Charlie Bell

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NBA teams ready to play 'Let's Make a Deal'
Marcus and Wright for Bell?
Three team trade with Golden St getting Wright and Williams, Nets get Bell, Bucks get Pietrus?

 

[Balla 15]

ghoti you better email Rod Thorn promptly! Except I don't know if he'll listen since he didn't listen to Dumpy. But who knows, maybe he'll like Charlie more than Bobby.

 

[Jizzy]

NO! Marcus? wtf, i know you hate him but lets trade magloire instead

 

[Dark Defender]

Think about this for a minute. Wright is 23, Marcus is 22 and Charlie Bell will be 30 next season.

Not saying they are better than Bell but Wright and Marcus still have a lot of room to grow and no one can deny that, they are still young.

 

[Netsfan318]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think about this for a minute. Wright is 23, Marcus is 22 and Charlie Bell will be 30 next season.

Not saying they are better than Bell but Wright and Marcus still have a lot of room to grow and no one can deny that, they are still young.</div>

I'm glad someone said it, because that to me sounds like an Isiah Thomas move, 2 cheaps for a longer contract, the player has talent but his NBA game span can decrease year after year gawd what a horrendous idea

 

[zєяσ]

I prefer trading Magloire instead. At least Marcus has some hope left.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think about this for a minute. Wright is 23, Marcus is 22 and Charlie Bell will be 30 next season.

Not saying they are better than Bell but Wright and Marcus still have a lot of room to grow and no one can deny that, they are still young.</div>
Bell is 28 and turns 29 in March, prime age. Geez... didn't think the age card would be pulled out on a 28 year old. The move is only good if you think the potential upside of Marcus and Antoine are a myth and their value is at it's highest now due to the myth still being alive, which I do. You wait to long and there is no value there. Plus Antoine is a free agent after the season.

Getting Bell for those to is the type of move you make when you want to win now. Still have plenty of youth wth Sean 21, Boone 23, Nenad 24, Boki and RJ 27. Bell can back-up the point and play SG. He's Boki insurance in the offseason too.

When healthy, a bench of Bell, Nenad, Boki, Collins, and Armstrong is really good. Has defense, scoring and 3pt shooting.

Milwaukee would not take Magloire for Bell. They want a wing with defense (Wright) and without Bell they would also need a back-up PG too (Williams).

 

[zєяσ]

Marcus for Bell? Yes, and I would even throw in Magloire or a second round pick.

Wright for Bell? Meh.....Idk. I'll get back to this because I dont know how Bell is playing this season.
Magloire for Bell(HELL ****ing YES!)

Marcus and Wright? No.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Jan 11 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marcus for Bell? Yes, and I would even throw in Magloire or a second round pick.

Wright for Bell? Meh.....Idk. I'll get back to this because I dont know how Bell is playing this season.
Magloire for Bell(HELL ****ing YES!)

Marcus and Wright? No.</div>
What if it was Marcus and Wright for Bell and a pick? Either 2nd round or a protected 1st?

 

[Dark Defender]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jan 11 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think about this for a minute. Wright is 23, Marcus is 22 and Charlie Bell will be 30 next season.

Not saying they are better than Bell but Wright and Marcus still have a lot of room to grow and no one can deny that, they are still young.</div>
Bell is 28 and turns 29 in March, prime age. Geez... didn't think the age card would be pulled out on a 28 year old. The move is only good if you think the potential upside of Marcus and Antoine are a myth and their value is at it's highest now due to the myth still being alive, which I do. You wait to long and there is no value there. Plus Antoine is a free agent after the season.

Getting Bell for those to is the type of move you make when you want to win now. Still have plenty of youth wth Sean 21, Boone 23, Nenad 24, Boki and RJ 27. Bell can back-up the point and play SG. He's Boki insurance in the offseason too.

When healthy, a bench of Bell, Nenad, Boki, Collins, and Armstrong is really good. Has defense, scoring and 3pt shooting.

Milwaukee would not take Magloire for Bell. They want a wing with defense (Wright) and without Bell they would also need a back-up PG too (Williams).
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Bell will turn 29 in two months, so next year he will be 30.

I like Bell but adding him will not result in a championship. I'm looking towards the future and Marcus is more appealing at this point then Bell.

I guess it depends on how you look at it. Some people like Marcus and some don't. Some people think this team can go past the 2nd round and some don't.

 

[Really Lost One]

You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>
That's this season. Krystkowiak's first full one as head coach. Some coaches just don't fit some players.

Don't forget he didn't want to re-sign there. He was restricted and they matched the offer. He's probably just unhappy there.

All players are a risk. However, he's proven he can be productive in the NBA while neither Marcus or Wright have, yet. Could they? Sure. I'm not adverse to keeping those two. I just like this move and think it will give a good result. And the contract is small in NBA standards. It's movable in the future.

 

[zєяσ]

However with him having a poor season, we have the advantage in the dealing, mean we dont have to sacrifice so much.

