions in addition to scoring.

If i need to give an extreme example: Rondo is probably the 2nd offensive option for the Kings even though he is only the 5th scorer on the team.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Yea, Crabbe is definitely our 3rd option in scoring.
When i think about who is the bigger option i think about who is holding the ball more and who is making more decisions in addition to scoring.

If i need to give an extreme example: Rondo is probably the 2nd offensive option for the Kings even though he is only the 5th scorer on the team.
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On offense its more useful to have a player that can score the ball than one that can hold it and not score.

Crabbe has played terrible of late and Plumlee contributes in other areas; but strickly on offense Crabbe has been the more effective contributor this year.

Rondo is a great example as he holds the ball and racks up personal assists. He's one of the leagues worst starting PG's even though he ranks high in assists.
 
Crabbe has been our third option on offense?

That explains why we need a third option on offense.

I don't think the differences shown above between Parsons and Aminu and Crabbe are insignificant. Parsons would be a huge offensive team upgrade over Aminu, although Aminu probably has him beat in defense, rebounding, and durability.

If Olshey/Stotts think Crabbe is going to be that guy for us next season, they won't sell the farm for someone like Parsons. In Olshey/Stotts I trust either way.

I see Crabbe contributing more as a sixth man. We could use a better starting SF.
 
Hobbesarable said:
No, thank you.

I'd rather go with Aminu, Crabbe and Harkless.
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Harkless, like Vonleh, are certainly tantalizing prospects. I'll be surprised if they take a big enough leap to be starters on a contender as early as next season. I'm looking for the year after with them. Although I'll be happy if Harkless surprises me!
 
You see I'm a fan of the team first, not the players on the team.
 
BBert said:
Harkless, like Vonleh, are certainly tantalizing prospects. I'll be surprised if they take a big enough leap to be starters on a contender as early as next season. I'm looking for the year after with them. Although I'll be happy if Harkless surprises me!
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Our SFs (even the group as a whole) have far exceeded my expectations offensively and defensively after a huge year of player turnover.

This season is a testament to NO for bringing in the right players to build around Dame and CJ, to Stotts for implementing and changing his game plan fitting the player's talents, and to the players for buying in and competing every night!

Just imagine what they do can with another 2 to 3 years with the team largely intact. Better days are here, Blazer buddy!
 
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