 

[herox42]

"The prime candidates to be dealt are Andre Miller, Sam Dalembert, and Rodney Carney. Miller has been on the Cavs’ radar screen, and as a mediocre defender with $10 million coming to him next season, Miller should only be a consideration if the Knicks somehow can put together some semblance of a run at the eighth playoff spot by mid-February. Fat chance; they’re already eight back in the loss column, so Miller isn’t the answer.
Dalembert is intriguing from the standpoint that Stefanski is looking to clear cap space, and his defense and shot blocking would be the ideal complement to either Zach Randolph or Eddy Curry."

- Ken Berger


How about Magloire and Wright for Samuel Dalembert. I'm not sure about the salaries. I don't have the time to check because I'm late for work. But if Stefanski's dumping then two expiring contracts should help. Dalembert is a beast. Having him inside should bring us closer to being contenders.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>

Bell has been sulking, but he has picked it up the past few games.

Remember that Steve Blake but up horrible numbers for the Bucks last year before being traded to Denver.

 

[Black Republican]

No,thanx.

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jan 11 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>

Bell has been sulking, but he has picked it up the past few games.

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while Redd has been hurt.

this trade would be terrible for SO many reasons. Complain all you want about Marcus, but the nets are NOT going to go into next season without a backup point.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 11 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jan 11 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>

Bell has been sulking, but he has picked it up the past few games.

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while Redd has been hurt.

this trade would be terrible for SO many reasons. Complain all you want about Marcus, but the nets are NOT going to go into next season without a backup point.
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That is a pretty huge assumption that Marcus is a backup (2nd string) PG.

 

[JAMES.SLIMM]

Marcus isn't going anywhere Mags and Wright are the prime trade candidates

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 11 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jan 11 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>

Bell has been sulking, but he has picked it up the past few games.

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while Redd has been hurt.

this trade would be terrible for SO many reasons. Complain all you want about Marcus, but the nets are NOT going to go into next season without a backup point.
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Bell plays the point plus you can draft a PG over the summer. Also you will have free agents like Anthony Johnson that you can sign up for a year.

After watching Wright again I know you need to make a move like this. There is a huge hole at the wing spot off the bench and Bell fills that and back-up PG. If you aren't going to do something like this you might as well blow it up.

Need this and someone that can teach the team how to shoot FREE THROWS!!

 

[ghoti]

Magloire is enough to get Bell. There's no need to even discuss Marcus Williams.

The question is if the Nets want to add a long-term contract while a rebuild looms.

On the court, he would help them immensely.

 

[Jizzy]

mags for bell would be a no brainer for thorn. wait, nvm, forgot out GM sux and still beleives in this team

 

[jtballa2o1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 11 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>mags for bell would be a no brainer for thorn. wait, nvm, forgot out GM sux and still beleives in this team</div>
Mags for Bell, DO IT!!!

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jan 11 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 11 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jan 11 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 11 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys do know Charlie Bell has been horrible this season right? He is shooting 33%, and shooting 25% on three pointers. He is only averaging 5 points per game and 3 assists. Why would you give up two young players for him? His contract doesn't run out until 2011/2012, by then he will probably be 32 or 33 years old</div>

Bell has been sulking, but he has picked it up the past few games.

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while Redd has been hurt.

this trade would be terrible for SO many reasons. Complain all you want about Marcus, but the nets are NOT going to go into next season without a backup point.
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That is a pretty huge assumption that Marcus is a backup (2nd string) PG.
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It's not even challenging to bait you.

 

[SportsTicker]

Why would the Nets take on Charlie Bell? He has played poorly and has a long contract that could hurt the team's chances of signing players they want to keep long term. There is also NO indication the Nets are interested in someone with his skillset. There is NO indication they have given up on Marcus Williams either. Thorn has said the Nets' top priority is finding a big man who can score. Villaneuva fills that bill. (Thorn didn't say anything about defense, of course) However, the Bucks would want something other than Magloire, who failed with them two years ago. They would probably want a pick, something Thorn doesn't easily give up.

The Nets have been historically reluctant to do mid-season deals unless they are salary dumps. The deals for Bernard Robinson and Boki Nachbar were both primarily salary dumps. One worked, the other didn't. The Nets have already made their salary dump this season: trading Ilic, Robinson and cash for David Wesley's buyout.

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jan 13 2008, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thorn has said the Nets' top priority is finding a big man who can score. Villaneuva fills that bill. (Thorn didn't say anything about defense, of course)</div>

Uhh, don't we have one of those rehabbing right now?

CV is a nice player, but I'm not sure what trading for him gives the Nets when we're banking on a Krstic-Boone-Williams-Collins frontcourt for the playoffs.

It seems like a more pressing need is a sharpshooting swingman who can play when Carter or RJ is sitting (you know, like Boki, only a sharpshooter), or some point guard that puts us in a better situation than we are with Marcus.

Then again, 3 months ago we were saying the same things about Boone that we're saying now about Marcus. That situation might fix itself, but it still doesn't solve the lack of outside shooting.

 

[Jizzy]

villy is like KVH. big who can hit the outside J and rebound. I would igve up a second rounder for him, Wright and Mags

 

[Joey FistPump]

Villanueva would be an excellent addition to this team...he could play the 3, 4, or even the 5 if we went with a more athletic lineup. He would work well with either Josh or Swat in the lineup and has an excellent jumpshot with tremendous range. If we could get him cheap than its a no brainer.